[talk-ph] The navigation system in our brains
Hi guys, Here's an interesting article from 2009 showing how our brains help us to navigate the world and why there are people who can get so hopelessly lost. http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articles/2009.11-health-global-impositioning-systems/ I guess most of us in the list have a natural talent for spatial navigation (instead of cue-stimulus-based navigation)? :-) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes
Hi, suppose there's a node that has been created by user A with no tags on it. Suppose the node has later been moved by user B. A has not accepted the CT, while B has. Will the node have to be removed when we go to phase 5 of the license change? You could say: yes, because version 2 is clearly a derived work of version 1. You could also say: no, because the information added in version 2 (new coordinates) overwrites all information that was there from version 1, so there is nothing left to be protected. Opinions? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes
On 3 July 2011 02:15, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, suppose there's a node that has been created by user A with no tags on it. Suppose the node has later been moved by user B. A has not accepted the CT, while B has. Will the node have to be removed when we go to phase 5 of the license change? You could say: yes, because version 2 is clearly a derived work of version 1. You could also say: no, because the information added in version 2 (new coordinates) overwrites all information that was there from version 1, so there is nothing left to be protected. Opinions? I'm guessing, but I feel your simple example above would only hold true for unattached nodes. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-talk] Czech republic not in Europe?
According to this reation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/7888 Czech republic (and many more countres) is not in Europe. Or am I missing something? Jakub ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Czech republic not in Europe?
On 7/2/2011 9:00 AM, Jakub wrote: According to this reation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/7888 Czech republic (and many more countres) is not in Europe. Or am I missing something? I don't see Germany or France either! I tried to build a geospatial hierarchy out of OSM about a year ago and gave up on it because the quality of data wasn't good. I ended up using Yahoo's GeoPlanet because at least it was (sorta) consistent, even if the shapes look terrible. For instance, one problem is that there's no constraint that forces country outlines to be closed. For instance, the boundary of South Africa contained only the coastline. This kind of problem persists in OSM because OSM's quality control mechanism is feedback that come from users who are interested in maps. If you're just drawing maps, the boundaries of the countries to the north of South Africa will cause the boundary to be properly drawn. Nobody sees or cares that there's something wrong. On the other hand, if you're interested in doing spatial reasoning (Is point A inside South Africa?) the non-closed country boundary is absolutely useless. I guess the answer is somebody who wants good data in this department ought to fix it, but it's a big job, and since GeoPlanet is good enough for now, I haven't been motivated to try to do anything about it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Czech republic not in Europe?
I would be tempted to say that what you/OSM really want(s) is a European boundary relation rather than a Europe relation containing all the European country relations, which seems to fall under the Relations are not categories[1] abuse of relations. Ed [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations_are_not_categories -Original Message- From: Jakub [mailto:j...@kub.cz] Sent: 02 July 2011 14:00 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Czech republic not in Europe? According to this reation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/7888 Czech republic (and many more countres) is not in Europe. Or am I missing something? Jakub ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Czech republic not in Europe?
Hi, Jakub wrote: According to this reation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/7888 Czech republic (and many more countres) is not in Europe. Or am I missing something? Fixed that for you: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8608372 (And +1 to Ed.) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-de] highway=axis
Frederik Ramm wrote: Der Plan ist, dass man langfristig eine Bruecke nicht als Eigenschaft einer Strasse erfasst, wie wir das im Moment tun, sondern als eigenes Bauwerk. Klingt gut. Mir gehen nämlich die selbst bei fehlender baulicher Trennung zunehmend als separate highways kartierten Radwege eben wegen der Brückenproblematik langsam auf den Senkel... -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/highway-axis-tp6532661p6540415.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] was ist map2go ?
hi ! habe gerade den Link http://www.map2go.org/maps/ gefunden - kann mir einer sagen was das ist oder dahinter steckt ?? Ich finde kein Impressium und sonstigen Texte !! Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-it] Help-Installazione Josm in Ubuntu
Ciao, ogni tanto uso Ubuntu, ma non sono molto pratico e non ho ancora capito come si fanno ad installare i programmi quando sono dei file in un archivio, ad esempio Josm, che mi si apre con il gestore archivi quando lo scarico.. come faccio (anche da terminale se è più comodo) ad installarlo?? mi riuscite a dare una serie di istruzioni da seguire? Grazie in anticipo Ciao.. - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Orlandi_IT_EmiliaRomagna -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Help-Installazione-Josm-in-Ubuntu-tp6540795p6540795.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Help-Installazione Josm in Ubuntu
Il 07/02/2011 02:15 PM, Orlandi_IT_EmiliaRomagna scrisse: Ciao, ogni tanto uso Ubuntu, ma non sono molto pratico e non ho ancora capito come si fanno ad installare i programmi quando sono dei file in un archivio, ad esempio Josm, che mi si apre con il gestore archivi quando lo scarico.. come faccio (anche da terminale se è più comodo) ad installarlo?? mi riuscite a dare una serie di istruzioni da seguire? Non c'e' bisogno di installarlo (in generale). Da linea di comando: java -jar nomefilejosm http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Java_Runtime_Environment#How_to_run_a_Java_application ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Help-Installazione Josm in Ubuntu
2011/7/2 Orlandi_IT_EmiliaRomagna luca_orla...@hotmail.it: Ciao, ogni tanto uso Ubuntu, ma non sono molto pratico e non ho ancora capito come si fanno ad installare i programmi quando sono dei file in un archivio, ad esempio Josm, che mi si apre con il gestore archivi quando lo scarico.. come faccio (anche da terminale se è più comodo) ad installarlo?? mi riuscite a dare una serie di istruzioni da seguire? Grazie in anticipo Ciao.. C'è già un pacchetto per josm. Magari non è proprio l'ultimo ma va bene. E se lo installi dal gestore dei pacchetti ti installa automaticamente anche java e tutto quello che serve... Non ti so dare istruzioni precise se vuoi usare la GUI per installarlo... ma da linea di comando basta un sudo apt-get install josm Luciano - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Orlandi_IT_EmiliaRomagna -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Help-Installazione-Josm-in-Ubuntu-tp6540795p6540795.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Luciano Montanaro Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. -- Douglas Adams ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di ri-licenza dati alla Regione Veneto
Il 30/06/2011 09:47, Alessandro Pozzato ha scritto: In data domenica 22 maggio 2011 21:19:32, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto: / Uff ... // Il documento gfoss.it e' pronto solo che e' ancora in attesa di // alcune firme importanti. // potete pazientare ancora un po'? / Novità su questo fronte? E' arrivata la tanto sospirata firma? Alessandro Pozzato Non vorrei mettervi fretta ma da qualche settimana è obbligatoria l'accettazione dei nuovi CT (non si riesce più ad inserire dati se si rifiuta il passaggio di licenza, ma non avevano detto che si poteva continuare a contribuire per la mappa cc-by-sa?)... Comunque, ora, come molti altri, ho anch'io alcuni changeset sospesi nel limbo (potrò mantenerli nella mappa futura? O dovrò eliminarli? Adesso che ho dovuto accettare i nuovi CT non mi va molto a genio tenere per molto tempo quei changeset che non li rispettano - ricalco e/o import di CTR autorizzata per CC-By-SA)... ciao Paolo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Qualcuno usa OSM!!!
Il 01/07/2011 10:08, luca menini ha scritto: Avete visto? http://www.emergenzaspazzatura.it/ Software libero e OSM, una combinazione vincente ;-) Ora un rinnovato impegno a migliorare la mappa :-) Ciao. luca Ottimo! Segnalo che da alcuni giorni anche sulla Wikipedia in italiano c'è un link Mappa (in alto a desta vicino alle coordinate) che apre la mappa di OSM... ciao Paolo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di ri-licenza dati alla Regione Veneto
Novità su questo fronte? E' arrivata la tanto sospirata firma? C'e' in corso una revisione del documento per permettere queste firme importanti. Nel frattempo pero' mi sono adoperato per muovere la regione veneto, che sembra che non abbiano problemi a risolvere la questione anche perche', al momento, hanno in cantiere qualcosa. Bisogna pero' fiatare sul collo ... ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-co] Otro Parque Nacional Natural: Tatamá, que se lo pretende robar la Minería
Estimados maperos: Buenos días. ¿Qué tácticas podemos sumar a la estrategia de apoyar a las entidades que luchan por proteger el territorio y parques naturales del fenómeno corrupto en la minería [0]? El parque Tatamá está mapeado con el trazado a 2007 [1], está interesante el tema [2]. Algunas ideas para ir conversando: - Grupo de maperos enfocados en el tema ambiental; - Subir a OSM los contratos mineros tal como en La Colosa (¿donde se encuentran esos datos?); - Divulgar por redes sociales; - Alianzas con ONG defensoras del medio ambiente; - Asesoría técnica en SIG's. En Cartagena el POT mantiene en reserva los manglares; sin embargo desde las fotos bing a dic. 2009 se evidencia la deforestación del manglar y la construcción en esos terrenos [3]. Reciban un cordial saludo, Humberto Yances [0] http://www.eltiempo.com/justicia/ARTICULO-WEB-NEW_NOTA_INTERIOR-9542384.html [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=5.076lon=-76.073zoom=11layers=M [2] http://www.lasillavacia.com/historia-invitado/24792/alejop/parques-nacionales-responde-sobre-tatama-pero-hay-mas-preguntas [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=10.48647lon=-75.48516zoom=16layers=M - Mensaje reenviado Asunto: Otro Parque Nacional Natural: Tatamá, que se lo pretende robar la Minería Y como nos duele que la indolencia y la prepotencia de la Burocracia (con comerciantes de lo público y abusadores de todo el país) de Ingeominas y Ministerio de Minas, le siga haciendo daño a Colombia y a nuestro Patrimonio Natural. Para que denunciemos, Hernán Porras Gallego hernan.por...@corpoceam.org Consejero Departamental de Planeación por las Organizaciones Ambientales de Antioquia Director Corporación CEAM Consultar en http://municipiodesantuario.blogspot.com/ ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-at] GeoImage in HiRes (!)
On 01.07.11 17:23, Boris Cornet wrote: Allerdings kommen mir bei der Formulierung Zweifel, ob diese Freigabe für OSM tauglich ist: Die Nutzung für die Erzeugung von Folgeprodukten (siehe 5. oben) ist unter der Voraussetzung gestattet, dass die erzeugten Folgeprodukte der Creative Common Lizenz „Namensnennung-NichtKommerziell-Weitergabe unter gleichen Bedingungen 3.0 Österreich (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0)“, siehe http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/at/, unterliegen. Hier stehen die Nutzungsbedingungen: http://geoimage.at/geoimage/geodatendienste Und dieser Satz steht im ersten Absatz davon: Die Dienste und deren Inhalte können für folgende nicht kommerzielle Zwecke (jeweils und ausschließlich) verwendet werden: 1. Private Nutzung, 2. Forschung, 3. Bildung, 4. Schulische Nutzung / Unterricht, 5. Erzeugung von Open Data Folgeprodukten, 6. Nutzung für Vereinszwecke, 7. Nutzung innerhalb von Blaulichtorganisationen, 8. Nutzung innerhalb von Behörden, jedoch nur zur Erfüllung gesetzlicher Aufgaben und ohne Darstellung im Internet. Das können wir /nicht/ erfüllen, a) jetzt nicht, weil die Daten dzt. CC-BY-SA 2.0 veröffentlicht werden http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright b) und später mit CT/ODbL schon überhaupt nicht. Servus, Andreas ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-cz] Neznacena cyklotrasa
Ahoj, mam se nejak snazit zakreslit cyklostezku, ktera ma u Shocartu v mape cislo, ale fyzicky na trase neni jedina cedule? F. kdyz tam neni, tak jak ji chces nakreslit? Chapal bych to tak, ze fyzicky tam je cesta/silnice, je to zakresleny v mape, ale nejsou tam ukazatele ktery by oznacovaly kudy se dat. A pokud je to existujici trasa, byt bez znaceni, tak samo do mapy s ni. Fyzicky tam ta cesta je, jsou na ni stopy po cyklistech, ale jedina informace, ze se jedna o cyklostezku je v komercni mape. Cestu jsem zakreslil, ale pridavat ji do relace lcn mi prijde jako obkreslovat turistickou znacku z jine mapy. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Salut et encouragement pour Camille obligée de quitter Ecrans.fr
Les deux articles sont désormais accessibles en version intégrale sur le site internet Mais il manque les jolies images de la version papier ;-) A noter que ce numéro de Libération est une carte blanche donnée aux géographes de tous poils (comme il se doit pour un vendredi, n'est-ce pas Camille !) Le 1 juillet 2011 15:37, Romain MEHUT romain.me...@gmail.com a écrit : http://www.liberation.fr/medias/01012346513-les-geants-du-web-seduits-par-les-amateurs http://www.liberation.fr/medias/01012346512-openstreetmap-le-wiki-distribue-les-cartes Je vous conseille fortement de passer par votre maison de la presse du coin. Ces 2 articles sont un excellent support pédagogique pour sensibiliser d'autres personnes... ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Salut et encouragement pour Camille obligée de quitter Ecrans.fr
Le 02/07/2011 10:47, Ab_fab a écrit : Les deux articles sont désormais accessibles en version intégrale sur le site internet Mais il manque les jolies images de la version papier ;-) A noter que ce numéro de Libération est une carte blanche donnée aux géographes de tous poils (comme il se doit pour un vendredi, n'est-ce pas Camille !) Camille a écrit : Seul Google continue de la jouer perso. Son éditeur de cartes, Map Maker, reprend le principe d’OpenStreetMap, sauf que les internautes participants font don de leur travail à Google. Ils renoncent à tous leurs droits d’auteur et ne bénéficient même pas, en retour, d’une autorisation de réutiliser leurs données. Donne-moi ta montre et je te donnerai l'heure. -- FrViPofm ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010
On Jul 2, 2011 1:49 AM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 23:45 -0400, Josh Doe wrote: The TIGER wiki page (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TIGER) has been woefully out-of-date for quite a while now, so I've gone through and cleaned it up as best I could (I still haven't gotten a definitive answer as to whether 2005 or 2006 data was imported back in 2007/2008 by Dave Hansen). You should really ask him. Wonder where he hangs out these days. :) On March 24 I sent an inquiry to you, Vintage of TIGER import data. Must have been caught by a spam filter. My scripts had this set as their base url: http://www2.census.gov/geo/tiger/tiger2006se/ Thanks, I'll update the wiki. Josh ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New orthoimagery for NC
On 6/10/2011 5:31 PM, James Umbanhowar wrote:
The state of North Carolina has released 6 inch resolution orthoimagery for
the entire state that was taken during leaf off time in 2010. These are great
quality for all types of mapping. The information about the service is at:
http://data.nconemap.com/geoportal/catalog/search/resource/details.page?uuid={B7B32EE4-9B96-4FE5-88DF-255DA7FDA98C}
The following url works in JOSM:
http://imagery.nconemap.com/arcgis/services/2010_Orthoimagery/ImageServer/WMSServer?FORMAT=image/jpegVERSION=1.1.1SERVICE=WMSREQUEST=GetMapLayers=Orthos2010;
I finally had a look at this in JOSM. Thanks; it's good for filling in
the gaps in Bing coverage (Bing is actually newer in some places, such
as I-74 construction near Randleman).
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