Strictly speaking, Rahoon and all its potential clones are within the County Borough/City of Galway and as such do not appear on official maps at all. They exist in a state of suspended animation, waiting to be woken by a kiss whenever Prince Charming (the Minister for Local Government (or whatever the current title is)) merges Galway City and County, in the same way that the townlands within Limerick and Waterford cities now once again have an official existence (see the OpenData generalised townland boundary shapefiles for examples).
Official documentation (the townland layer on the CSO's SAPMAP which gives population figures for townlands, the official OSi townland boundary shapefiles) seem to treat townlands split by post-1898 EDs (either urban districts or the newer EDs drawn in County Dublin and the cities) as single entities. On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Cormac O Murchú <c...@iol.com> wrote: > > > > > >Lugaphuill: > > >The two townlands in separate Civil Parishes were combined into one by the > > >Boundary Surveyor. > > > > >A study of the valuation books this morning shows them as separate in > 1856, > > >1883, 1914 and 1922 but combined in 1935. > > > > >A closer inspection of the annotations in the books show the effective > date > > >was 1927. > > > > I suspect that they were combined because the census in 1926 was published > then, seemingly the Boundary Surveyor ( who doubles as Chief Valuation > Officer) stopped issuing orders in 1912. > > > > Therefore I suspect ‘administrative’ rather than legal combination as > Census > 1926 was reported by ED only for the first time and Civil Parishes were > ignored for the first time. It was after local government acts in 1924 or > 1925 that strengthened county councils. > > > > >I strongly believe that townlands which enjoyed a separate but adjoining > > >existence for seventy years should be shown on OSM as such as there are a > > >wealth of records referring to each part. Similarly where we find > townlands > > >which have been absorbed into city or town limits, that they should also > be > > >added to OSM for record purposes. > > > > >I have therefore drawn the two original parts into OSM as Lugaphuill > (Drum) > > >and Lugaphuill (Ballyhean) AND left the combined one there until those who > > >decide, decide which is preferable. I have added a note to all three as > > >below > > > > >"Lugaphuill (Drum) and Lugaphuill (Ballyhean) combined by Boundary > Surveyor > > >in 1927, as per Valuation Office books." > > > > I’d be inclined to tag the 2 as townlands and the third as boundary=query ( > can’t be historic) and no admin level. > > > > Sadly there are no digital copies/databases of boundary orders and the > staff > in Abbey St told me to email the head honcho if I had further queries. > Until > we find a copy of a Boundary Order under the boundary acts (made in 1927) > we > should assume there ain’t one. When we do find them we change the tags to > reflect that. > > > > Lest anyone think that Civil Parishes have actually gone away…read this > form 1998. > > > > http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/si/427/made/en/print > > > > I have a bigger headache. Rahoon in Galway was a townland, then split into > 3 > townlands in 3 EDs when Galway USC was created in 1898 then recombined when > Galway was expanded in 1986 to take in all of Rahoon. > > > > But the ‘old’ Rahoon townland is now in 6 separate Galway City EDs since > 1986….so what to do here. 1 to 3 to either 1 or now 6 Rahoon townlands. > > > > I’ll be up the boundary suryeyor for a query on that one. :) > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
