[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha
NOTE: Not for general consumption yet. Not for newbies--use the original Potlatch for that. Please report bugs to the Wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch_2 -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Date: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 9:57 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha To: t...@openstreetmap.org Hi all, (Deep breath) I'm delighted to unveil a test version of Potlatch 2, the all-new, completely rewritten version of OpenStreetMap's online editor. You can play with it at http://www.geowiki.com/ . It talks to the main OSM server and you can make real edits with it. This is a public alpha. This means it's an early version of the software and there are lots of bugs in it. Performance leaves a whole lot to be desired. It _will_ eat your memory, and it may freeze up or crash. Presets for ways don't generally have icons - either that or they're a bit sketchy. There's no documentation. It's an experimental release for people who already have experience using Potlatch and know what they're doing. It's not for newbies - yet! But here's some of the cool stuff it does: - super friendly tagging system - WYSIWYG map display with names on roads and the like - powerful editing tools like 'make right-angled', 'create parallel line' and so on - vector backgrounds so you can manually bring in .osm files, shapefiles and so on - dedicated turn restriction and route editors - really good relations support It's not just a general-purpose editor: you can use it to create your own editor with your favourite presets, icons, backgrounds and rendering. Everything is in easily configurable files, and it talks OAuth so people can log into the OSM server securely from outside. We hope that people will use it to build cycle-specific editors, public transport editors, fix unnamed roads editors... all of that. It's a foundation for people to do more cool stuff with OSM. Potlatch 2 has only been possible thanks to the contributions, in particular, of Dave Stubbs and Andy Allan. Dave has built a terrific architecture for the program in general, way beyond anything I could ever think up, and in particular for the tagging system. Andy has given it a relation editor so much more powerful than P1 ever had, niggled away at a zillion little bugs, and given the project the impetus it needed. Lots of other people have helped as well: Twain47 (Mr Nominatim) contributed some excellent icons, Matt wrote the superb quadrilateralise function, Shaun added Big Concrete Blocks et al to the presets, and loads of others have helped. I'm delighted to only be one of the cast and think it augurs really well for the future. So what now? You _will_ find a really obvious bug about five seconds into using it. I guarantee it. Please use the wiki pages to report it: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch_2 . There's three pages for filing bugs so we can prioritise which to fix first. It's all open source (obviously) in a proper language (ActionScript 3) with a real framework (Flex) and an open source compiler (Flex Open Source SDK). If you would like to get involved with coding it: \o/, woo and yay. If you'd like just to improve the presets and the stylesheets, \o/ woo and yay too - you don't need to program for that. We have a mailing list, potlatch-dev (http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/potlatch-dev) to talk about development of whatever stripe. And the stylesheet language, MapCSS, is racing on - but more of that anon. Hope you enjoy it. Look forward to the feedback. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Coastlines side question: Do we replace place=island nodes with place=island coastline ways?
Hello guys, Here's a question. Some thousands of place=island nodes were imported from the GNS database. Should we replace/delete these nodes on favor of the coastline ways? The OSM Wiki says that place=island can be applied to either a node or a way. And since I've been replacing POI nodes and amenity=* nodes with an outline (either landuse=* or building=yes) if the outline is traceable, I think that I should do the same for islands, at least for those place=island nodes that obviously correspond to a coastline way. In addition, the Good practices page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice on the OSM Wiki says One feature, one OSM-object. Thus island nodes should be replaced with island coastline ways. If the island is large, use a multipolygon relation to group the complete set of coastlines. If we agree to delete the nodes, what do we do with the GNS tags? Move them to the ways? Delete them altogether? What do you guys think? Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Announcing help.openstreetmap.org
Stack Overflow for OpenStreetMap! -- Forwarded message -- From: Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu Date: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:06 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Announcing help.openstreetmap.org To: OpenStreetMap Announce annou...@openstreetmap.org, OpenStreetMap Talk t...@openstreetmap.org I'm be pleased to be able to announce a new addition to the tools available to support the OpenStreetMap project. The new help.openstreetmap.org site is a StackOverflow style question and answer site where we can curate good answers to the questions people ask about how to both use OpenStreetMap and add to OpenStreetMap. As with StackOverflow users will earn karma which will in turn lead to earning rights to help moderate the questions and answers to ensure that the result is a useful knowledge base. I suggest that people start by reading the FAQ which explains how the site should be used and what should (and shouldn't) be there. You can find the FAQ here: http://help.openstreetmap.org/faq/ and then get started asking (and answering) questions here: http://help.openstreetmap.org/ Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Microsoft Bing Maps *might* support OSM
Is there a way to request/demand bing to allow imagery tracing? (Doesn't like MS to simply piggyback on our success, they should definitely help in expanding mapping.) On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Update on high-resolution imagery (I did a random search) so this will not be complete: 1. The original coverage of Metro Manila area (same extent as with Yahoo!) 2. Central Cavite (Naic to Silang), southeastern Laguna (San Pedro to Los Banos), mideastern Batangas (Santo Tomas to Batangas City, including Lipa), Parts of southern Rizal (Pililla and Talim Island) [this overlaps with #1] 3. Cebu City, 90% of Mactan Island, eastern Talisay, Mandaue 4. Legazpi up to Tiwi, Malilipot, Tabaco, Guinobatan, Daraga, Jovellar, down to Donsol (Sorsogon); Mayon summit is covered with clouds 5. Downtown Iloilo towards Oton and southern Mandurriao 6. Zamboanga City up to Pasonanca, and the southeastern islands 7. Cagayan de Oro 8. Downtown Puerto Princesa, *not* including Honda Bay 9. Tacloban (including San Juanico Bridge) down to Dulag (Bing has downtown Palo which Google doesn't) 10. Iligan down to the northern shore of Lake Lanao (almost all of Agno River is covered) 11. Cotabato City and nearby parts of Maguindanao and North Cotabato 12. Puerto Galera (I'm surprised!) There is NO coverage for Davao. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Bing Maps might offer an OSM layer in two weeks time (Tweet: http://twitter.com/StevenFeldman/statuses/18185112894) 2. More importantly, Bing is considering letting OSMers trace from Bing's satellite imagery (but not yet). (http://twitter.com/melaskia/status/18185271681) As of November 2007, Bing Maps only has satellite imagery in the Metro Manila area, as I blogged back then: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/posts/barasoain_from_space My blog post links to a KML file I made showing the extent of Yahoo!'s and Microsoft's satellite imagery in the Philippines: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/media/ymaps_livemaps_satellite_coverage_v1.0.kml ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Microsoft Bing Maps *might* support OSM
ArcGIS is already piggyback on OSM success. ArcGIS for iOS4 (IPhone) is using OSM. http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/06/arcgis-for-ios-release/ http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/arcgis/id379687930?mt=8 Noli On 7/11/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to request/demand bing to allow imagery tracing? (Doesn't like MS to simply piggyback on our success, they should definitely help in expanding mapping.) On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Update on high-resolution imagery (I did a random search) so this will not be complete: 1. The original coverage of Metro Manila area (same extent as with Yahoo!) 2. Central Cavite (Naic to Silang), southeastern Laguna (San Pedro to Los Banos), mideastern Batangas (Santo Tomas to Batangas City, including Lipa), Parts of southern Rizal (Pililla and Talim Island) [this overlaps with #1] 3. Cebu City, 90% of Mactan Island, eastern Talisay, Mandaue 4. Legazpi up to Tiwi, Malilipot, Tabaco, Guinobatan, Daraga, Jovellar, down to Donsol (Sorsogon); Mayon summit is covered with clouds 5. Downtown Iloilo towards Oton and southern Mandurriao 6. Zamboanga City up to Pasonanca, and the southeastern islands 7. Cagayan de Oro 8. Downtown Puerto Princesa, *not* including Honda Bay 9. Tacloban (including San Juanico Bridge) down to Dulag (Bing has downtown Palo which Google doesn't) 10. Iligan down to the northern shore of Lake Lanao (almost all of Agno River is covered) 11. Cotabato City and nearby parts of Maguindanao and North Cotabato 12. Puerto Galera (I'm surprised!) There is NO coverage for Davao. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Bing Maps might offer an OSM layer in two weeks time (Tweet: http://twitter.com/StevenFeldman/statuses/18185112894) 2. More importantly, Bing is considering letting OSMers trace from Bing's satellite imagery (but not yet). (http://twitter.com/melaskia/status/18185271681) As of November 2007, Bing Maps only has satellite imagery in the Metro Manila area, as I blogged back then: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/posts/barasoain_from_space My blog post links to a KML file I made showing the extent of Yahoo!'s and Microsoft's satellite imagery in the Philippines: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/media/ymaps_livemaps_satellite_coverage_v1.0.kml ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Microsoft Bing Maps *might* support OSM
@noli, not entirely because they provided an osm data editor. http://bit.ly/cYylVU On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote: ArcGIS is already piggyback on OSM success. ArcGIS for iOS4 (IPhone) is using OSM. http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/06/arcgis-for-ios-release/ http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/arcgis/id379687930?mt=8 Noli On 7/11/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to request/demand bing to allow imagery tracing? (Doesn't like MS to simply piggyback on our success, they should definitely help in expanding mapping.) On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Update on high-resolution imagery (I did a random search) so this will not be complete: 1. The original coverage of Metro Manila area (same extent as with Yahoo!) 2. Central Cavite (Naic to Silang), southeastern Laguna (San Pedro to Los Banos), mideastern Batangas (Santo Tomas to Batangas City, including Lipa), Parts of southern Rizal (Pililla and Talim Island) [this overlaps with #1] 3. Cebu City, 90% of Mactan Island, eastern Talisay, Mandaue 4. Legazpi up to Tiwi, Malilipot, Tabaco, Guinobatan, Daraga, Jovellar, down to Donsol (Sorsogon); Mayon summit is covered with clouds 5. Downtown Iloilo towards Oton and southern Mandurriao 6. Zamboanga City up to Pasonanca, and the southeastern islands 7. Cagayan de Oro 8. Downtown Puerto Princesa, *not* including Honda Bay 9. Tacloban (including San Juanico Bridge) down to Dulag (Bing has downtown Palo which Google doesn't) 10. Iligan down to the northern shore of Lake Lanao (almost all of Agno River is covered) 11. Cotabato City and nearby parts of Maguindanao and North Cotabato 12. Puerto Galera (I'm surprised!) There is NO coverage for Davao. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Bing Maps might offer an OSM layer in two weeks time (Tweet: http://twitter.com/StevenFeldman/statuses/18185112894) 2. More importantly, Bing is considering letting OSMers trace from Bing's satellite imagery (but not yet). (http://twitter.com/melaskia/status/18185271681) As of November 2007, Bing Maps only has satellite imagery in the Metro Manila area, as I blogged back then: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/posts/barasoain_from_space My blog post links to a KML file I made showing the extent of Yahoo!'s and Microsoft's satellite imagery in the Philippines: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/media/ymaps_livemaps_satellite_coverage_v1.0.kml ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Microsoft Bing Maps *might* support OSM
maning, thanks for the link. Hope corporate and government employees can contribute to OSM mapping using this ArcGIS 10 add-in, not mention Iphone users. Noli On 7/11/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @noli, not entirely because they provided an osm data editor. http://bit.ly/cYylVU On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote: ArcGIS is already piggyback on OSM success. ArcGIS for iOS4 (IPhone) is using OSM. http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/2010/07/06/arcgis-for-ios-release/ http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/arcgis/id379687930?mt=8 Noli On 7/11/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to request/demand bing to allow imagery tracing? (Doesn't like MS to simply piggyback on our success, they should definitely help in expanding mapping.) On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Update on high-resolution imagery (I did a random search) so this will not be complete: 1. The original coverage of Metro Manila area (same extent as with Yahoo!) 2. Central Cavite (Naic to Silang), southeastern Laguna (San Pedro to Los Banos), mideastern Batangas (Santo Tomas to Batangas City, including Lipa), Parts of southern Rizal (Pililla and Talim Island) [this overlaps with #1] 3. Cebu City, 90% of Mactan Island, eastern Talisay, Mandaue 4. Legazpi up to Tiwi, Malilipot, Tabaco, Guinobatan, Daraga, Jovellar, down to Donsol (Sorsogon); Mayon summit is covered with clouds 5. Downtown Iloilo towards Oton and southern Mandurriao 6. Zamboanga City up to Pasonanca, and the southeastern islands 7. Cagayan de Oro 8. Downtown Puerto Princesa, *not* including Honda Bay 9. Tacloban (including San Juanico Bridge) down to Dulag (Bing has downtown Palo which Google doesn't) 10. Iligan down to the northern shore of Lake Lanao (almost all of Agno River is covered) 11. Cotabato City and nearby parts of Maguindanao and North Cotabato 12. Puerto Galera (I'm surprised!) There is NO coverage for Davao. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Bing Maps might offer an OSM layer in two weeks time (Tweet: http://twitter.com/StevenFeldman/statuses/18185112894) 2. More importantly, Bing is considering letting OSMers trace from Bing's satellite imagery (but not yet). (http://twitter.com/melaskia/status/18185271681) As of November 2007, Bing Maps only has satellite imagery in the Metro Manila area, as I blogged back then: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/posts/barasoain_from_space My blog post links to a KML file I made showing the extent of Yahoo!'s and Microsoft's satellite imagery in the Philippines: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/media/ymaps_livemaps_satellite_coverage_v1.0.kml ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
