[Talk-si] shifted boundaries between Slovenia, Croatia and Hungary

2014-12-30 Thread arch_a...@t-online.de

Hi,

can someone with local knowledge take a look at the edits of the mapper 
foringas? He has damaged the country boundaries between Hungary, Slovenia and 
Croatia several times in the last few months. He has also shifted the 
borderline between those countries. I can't evaluate if the changes of the 
country boundaries are ok or if those changes are politically motivated.

boundary changes between Croatia and Slovenia: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27773009
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26795077

changes between Hungary and Croatia: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26772180
There may be other changes I didn't notice. 

I've already fixed some damaged boundaries [1] but I didn't revert the shifted 
boundaries as far as possible.

Best regards,

4rch

[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27811545


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Re: [Talk-si] shifted boundaries between Slovenia, Croatia and Hungary

2014-12-30 Thread Stefan Baebler
Yes, i too was fixing the broken relations a while ago:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26805749
when user foringas moved the border without taking care of the relations as
well.
I resisted from moving the border in any way, just fixed the broken
relations.

The border between Croatia and Slovenia is disputed in some places, most
notably the maritime border in the Adriatic sea and along the ever-shifting
river meanders in Panonian plain.
The arbitration in The Hague is still ongoing:
http://www.pca-cpa.org/showpage.asp?pag_id=1443
I suggest we wait for the outcome of arbitration instead of moving the
border back and forth in a futile edit war.

all best,
Štefan

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:13 AM, arch_a...@t-online.de 
arch_a...@t-online.de wrote:


 Hi,

 can someone with local knowledge take a look at the edits of the mapper
 foringas? He has damaged the country boundaries between Hungary, Slovenia
 and Croatia several times in the last few months. He has also shifted the
 borderline between those countries. I can't evaluate if the changes of the
 country boundaries are ok or if those changes are politically motivated.

 boundary changes between Croatia and Slovenia:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27773009
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26795077

 changes between Hungary and Croatia:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26772180
 There may be other changes I didn't notice.

 I've already fixed some damaged boundaries [1] but I didn't revert the
 shifted boundaries as far as possible.

 Best regards,

 4rch

 [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27811545

 
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Re: [Talk-si] shifted boundaries between Slovenia, Croatia and Hungary

2014-12-30 Thread Stefan Baebler
There is the brief discussion i had with the user foringas about his
changes: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26795077

All best,
Štefan

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:08 AM, Stefan Baebler stefan.baeb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Yes, i too was fixing the broken relations a while ago:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26805749
 when user foringas moved the border without taking care of the relations
 as well.
 I resisted from moving the border in any way, just fixed the broken
 relations.

 The border between Croatia and Slovenia is disputed in some places, most
 notably the maritime border in the Adriatic sea and along the ever-shifting
 river meanders in Panonian plain.
 The arbitration in The Hague is still ongoing:
 http://www.pca-cpa.org/showpage.asp?pag_id=1443
 I suggest we wait for the outcome of arbitration instead of moving the
 border back and forth in a futile edit war.

 all best,
 Štefan

 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 12:13 AM, arch_a...@t-online.de 
 arch_a...@t-online.de wrote:


 Hi,

 can someone with local knowledge take a look at the edits of the mapper
 foringas? He has damaged the country boundaries between Hungary, Slovenia
 and Croatia several times in the last few months. He has also shifted the
 borderline between those countries. I can't evaluate if the changes of the
 country boundaries are ok or if those changes are politically motivated.

 boundary changes between Croatia and Slovenia:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27773009
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26795077

 changes between Hungary and Croatia:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26772180
 There may be other changes I didn't notice.

 I've already fixed some damaged boundaries [1] but I didn't revert the
 shifted boundaries as far as possible.

 Best regards,

 4rch

 [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27811545

 
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