Re: [talk-au] Mass Edit Proposal - South Australia's Arterial Traffic Network

On 3/3/24 23:19, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 3/3/24 09:13, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Can't be stuffed registering to add comments on that thread. Please do. That thread is now closed... 'personal attacks'. I don't think the gov data will have 'all roads' ... some of them are 'private'

Re: [talk-au] New tags for Vic State Forests

On 7/1/24 17:03, Little Maps wrote: Thanks folks, I’ll use just leisure=nature_reserve, as suggested. landuse=forest will probably only be needed for plantations now I guess. Ewen, many of the OSM State Forest boundaries in Vic are ‘guesstimate’ boundaries that were first mapped many years

Re: [talk-au] Road corridors with no road - what access?

On 11/12/23 22:55, Tom Brennan wrote: In NSW these are known as Crown Roads, or 'paper roads' (where they are not constructed). They are administered by the state government, and in theory, access is public. It can be hard to tell just by looking at parcel data whether something is a Crown

Re: [talk-au] Road corridors with no road - what access?

Some of these could be 'traveling stock routes' used in the old days to drive cattle to market. Those are administered locally and 'public access' can be dicy depending on past activities (eg littering) by 'the public'. Local land owner can be 'defensive' from past livestock theft. Use with

Re: [OSM-talk] GPX route to bus route

On 5/12/23 22:36, Frank via talk wrote: Hi all I hope you are doing fine. I would like to convert an existing GPX track into a bus route (relation) on OSM. Does anyone know how to achieve that, i.e. to create a relation for all involved ways along this very same GPX track? I would have

Re: [talk-au] emergency highway airstrips

On 17/10/23 08:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 at 22:50, Ian Steer via Talk-au wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/187347278#map=15/-31.9089/127.0839= Should it be layer=1? Err

Re: [talk-au] emergency highway airstrips

/Key:aeroway - now corrected. But I wounder how I missed it here? I'll keep the area mapping (aeroway=aerodrome) so as to indicate the cleared area On Mon, 16 Oct 2023, 20:18 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi How do we tag emergency highway airstrips, as used by the R

Re: [talk-au] Overpass question

On 12/10/23 16:14, Bob Cameron wrote: A question for an overpass expert. I am cleaning up a lot of the parking tags I have created so they follow the same rules etc. I have successfully generated a text list of nodes where I can cut/paste the co-ords into the ID editor to research/fix as

[talk-au] emergency highway airstrips

Hi How do we tag emergency highway airstrips, as used by the RFDS? I thought this was documented on the Australian tagging guidelines but I cannot see it.. I have used this as an example https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/493146070 for a rough area cleared for the wings and a turning area.

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

On 16/10/23 14:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Do we need the country, city & post code fields? No. Thanks Graeme On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 at 12:23, Yuchen Pei wrote: On Tue 2023-10-03 19:51:13 +1100, Warin wrote: > On 3/10/23 14:27, Andrew Harvey wrote: > [... 12 li

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Classifying settlements (Was Re: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size))

On 11/10/23 16:22, Andrew Davidson wrote: The first thing to keep in mind is how concentrated the AU population is. Sydney and Melbourne both have 20% of the population living in them. If we add on Brisbane we reach the 50% mark, which means the majority of people live in one of three

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

While 'removing it now' might seam like a good idea.. some map renders do not up date for 1 year. So some will still show what you are attempting to remove. And then if a solution is found those removals will simply have to be reverted where possible. Rather than removal how about retagging

Re: [talk-au] Classifying settlements (Was Re: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size))

On 6/10/23 14:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks Ian & Steve Looking at the numbers from a Qld perspective, I'd go inbetween the two samples! e.g. Hamlet <250 Village 250-1000 Town 1000-15000 City 15000< Which would produce https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1Bup It also becomes obvious that

Re: [talk-au] Classifying settlements (Was Re: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size))

On 5/10/23 14:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: So coming back to this ... I like the idea of adding "numbers" per extra facility :-) Calling each of them is worth 100, if a place has Police, Fire & Ambos, do they get +300 or just +100? & another "important" thing that I thought of - the

Re: [talk-au] Classifying settlements (Was Re: Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size))

On 3/10/23 19:41, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 2/10/23 21:53, Little Maps wrote: As I understand your message, we have and/or can get population data for a small proportion of places in Aus (probably with comprehensive data for most larger places and less data for the many smaller ones). There

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

On 3/10/23 14:27, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 23:48, Yuchen Pei wrote: On Mon 2023-10-02 21:42:01 +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: > [... 15 lines elided] > It's been a while since I worked on this, but I believe it was the > matching of existing OSM addresses to

Re: [talk-au] How to efficiently improve AU address coverage?

On 1/10/23 18:08, Yuchen Pei wrote: On 1 October 2023 12:56:20 GMT+11:00, Phil Wyatt wrote: but I also see that the VIC import is well progressed How is it well progressed, do you have a link showing the progress? From what I see it seems to be stalled. I'd take it that someone is

Re: [talk-au] Filling in blank space (Was Re: Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size)

On 1/10/23 18:25, Bob Cameron wrote: To be honest Graeme I look at key services specific to my need. Kind of like a weighted value that only applies to me. The use of a macro label hamlet, village, town are kind of too open ended. Population does roughly track with services so I tend to use

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

On 28/9/23 20:31, Michael Collinson wrote: On 28/09/2023 11:18, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 28/9/23 08:21, cleary wrote: Windorah Qld and Ivanhoe NSW are both currently shown as "town" in OSM but neither has more than rudimentary health service (if any), a hotel, small primary school and

Re: [talk-au] Tagging towns by relative importance, not just population size

On 28/9/23 17:04, Michael Collinson wrote: TL;DR: We need to get a systematic measure of population density into OSM to act as a guideline for mapping software to vary what goes at what zoom level. Off topic: On a global scale that does not work due to the population densities changing

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

On 22/9/23 16:37, Phil Wyatt wrote: Hi Folks, Personally, I believe if the managing agency requests that the tracks be removed from the map then as good corporate citizens we should do everything possible to lower the promotion of such tracks. Track managers also have a responsibility to

Re: [talk-au] Possible mechanical edit of address names

On 22/8/23 14:32, Ben Ritter wrote: Doing small targeted mechanical edits like this sounds like a good workflow to me. My recommendation would be to structure the program in two steps: 1. The first script calculates all of the changes that it wants to make, and writes it to CSV, with all of

Re: [talk-au] Possible mechanical edit of address names

HI I have jumped thegun here. Now looking at the data in JOSM. Total 3,814 individual addresses but The streets are only 221 so many of these are simply repartitions in the same street - much easier to deal with. I may simply do these manually after all. It was only the initial individual

[talk-au] Possible mechanical edit of address names

Hi I'm considering doing a mechanical edit of address names. There are over 3,000 conflicts between address names and the local road names. The mechanical edit would target capitalization of, for example, 'street' to 'Street'. Source of the conflicts comes from rendering errors which are

[talk-au] Coast line NSW Hawkesbury

Hi, The present coastline for the Hawkesbury goes from Box Head to Barrenjoey. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/557825041 This is also use to define 'Broken Bay', both relations are correct in OSM terms. I have just corrected a shared segment for this way ... so my attention was

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed bulk removal of service=driveway2

On 5/9/22 17:10, Minh Nguyen wrote: Vào lúc 09:57 2022-09-03, Tomas Straupis đã viết: 2022-09-03, št, 19:17 Mateusz Konieczny via talk rašė: as sole user of service=driveway2 declared that they are using it for all highway=service where no other service=* value fits, it can be cleanly

Re: [talk-au] Routing problem near Albany, WA

Possibly a router confusion with driving on the left... most drive on the incorrect side of the road and get confused when faced with the reverse. ?? Only thing I can see other than various offsets is the begining of the 2 lane section heading north west .. happens a little further along.

Re: [talk-au] Streams and dams

On 5/6/23 08:47, Little Maps wrote: I don’t know if there’s a “correct” method as at least 3 different methods are (or were) common in Vic, where I map. (1) continue named stream through dam, (2) continue stream through dam but with no name tag, and (3) stop stream at dam edge and start

Re: [talk-au] Dual naming in NSW

On 6/6/23 17:06, Phil Wyatt wrote: Does anyone know of examples overseas with dual naming? Wales will be full of it. :)  Example Way: Craig Cerrig Gleisiad a Fan Frynych National Nature Reserve (374428119) name= Craig Cerrig Gleisiad a Fan Frynych National Nature Reserve

Re: [talk-au] Dual naming in NSW

Naming for Ayres Rock/Uluru was discussed in talk-au on October 2019... We need to put this on the Australian tagging guidelines once some consensus is determined. Presently --- alt_name:en=Ayers Rock alt_name=Ayers Rock name:en=Uluṟu name=Uluṟu official_name:en=Uluru / Ayers

Re: [talk-au] Putting streams into OSM

On 29/5/23 08:11, Joseph Crowell via Talk-au wrote: Regular area shapes have a node limit that is quickly reached when mapping rivers/lakes. As a guide: 2,000 nodes to a way, 300 members to a relation... Islands/islelets are also not properly cut out when they are created within a water

Re: [talk-au] Putting streams into OSM

On 27/5/23 16:48, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 27 May 2023 at 16:34, Tom Brennan wrote: But while useful, the question is really whether a full stream import is worthwhile. I would say yes (if it's not too much effort required to do so?) Thanks Graeme I too would

Re: [talk-au] Putting streams into OSM

On 26/5/23 14:51, Tom Brennan wrote: DCS Base and Topo don't distinguish between perennial and non-perennial That information is available in the NSW Water Theme data eg: https://portal.spatial.nsw.gov.au/portal/home/item.html?id=7b0e959effd749c788d304a4179abf8a That data is licensed

Re: [talk-au] Murray River relation deletion?

On 22/5/23 16:09, Little Maps wrote: Hi folks, just checking to make sure I'm not missing something here... There's a large relation called 'Murray River' which covers all of Lake Hume, plus an upstream section of the Murray. This is a natural=water 'riverbank' relation, not a waterway

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 18/5/23 04:48, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: May 16, 2023, 19:22 by ajt1...@gmail.com: On 24/04/2023 16:57, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Apr 22, 2023, 14:10 by ajt1...@gmail.com: More generally, anyone with half a brain consuming OSM shop data (or

Re: [talk-au] In defense of the NSW DCS Base Map

lly survey by individual mappers. I value the DCS NSW Base Map but, if there are differences in information, it should not be presumed that the DCS Map is to be preferred. On Sat, 13 May 2023, at 4:52 PM, Warin wrote: In defense of the NSW DCS Base Map? Some have criticized the DCS Base Map .. a resp

Re: [talk-au] In defense of the NSW DCS Base Map

s the DCS sometimes not .. sometimes the other source is not clear... On Sat, 13 May 2023, at 4:52 PM, Warin wrote: In defense of the NSW DCS Base Map? Some have criticized the DCS Base Map .. a response below. “We don’t want OSM to be a copy of the DCS Base Map”? Umm OSM has capability of far

[talk-au] In defense of the NSW DCS Base Map

In defense of the NSW DCS Base Map? Some have criticized the DCS Base Map .. a response below. “We don’t want OSM to be a copy of the DCS Base Map”? Umm OSM has capability of far more than the DSC Base Map e.g. pubs, petrol stations, farm fields, vineyards etc. So it should be far more than

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 21/4/23 04:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less) For quite long time I am trying to use OSM-based products as Google Maps replacement. One of major issues are POIs (in many

Re: [talk-au] Why set coast line to nation park or, administrative boundaries?

see the OSM state boundary here https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13056696#map=13/-28.0814/153.5054 Council boundaries should be a lot closer to the coast(which ever one you chose)? On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 at 18:14, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 29/3/23 14:30, Andrew Harvey wrote:

Re: [talk-au] Why set coast line to nation park or, administrative boundaries?

On 29/3/23 14:30, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 14:05, OSM via Talk-au wrote: Since the coastline tag is also supposed to represent the high water mark then I would say that they should be snapped together (since they then represent the same feature - that is,

Re: [talk-au] Why set coast line to nation park or, administrative boundaries?

On 29/3/23 14:30, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 14:05, OSM via Talk-au wrote: Since the coastline tag is also supposed to represent the high water mark then I would say that they should be snapped together (since they then represent the same feature - that is,

Re: [talk-au] Why set coast line to nation park or administrative boundaries?

On 28/3/23 20:46, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I would advise caution with this. Government bodies will typically hold their own GIS data for park boundaries or administrative boundaries, and the GIS data they have will never fully align with the coastline. However, it is not our job to be

Re: [talk-au] Why set coast line to nation park or administrative boundaries?

On 28/3/23 22:06, Little Maps wrote: Slightly different issue… but the accuracy of governmental admin boundaries can vary a lot depending where you are in Aus. In regional NSW, allotment boundaries (and associated park, state forest and local gov boundaries) as shown on the NSW gov base map

Re: [talk-au] Why set coast line to nation park or, administrative boundaries?

On 29/3/23 14:30, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 14:05, OSM via Talk-au wrote: Since the coastline tag is also supposed to represent the high water mark then I would say that they should be snapped together (since they then represent the same feature - that is,

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

On 11/3/23 23:35, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I think an automatic fix of the problem is possible, however it would be a good idea to try and find out what the root cause of the problem is - bad software, bad imports, bad instructions? I have duplicated an entry the following way in JOSM;

Re: [talk-au] NSW Bridle Track

On 6/3/23 20:59, Mark Pulley wrote: One question I forgot to ask yesterday - what do I call the track? When I did my original survey in 2009, I called it ‘Bridle Track’. At some stage it was changed to “The Bridle Track” as that is the name used on the DCS NSW Base Map. All the road name

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

On 28/2/23 02:09, Dave F via talk wrote: On 25/02/2023 21:44, Andy Mabbett wrote: shop = watch → shop = watches This could plausibly mean watch as in "monitor" - in other words "please watch for developments". No it can't. Well, it should not in OSM terms.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

On 27/2/23 20:30, Philip Barnes wrote: On 26 February 2023 09:09:53 GMT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: shop=map -> shop=maps or maybe it would be better to change in opposite direction? it is not too late as it is a rarely used tag There are few shops selling maps t

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

On 26/2/23 20:59, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Feb 26, 2023, 10:20 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 26/2/23 06:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: shop = opał → shop = fuel Opal is also a gemstone, Australia being a leading source. It is also a fuel in Australia

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

On 26/2/23 06:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: I proposed some time ago to replace some surface values. The initial script run was recently done, after waiting for a potential feedback. Edit is documented at

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

On 26/2/23 18:19, Tom Brennan wrote: Do people have a view on the armchair mapping of tracks from Strava heatmaps? I can see a bunch of tracks in Kanangra-Boyd NP that have been mapped by an overseas mapper off Strava heatmap. They almost certainly don't exist on the ground. They are

Re: [talk-au] NSW Bridle Track

On 22/2/23 08:27, Mark Pulley wrote: On 21 Feb 2023, at 2:42 pm, Josh Marshall wrote: Australian road tagging guidelines at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads arguably override the general OSM guidelines, and they read: highway=track: "Service and

Re: [talk-au] NSW Bridal Track

nd .. t6hat can get lost of erosion .. and it is narrow with blind corners. I do know the Track fairly well from a number of trips. The diversion looks to be less of an obstruction compared to the more difficult bits, at leas until it is weathered.. On Mon, 20 Feb 2023

[talk-au] NSW Bridal Track

Hi This track is now continuous having been closed due to a rock fall and road collapse at Monaghans Bluff. Given the importance of the road and that it is not really a 'track' in the OSM sense (Roads for mostly agricultural or forestry uses) ... and that the DCS Base Map places it at

Re: [talk-au] NSW Fire Station names

On 12/2/23 21:02, cleary wrote: In principle, I agree with Warin. My problem is relying on the Base Map as an authoritative source for names when there is other information. What 'other information' that is OSM compatible for copyright? Note 'other information' can be used to find stuff

Re: [OSM-talk] replace some obviously mistaken surface values by their clear intended meaning

On 12/2/23 04:41, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: I propose to replace following surface tags by doing an automated edit: obvious typos: `surface=paving stones` → `surface=paving_stones` `surface=Paving_stones` → `surface=paving_stones` `surface=paving_stones:` → `surface=paving_stones`

Re: [talk-au] NSW Fire Station names

nformation from another source, especially survey or the operators of the facilities, then the information from the other source should prevail. On Sat, 11 Feb 2023, at 9:58 PM, Warin wrote: Hi, I came across this while separating amenity=fire_station from their building=*. The object

[talk-au] NSW Fire Station names

Hi, I came across this while separating amenity=fire_station from their building=*. The object is to map the amenity with all the name, operator, etc tags on the amenity and leave the building alone. The names on the DCS Base Map do not match some of the names on the OSM map. For Fire and

Re: [talk-au] Adoption of OSM geometry as state mapping base

On 10/2/23 12:30, Andrew Harvey wrote: Hi legal-questions, I'm forwarding this interesting question about the OSMF Terms of Use preventing anyone from obtaining OSM data for emergency services use. This is in direct conflict with the ODBL terms which contain no such restriction, and also

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

On 8/2/23 16:07, Andrew Hughes wrote: Hi Guys, Thanks for the quick responses! Andrew Harvey: traffic_sign=AU:R6-22,G9-83 seems better than traffic_sign=AU:R6-22;AU:G9-83  but I can see why you say both would be valid. Q: Let's say there is also another sign "Zombies Ahead" that doesn't

Re: [talk-au] Brisbane City Bike Racks

On 31/1/23 14:38, James via Talk-au wrote: Hi All, I'm relatively new at OSM and wanted to map the bike racks in Brisbane, of which I am a resident. A few members on the osm discord graciously pointed out the data is available at

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

On 19/1/23 14:03, john whelan wrote: Apparently you can do a lot of expensive damage by firing a rifle bullet through them as happened more than once in the US and given the situation in Europe at the moment is there a risk that something similar could happen there? Should we have a

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

On 16/12/22 09:54, Phil Wyatt wrote: Thanks folks,  a consumer of EV chargers is unlikely to be using OSM as their primary source for charging information. Its more likely to be an app or in car service. I believe the apps also give information on 'out of service' chargers ... With a

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

On 15/12/22 17:11, Ben Kelley wrote: My thoughts: I wouldn't remove the names. It's a big call to say that this thing definitely does not have a name, when someone else says it does, especially if 50% have a name. "Tesla supercharger" is not an individual name, probably a brand. And

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

On 6/12/22 06:39, Mike Thompson wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:22 AM Minh Nguyen via talk wrote: Vào lúc 09:55 2022-12-05, Zeke Farwell đã viết: > That is a good summary, though "Once the OSM available satellite imagery > does not show the feature" 1) There are other

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

I have placed what I believe is a summary of this discussion on the OSM wiki for lifecycle It reads "The following tags function is to reduce the possibility of a mapper remapping the feature from existing satellite imagery that shows the old state of the feature. Once the OSM available

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On 9/11/22 20:26, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 07:46, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. the bridge If I kn

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On 8/11/22 23:53, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 08:18, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. the bridge If I kn

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 13:48, Marc_marc wrote: Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. the bridge [...] is currently deleted https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604295549/history

Re: [talk-au] Import Telstra Payphones

On 28/10/22 09:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi Marc Have just commented on the changeset that looking on their website shows: https://www.telstra.com.au/terms-of-use#copyright, which would certainly seem to say that we can't use this info? In that case, it may be safer to revert all of

[OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

Hi, Question: If OSM is about mapping what exists today .. why have the tags that mean there is nothing left of it? demolished:*=*     Not existing anymore because of active removal  removed:*=*     Not existing anymore because of active removal (possible duplicate of demolished:*=*)

Re: [talk-au] Changing building levels elevator to description elevator shell

and bicycles * * tactile_writing:braille:lg=yes/no? I'll have a look next time .. but I think they have tactile things on the buttons too.. * Cheers - Phil *From:*Sigurjón Gísli Rúnarsson *Sent:* Monday, 24 October 2022 3:37 PM *To:* Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> *Cc:* Phil

Re: [talk-au] Changing building levels elevator to description elevator shell

On 23/10/22 21:46, Phil Wyatt wrote: Hi Warin, Both of those examples were previously build:part=elevator. Its probably worth asking why they changed them to building:levels=elevator. That seems to be a more appropriate tagging. building:part should be a 'part' of a building

[talk-au] Changing building levels elevator to description elevator shell

Hi There are ~260 of closed ways with the tag 'building:levels=elevator'. This tag should have numbers as the value not text, the number being the number of levels. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:levels. These object all are associated with railway stations around

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fire stations

On 10/10/22 10:52, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 09:27, Mark Rattigan wrote: There are also plenty of minor RFS brigades which operate out of buildings that weren't originally built to be fire stations. But how then do we tag all of those where the firies

Re: [talk-au] Next tagging clean up project

On 10/10/22 10:40, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 19:14, Phil Wyatt wrote: Should it always be the case that the ‘plot’ on which the fire station building resides is the ‘amenity’ and the ‘building’ should be separate within the plot? To me, its not 100% clear

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

preciative of the hard work you do to support OSM. I have feedback from Ewen Hill, Michael Collinson, Graeme Fitzpatrick, Ian Steer and Warin which appear to support my position. Only Ben Kelley might support Sebastian's position, he writes "In NSW by default it is not allowed (unless signp

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

On 8/10/22 09:28, Ben Kelley wrote: This very much differs by state. In NSW by default it is not allowed (unless signpost as a shared path). I assume Victoria is the same.    - Ben. Details. NSW law allows children (under a certain age) to bicycle on the footpath. Adults accompanying

Re: [talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

as there is a restriction OSM would use a conditional tagging .. not just 'bicycle=yes'.  Possibly: access=no foot=yes bicycle:conditional=yes @ (max_age=13) There is also the case that an adult can accompany a child... in NSW, possibly in other places too. No I'm not tagging what

Re: [talk-au] AFL goal post tag

Basketball courts have the capability of tagging the hoops .. but only as secondary tags on the pitch not as separate things. Possibly the 'goalposts' as tagged the same way - as secondary tags on the pitch not as separate things. If I were to use something then man_made=poll (would apply

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

G'day, Yes to contacting the Ozies on au-talk. In general I'd be careful on changing the 'old' data as some of it maybe better than the departments data, needs a judgement call. I'd think adding to it is fine - reference numbers that are missing, that kind of thing. Adding new stops should

Re: [talk-au] Adding intermittent to water south of Alice Springs.

' in Tassie that don't exist. https://www.google.com/maps/@-43.4647476,146.1809558,15z Google probably heard 'Tasmanian, water everywhere'  :) -Original Message- From: Andrew Davidson Sent: Friday, 23 September 2022 7:36 PM To: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Cc: OSM Australian Tal

[talk-au] Adding intermittent to water south of Alice Springs.

HI, I have just add the tag intermittent=yes to several water bodies south of the approach road to Ayres Rock (A4 Lasseter Hwy). Most of these were mapped some 3 years ago by the Microsoft Open Maps team. While some water is visible in various imagery there is also large reductions of

Re: [talk-au] Place name as name=Scarborough, Queensland, Australia

+ 1 for the name without state, country. Those can be found by the enclosing features, there is no need to add tags 'is_in'. Careful with populations.. they might be for the town and not the area.. would need checking? On 21/9/22 22:03, Nev wrote: Thanks Alex, that’s very helpful to me.

Re: [talk-au] "Wrong" phone numbers

I too would ignore the marketing. On 22/9/22 17:44, Phil Wyatt wrote: Personally, I would just do the 6 as the others are redundant *From:*Graeme Fitzpatrick *Sent:* Thursday, 22 September 2022 3:47 PM *To:* OSM-Au *Subject:* [talk-au] "Wrong" phone numbers Just fixing a Note, & the

Re: [OSM-talk] I need your help please

On 19/9/22 19:38, Fakhreddine Azzouni wrote: Good afternoon, I started using OSM for a tourism project. The idea is make a tour's road map with places from OSM. But some places are not on the map so I added them yesterday. I am using a WordPress Plugin to get locations From OSM. Unfortunately

Re: [talk-au] add boundary=forest tag to Qld State Forests and Timber Reserves

On 13/9/22 19:56, Little Maps wrote: On 13 Sep 2022, at 6:01 pm, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: There are some 'private' forestry areas too, at least in NSW ... these are visible as they are not native and in organized rows, so easy to identify. Heaps in W Vic too. As state govt

Re: [talk-au] add boundary=forest tag to Qld State Forests and Timber Reserves

On 12/9/22 19:34, Little Maps wrote: Nev, great initiative. I’ve been contemplating how the new boundary=forest could be used in Vic and S NSW. Rather than view it a tag to use in addition to land use=forest, I saw it as a useful replacement. By replacing landuse=forest with boundary =

Re: [talk-au] add boundary=forest tag to Qld State Forests and Timber Reserves

On 12/9/22 14:57, Nev W wrote: Hi, I want to check the boundaries of the Qld State Forests and Timber Reserves which are included in the Protected areas of Qld dataset of 2022 which we have explicit permission to use. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Sources#Queensland Both

Re: [talk-au] Should a "trail" route relation be one-way?

On 10/9/22 11:34, Ewen Hill wrote: Hi Ian,    Firstly, thank you to you and the Munda Biddi (MB) elves for providing an amazing 1000km cycling route, mainly off-road, sometimes on ball bearings, other times on sand and the rest mainly on fire trails and single track. It is an amazing asset

Re: [talk-au] Should a "trail" route relation be one-way?

On 6/9/22 11:23, stevea wrote: I forgot to say earlier, so I add here and now: on really huge routes like this — thousands of kilometers long — it makes it more manageable for humans (and OSM software like JOSM and other tools / end-use cases like renderers and routers) to break up the

Re: [talk-au] Should a "trail" route relation be one-way?

On 5/9/22 17:41, stevea wrote: On Sep 5, 2022, at 12:23 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Be careful with the automated tool .. you can end up with the route comprising some 'north bound' bits with some 'south bound bits'. I'm not sure what you mean by "the automated t

Re: [talk-au] Should a "trail" route relation be one-way?

On 5/9/22 15:52, stevea wrote: BTW, I very much recommend using JOSM as your preferred editor when editing relations, especially route relations. IMO, the route relation editor in JOSM is superior to all others. Don't forget to click the "sort relation" button as a last step in the

Re: [talk-au] Mapping surf breaks

On 25/8/22 15:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 at 11:43, Josh Marshall wrote: I tasked the kid with drawing the ideal surf map, and he’s really stuck into it… and it’s given me more to think about how the features should be drawn. Please do share when ready,

Re: [talk-au] Mapping surf breaks

On 24/8/22 20:45, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, non-Australian and non-surfer here but please remember that stuff you map in OSM must be reasonably verifiable. If you map a great surf spot which only exists when some external conditions align, then it might be hard for others to verify (they'd

Re: [talk-au] Mapping surf breaks

On 23/8/22 18:15, Josh Marshall wrote: tl;dr - I’m interested in getting more surfing-centric tagging into OSM, hopefully leading to an open surfing map. And want to check on what would be appropriate. In an analogous way to how cycling is treated, along with trail running, my own sports of

Re: [talk-au] hills hoists

On 21/8/22 19:52, Warin wrote: On 21/8/22 19:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Just having a look & an "umbrella" clothes line seems to be an inverted Hills Hoist, with the ends of the poles / lines higher than the centre. Can't think of a better choice of words though? T

Re: [talk-au] hills hoists

there to use something else. Thanks Graeme On Sat, 20 Aug 2022 at 17:58, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: HI, I recently saw the shadow of one of these while mapping and wondered how to map it. It did stand out. Turns out the Russians have a tag for it …  a

[talk-au] hills hoists

HI, I recently saw the shadow of one of these while mapping and wondered how to map it. It did stand out. Turns out the Russians have a tag for it …  amenity=clothes_dryer only some 300 uses world wide clothes_dryer=umbrella bugger all of these world wide

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