Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-02-10 Thread maning sambale
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:
 Good to see everyone there as well, and put faces to email addresses!

 maning sambale wrote, On Monday, February 09, 2009 11:17 AM:
 On forming an organization:
 We had a previous mail discussion on should we have a formal
 organization representing OSM Philippines so this was a main
 discussion point in Grappas.  Basically two points were raised:

 1. There is a need to create a legal personality for OSM Philippines

 One other alternate approach we discussed was to use the main London OSM body 
 as a representative. Its unclear exactly how this would work though. Time 
 zones would undoubtedly be tricky but it might be good as a stopgap.

@ Mike Collinson - is this possible?  Or any updates on the local chapter plans?
To all - please have a look at Andre's email:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-February/000446.html

 As far as extending the coverage of OSM in the Philippines, we discussed a 
 number of ideas. To me, (ok, this is my biased opinion) the most powerful way 
 of expanding coverage would be to use Naga as an example and tout that around 
 other municipalities.
Yeah that should be a good sales pitch.

 Here's the sales pitch as I conceived it:
 The data already exists, but is incomplete. By releasing it to OpenStreetmap 
 they can get it incorporated into OSM at no cost to themselves (probably) and 
 with no effort. Once its in there, the data will be fixed by the general 
 public, and it can then be re-downloaded and used by the municipality. Its 
 effectively a free way of cleaning up their data, and putting their city on 
 the map.
Sounds good.

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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
It was really great meeting everyone last Saturday. Maning essentially gave
a good and comprehensive report.

A few other points:

A mapping party was mentioned. Somewhere accessible from Metro Manila (where
most people are) and that is not covered by Yahoo's aerial imagery is a good
place. I suggested Tagaytay. Sta. Rosa might also be good.

The interest of real estate people in OSM is based on using the data/map as
a base map for providing vicinity information for property listings. OSM is
not meant for doing cadastral surveys so that's not what they are after. I
think the idea is to have real estate listings like what U.S. realtors do
with street maps of the U.S. in Google Maps.

Yellowasp.com was mentioned as having a supposedly good Flash-based map of
Makati. I checked it out and I'm not too impressed. It's IS usable for
finding buildings in the Makati CBD though.

Jim gave a short account of his mapping Malapascua Island in Cebu.

The government needs to get its act together in providing an up-to-date and
integrated geographical information of the Philippines, especially
concerning the problem of real estate appraisal (where the local appraisal
often conflicts with the national appraisal). The Philippine Standard
Geographic Code of the National Statistical Coordination Board was
mentioned, but it not enough.

That's some of the other points I remember. Maybe somebody can fill in more
details.


~ Eugene / seav


On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:17 AM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Some report on the meet-up last Saturday (20090207) at Grappas in
 Greenbelt 3.

 7 people attended the meet-up ( a geospatial researcher, a computer
 hardware engineer, an IT/real property consultant, an IT security
 consultant and his relation, a travel site/webcam/python hacker, and a
 java programmer ). Mostly geeky (not the looks) but all are free map
 lover.

 The pizza was good and the micro-brewed beer was excellent.

 On the way to Makati, I turned-on my GPS to test my new update of
 Openstreetmap data for Garmin. The data for EDSA is quite good for my
 GPS, I did found a few bugs (missing flyover).  Just in front of
 Grappas is the PowerMac center so I opened openstreetbugs and reported
 the missing flyover I passed by ;).

 The transcript below some of the things discussed (please fill in
 missing things):

 On forming an organization:
 We had a previous mail discussion on should we have a formal
 organization representing OSM Philippines so this was a main
 discussion point in Grappas.  Basically two points were raised:

 1. There is a need to create a legal personality for OSM Philippines
 to be able to represent the group to various institutions and to be
 able to access funding support if needed.  There are a 3 options to
 choose from: as a foundation, as a non-profit or as an NGO.  The
 minimum requirements would be a SEC registration and an annual
 reporting. The pros for this is, we as a group can engage in formal
 tie-ups, sponsorships and project grants.  If we can access such
 opportunities, we can greatly expand OSM Philippines advocacy.

 2. Do we need one already (as in ngayon na)? Creating a formal org
 needs a lot of work specifically paper work. Is there anybody here
 committed to take on such task?  Many of us would rather just do
 mapping (fun) than do organizing and coordinating (not so fun, but
 maybe fun to others).  Judging by the
 number of people in the meet-up, we guess just not yet.

 But the prospect of having an org is a good proposition and we are leaving
 the
 options open.  We hope someone can take on the challenge and help us.
 As matter of urgency, one of us shared an incident where a local
 volunteer group just doesn't see a need to formally organize and yet
 after six months, they need a formal org to attend and represent the
 group to some event.

 On the the GPStoGO program:
 I brought the GPS units with me to show to the group.  Many thanks to
 those who pitched in and share the load to cover the custom duties.
 Currently, 3 units are with me.  One is with Michael Cole.  Anybody
 can request a reservation via this mailinglist and the wikipage:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/GPStogo_program

 Possible collaboration with the realtors and property
 brokers/appraisers:
 One attendee is a member of a federation or real property
 appraisers/brokers (can't remember the exact name of the
 federation).  He raised the problem with geographic data of Phil. real
 properties and sees an oppurtunity to collaborate with OSM.  I see
 this as a good opportunity for the group and perhaps we coud think of
 ways we can help them.  No specifics for now, but I hope we can discuss
 them here.


 On helping new mappers:
 A concern was raised on how we can help new mappers.  I am seeing a
 lot of contributors lately and we should make it a point to help
 newbies.  An important lesson was while some of the little things  maybe
 obvious to seasoned 

Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-02-06 Thread maning sambale
See y'all bukas.  I will be bringing the GPS2go units and maybe we can
talk about who gets them.  Don't forget to bring your mapping gears to
show-off to others.  hehe


On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:55 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Alright, thanks!  Don't know much of Makati area.  But I can navigate
 my way.  I just hope I can bike ;)

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, I agree that it is overkill to mark each and every store/shop/resto
 inside a multistorey mall in OSM. I guess that's the job for something like
 OpenFloorPlans or OpenYellowPages. :-)

 Anyway, I'll trust you on the having the place to ourselves bit. :-)


 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:

 maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, February 04, 2009 04:24 PM:
  where exactly is grappa's here:
 
  http://openstreetmap.com/?lat=14.55261lon=121.02281zoom=17layers=B000FTF

 Its in Greenbelt 3, or III as its written on OSM. I guess this brings up a
 point about mapping protocol .. I've never felt that its necessary to
 subdivide malls into the many many shops and restaurants inside, and in fact
 I fear it would be messy to try. So anyway, probably easier the old school
 way: if you can get to Greenbelt 3 and go up to the middle level (between
 ground and cinema), and look near the Mac shop you'll find it easily.

  On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Are you sure it'll be quiet? That time I was there, the place was
  packed.
  Then again, that was late in the evening. :-)

 At 6pm on a Saturday I'd be willing to bet we have the balcony to
 ourselves.

 Jim


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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-02-04 Thread maning sambale
where exactly is grappa's here:
http://openstreetmap.com/?lat=14.55261lon=121.02281zoom=17layers=B000FTF


On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah Grappa's in Greenbelt 3. I've been here and I know the open-air balcony
 you're talking about. :-)

 Are you sure it'll be quiet? That time I was there, the place was packed.
 Then again, that was late in the evening. :-)


 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:

   1) Makati. Grappas, Greenbelt 3. Just awesome micro-brewed Czech beer.
  Enough said.
http://openstreetmap.com/?lat=14.539482lon=120.979234zoom=18 

 OK, excellent. I can guarantee you won't regret trying the beer ...

 Grappas is upstairs in Greenbelt 3, quite close to the fountain, and
 opposite the Mac shop. If you walk through the restaurant, there's a table
 in the open air out the back, which will be quiet. I'll be there at 6pm, and
 you can just ask any of the Wait staff where Jim is sitting, or OSM if you
 forget the Jim bit.

 I'm passing that way tonight as it happens so I'll reserve the table.

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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-02-04 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Well, I agree that it is overkill to mark each and every store/shop/resto
inside a multistorey mall in OSM. I guess that's the job for something like
OpenFloorPlans or OpenYellowPages. :-)

Anyway, I'll trust you on the having the place to ourselves bit. :-)


On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:

 maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, February 04, 2009 04:24 PM:
  where exactly is grappa's here:
 
 http://openstreetmap.com/?lat=14.55261lon=121.02281zoom=17layers=B000FTF

 Its in Greenbelt 3, or III as its written on OSM. I guess this brings up a
 point about mapping protocol .. I've never felt that its necessary to
 subdivide malls into the many many shops and restaurants inside, and in fact
 I fear it would be messy to try. So anyway, probably easier the old school
 way: if you can get to Greenbelt 3 and go up to the middle level (between
 ground and cinema), and look near the Mac shop you'll find it easily.

  On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Are you sure it'll be quiet? That time I was there, the place was
 packed.
  Then again, that was late in the evening. :-)

 At 6pm on a Saturday I'd be willing to bet we have the balcony to
 ourselves.

 Jim


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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-02-03 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Ah Grappa's in Greenbelt 3. I've been here and I know the open-air balcony
you're talking about. :-)

Are you sure it'll be quiet? That time I was there, the place was packed.
Then again, that was late in the evening. :-)


On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:

   1) Makati. Grappas, Greenbelt 3. Just awesome micro-brewed Czech beer.
 Enough said.
http://openstreetmap.com/?lat=14.539482lon=120.979234zoom=18 

 OK, excellent. I can guarantee you won't regret trying the beer ...

 Grappas is upstairs in Greenbelt 3, quite close to the fountain, and
 opposite the Mac shop. If you walk through the restaurant, there's a table
 in the open air out the back, which will be quiet. I'll be there at 6pm, and
 you can just ask any of the Wait staff where Jim is sitting, or OSM if you
 forget the Jim bit.

 I'm passing that way tonight as it happens so I'll reserve the table.

 Jim



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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-31 Thread Jim Morgan
Michael Cole wrote, On Thursday, January 29, 2009 03:57 PM:
 On Thursday 29 January 2009 01:08:55 Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
 Can we get a head count of who plans to go as well?

Looking like Makati ... In terms of venue, I don't really mind as long as there 
is cold beer. Also generally prefer sitting outside, and obviously somewhere 
quiet enough to have a conversation. 

 1. Eugene (Makati)
 2. Maning (Ortigas)
 3. Michael (Makati)
 4. Jim  (Makati)
 5. ???





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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-29 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Also, I think we should finalize the logistics for the GPStogo devices in
this meetup. Here are some points:

1. Is it possible for OSMF to reimburse the P4,000 customs fee?

2. I'm willing to share P1,000 for the custom fee. I can give the money
during the meetup.

3. Is it possible to get the devices from the post office and bring them
during the meetup? If Ian will attend, then he can get his device. (I vote
that he gets one since he's often in places where there are no Yahoo!
imagery, especially in Laguna.)

4. Who will get the other devices? I would be a waste if we can't take
advantage of these 4 devices during the initial 6-month loan period. (I'd be
willing to lug around one of them but only if there are no others more
worthy since I rarely go out of Metro Manila and there are only a few places
here that aren't updated in the Yahoo! imagery.)

~ Eugene / seav


On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm amenable to both Makati or Ortigas, but since I live closer to Makati,
 my vote goes there. :-)


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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-29 Thread maning sambale
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, I think we should finalize the logistics for the GPStogo devices in
 this meetup. Here are some points:

Agreed, I plan to get them by next week and bring them to the meet-up.
Some people pledged to share a part of the cost.  I will shoulder the
rest.

 1. Is it possible for OSMF to reimburse the P4,000 customs fee?
Personally, I want the OSM Phil. shoulder the custom fees.  We call
this in development work as counterpart.
A way showing we are taking responsibility to the equipment loaned to us.

 2. I'm willing to share P1,000 for the custom fee. I can give the money
 during the meetup.
Alright!

  If Ian will attend, then he can get his device. (I vote
 that he gets one since he's often in places where there are no Yahoo!
 imagery, especially in Laguna.)
+1

 4. Who will get the other devices? I would be a waste if we can't take
 advantage of these 4 devices during the initial 6-month loan period. (I'd be
 willing to lug around one of them but only if there are no others more
 worthy since I rarely go out of Metro Manila and there are only a few places
 here that aren't updated in the Yahoo! imagery.)
Let's discuss this during the meet-up.

 ~ Eugene / seav


 On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm amenable to both Makati or Ortigas, but since I live closer to Makati,
 my vote goes there. :-)






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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-29 Thread Michael Cole
On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:03:26 Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
 4. Who will get the other devices? I would be a waste if we can't take
 advantage of these 4 devices during the initial 6-month loan period. (I'd
 be willing to lug around one of them but only if there are no others more
 worthy since I rarely go out of Metro Manila and there are only a few
 places here that aren't updated in the Yahoo! imagery.)
What is this device..

I know some one that never seems to stop travelling, He is my partner in 
Mycam-asia.tv .

If I know more I can shoulder some of that expense too.

How much more do we need? 3000?

Its a waste if they sit in customs for the next 6 months,,,

Regards..



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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-28 Thread maning sambale
Can we firm-up the venue?

So far its either Ortigas or Makati.



On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:34 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 from rem:
 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:03 PM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote:
 how about some place not too crowded :) pero ok lang kung ano
 mapagkasunduan. madali naman ako kaladkarin hehehe

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:53 PM, maning sambale

 and michael cole
 -- Forwarded message --
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 To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:31:24 +0800
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up
 I vote Makati...

 Shorter distance... Just me..

 Can get anywhere just need the destination and the time..

 We could do Giligans at Makati, Near Glorieta.. Cheap beer...


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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-28 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I'm amenable to both Makati or Ortigas, but since I live closer to Makati,
my vote goes there. :-)

Can we get a head count of who plans to go as well?

1. Eugene
2. Maning
3.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:56 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can we firm-up the venue?

 So far its either Ortigas or Makati.



 On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:34 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  from rem:
  On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:03 PM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote:
  how about some place not too crowded :) pero ok lang kung ano
  mapagkasunduan. madali naman ako kaladkarin hehehe
 
  On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:53 PM, maning sambale
 
  and michael cole
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Michael Cole mc...@timesasia.com
  To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
  Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:31:24 +0800
  Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up
  I vote Makati...
 
  Shorter distance... Just me..
 
  Can get anywhere just need the destination and the time..
 
  We could do Giligans at Makati, Near Glorieta.. Cheap beer...
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Cole
On Thursday 29 January 2009 01:08:55 Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
 Can we get a head count of who plans to go as well?

ME  I vote Makati

1. Eugene
2. Maning
3. Michael
4.
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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-21 Thread maning sambale
So February 7, 6pm ish it is.

Where?  Please post coordinates :D


On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:
 maning sambale wrote, On Thursday, January 15, 2009 04:00 PM:
 Is Feb 7 or 8 OK with everyone?
 Post your availability and preferred venue here.

 Saturday 7th is good. Would prefer Makati, but Ortigas is also possible. Or 
 also possibly somewhere like the harbour side at Mall of Asia, or Harbour 
 View near CCP.

 Maybe about 6pm ish for a sundowner? If we do an early evening meet, then it 
 leaves us free to go about our normal Saturday evening engagements.

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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-21 Thread Jim Morgan
maning sambale wrote, On Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:02 AM:
 So February 7, 6pm ish it is.
 
 Where?  Please post coordinates :D

OK, well as no-one else is stepping up, I'll provide a possibility in each 
location, and we can vote on it. 

1) Makati. Grappas, Greenbelt 3. Just awesome micro-brewed Czech beer. Enough 
said. 
   http://openstreetmap.com/?lat=14.539482lon=120.979234zoom=18

2) Mall of Asia, Hooters. Not as seedy as the name suggests. Its on the bay, so 
nice for a stroll, for people watching, and to watch the sun go down. 
   http://openstreetmap.com/?lat=14.539482lon=120.979234zoom=18

3) Ortigas. Metro Walk. Don't know any specific bars here, but there are a 
couple and the place is pretty small. In fact Elbow Room is on OSM, so lets 
just say there. 
   http://openstreetmap.com/?lat=14.587638lon=121.064539zoom=18

My vote is for Grappas. :-) But then again I go there regularly anyway so I'm 
not too bothered.

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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-21 Thread maning sambale

 2) Mall of Asia, Hooters. Not as seedy as the name suggests. Its on the bay, 
 so nice for a stroll, for people watching, and to watch the sun go down.
   http://openstreetmap.com/?lat=14.539482lon=120.979234zoom=18
Awww!  Somebody beat me to mapping buildings around Mall of Asia

My vote: Ortigas. Metro Walk (hope osm map is correct, I'm not
familiar around Ortigas)

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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-20 Thread Jim Morgan
maning sambale wrote, On Thursday, January 15, 2009 04:00 PM:
 Is Feb 7 or 8 OK with everyone?
 Post your availability and preferred venue here.

Saturday 7th is good. Would prefer Makati, but Ortigas is also possible. Or 
also possibly somewhere like the harbour side at Mall of Asia, or Harbour View 
near CCP. 

Maybe about 6pm ish for a sundowner? If we do an early evening meet, then it 
leaves us free to go about our normal Saturday evening engagements. 

Jim

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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-16 Thread Ed Garcia
hehehe me too!  particularly where beer is involved :)  Would just love to
meet you guys and talk shop.

I would of course prefer near Marikina but Ortigas would be fine too.  I
like weekdays too (no crowds) but Feb 7 is fine too.

Maning, when you say KKB, do you mean Kaniya-Kaniyang bayad?   or
Kaniya-Kaniyang Blowout?   hehehe cheers!

:) ed

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote:

 Feb 7 is much better with me. Makati or Ortigas is also fine with me.



 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:00 PM, maning sambale 
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is Feb 7 or 8 OK with everyone?
 Post your availability and preferred venue here.

 KKB ang beer. :)


 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:
  Yeah, I'm on for a meet up, particularly if beer is involved! Early Feb
 would be prefered, as I'm going to be out of town for the last week of Jan.
 
  Jim
 
  maning sambale wrote, On Monday, January 12, 2009 11:44 AM:
  Hi,
 
  Can we have a meet-up this month (January)?  Just an informal
  gathering of OSM Philippines contributors (over beer, water, iced tea
  or marvel taheebo)
  Anyone ineterested?
 
  post a date or venue here:
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-14 Thread Jim Morgan
Yeah, I'm on for a meet up, particularly if beer is involved! Early Feb would 
be prefered, as I'm going to be out of town for the last week of Jan. 

Jim

maning sambale wrote, On Monday, January 12, 2009 11:44 AM:
 Hi,
 
 Can we have a meet-up this month (January)?  Just an informal
 gathering of OSM Philippines contributors (over beer, water, iced tea
 or marvel taheebo)
 Anyone ineterested?
 
 post a date or venue here:
 

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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines meet-up

2009-01-11 Thread maning sambale
They are already here! (at least some of the bigwig mapper).
waypoints.ph group prefer beers over taheebo di ba ed?
:)


On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do we invite WaypointsDotPH? :-D

 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Can we have a meet-up this month (January)?  Just an informal
 gathering of OSM Philippines contributors (over beer, water, iced tea
 or marvel taheebo)
 Anyone ineterested?

 post a date or venue here:

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