Re: [Talk-ht] [CrisisMappers] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions.
(Added talk-ht@osm as that might well reach some ppl involved that the other lists don't.) Having bn part of the below-mentioned #OSM IRC discussion (finally using irc after 15 years of avoiding, ayii!) Here's my 2 cents: The OSM Haiti data's v1 odbl complient edit rates for nodes and ways are 68% and 54%, respectively. v1+last edit comopliency rates are 89 and 95%, respectively. These figures r for data of the whole island and the losses in DR are _significantly_ higher. That will have a partial impact on e.g. Local OpenGeo-related economic activity, which has a direct link with local sustainable hunanitarian activities and all data activity on the Haitian side. In any case the direct impact is -- in my guesstimate -- to at least a quarter of Haiti data. And the viability of OSM will take a clear hit because of this. And that impacts humanitarian use without a doubt. Unless there's a renewed interest to help remap Haiti from the community -- or(/and) the data damage is limited in some ways. The thing is that we (in and currently actively involved with Haiti mapping) are limited in capacity to do more advanced data loss mitigation and I think also the capacity to remap is limited in a number of ways. So, having heard that some gave and got a special right to allow retaining his data in OSM for a given bbox _in the U.S._ I don't see why we wouldn't try that in Haiti as well as other humanitarian operations areas. With best regards from Haiti, -Jaakko http://osm.org/user/jaakkoh Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Larry O'Neill larryone...@gmail.com Sender: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:23:10 To: hoth...@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com; OSM Talkt...@openstreetmap.org Reply-To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Subject: [CrisisMappers] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions. Hi All, Apologies for any overlap in recipients for this - I very rarely post to mailing lists, so I am not sure how wide a net for this issue would be appropriate. There was a discussion on the #osm irc channel recently about the possibility of approaching non-agreers to the new CT about any data they may have contributed to areas where the removal of such data could have a negative effect on our humanitarian efforts. Looking for example at how much data we stand to lose in Haiti, this is something that may limit the difficulty of those that are on the ground in these places and struggling to remap. The possibility of haing a bounding box around areas such as these was mentioned - and there is aparantly a precedent for a users data within a BB being retained. Any thoughts, comments, or points? Thanks, Larry O'Neill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CrisisMappers group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. ___ Talk-ht mailing list Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht
Re: [Talk-ht] [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe
This is kick-ass great, again. Dead-simple way to create areas to follow. I love it how easy it is to create the polygons -- and get the plain txt coordinates for them. Could this polygon tool pt b integrated w OWL? Can someone give guidance on visualizing the feed content? I'm copying this to both hot talk-ht as I just yesterday talked w Nico Brian about (and pulled hair out of my head due to) following edits in defined areas and know that this will help many operations on the field. I'll send the polygons later, Mike. Thnx! And cheers from the bumpy rds of PaP, -Jaakko Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:57:59 To: openstreetmap Openstreetmapt...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe I didn't take it that way, Serge, but thank you. To be honest I didn't really think about OWL and ITOWorld when writing this. I was just looking for a minimally useful thing that handled polygons smoothly and was fast to set up. I was motivated by the potential needs of US users like Learon Dalby, who spoke at the Atlanta SOTM-US about his need for a way to see changes in Arkansas so that he could notify county GIS managers about them and make appropriate corrections to government data. Administrative boundaries are large, irregular shapes, and OWL seemed to be focused on small urban areas (correct me if I'm wrong about this). Mikel: I'm using Atom; can I just namespace GeoRSS into an Atom feed and have it work? Are bounding boxes for changesets the most useful thing, because I'm using node positions to calculate intersections. -mike. On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: I received some feedback that I was not very positive on this project. If my question came out that way, I want to publicly correct this perception. I find this code very exciting, and can see several potential uses for it already. - Serge On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: Hi, I'm experimenting with minutely diffs and I made this: http://migurski.github.com/Changepipe/ Want me to bake you a feed of fresh OSM changesets for your area? Draw a polygon and mail to me following the directions on the page! -mike. michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-ht mailing list Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht
