Re: [Talk-transit] Adding highway=bus_stop to nodes with public transport=platform bus=yes

[Mateusz Konieczny]

28 May 2019, 16:24 by ja...@piorkowski.ca:

> On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 07:24, Mateusz Konieczny  
> wrote:
>
>> In this bot edit:
>>
>> * Editing is limited to Poland
>> * Editing is limited to nodes with public_transport=platform bus=yes
>> * Nodes with nearby (within 250 meters) highway=bus_stop are ignored[1]
>> * Elements with highway tag are skipped
>> * To remaining highway=bus_stop is added
>>
>
> This seems like a good plan.
>
> I would maybe suggest checking if the platform is a member in a
> stop_area and if that stop_area already includes a highway=bus_stop.
> But I don't know how widely stop_area has been used in Poland.
>
I was unaware that such relation exists, thanks!
Based on my testing ( http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Jq1 
 ) my query structure
covers it by "Nodes with nearby (within 250 meters) highway=bus_stop are 
ignored"

>> I just noticed during writing a post to this thread about this bot edit that
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct#Document_and_discuss_your_plans
>> has
>> "and if your edit affects a specialist subject, such as oil rigs or public 
>> transport
>> which has its own list then you should also discuss your plans on that 
>> mailing list."
>> ...
>> PS What is the name of mailing list about oil rigs? I am unable to find it on
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo
>>
>
> I guess you could ask the editor of
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct=prev=1186355
> and > 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct=next=1186548
>  
> 
>
Asked. Give age of the edit I am betting that mailing list existed but was 
closed since
that time.

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Re: [Talk-transit] Adding highway=bus_stop to nodes with public transport=platform bus=yes

[Jarek Piórkowski]

On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 07:24, Mateusz Konieczny  wrote:
> In this bot edit:
>
> * Editing is limited to Poland
> * Editing is limited to nodes with public_transport=platform bus=yes
> * Nodes with nearby (within 250 meters) highway=bus_stop are ignored[1]
> * Elements with highway tag are skipped
> * To remaining highway=bus_stop is added

This seems like a good plan.

I would maybe suggest checking if the platform is a member in a
stop_area and if that stop_area already includes a highway=bus_stop.
But I don't know how widely stop_area has been used in Poland.

> I just noticed during writing a post to this thread about this bot edit that
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct#Document_and_discuss_your_plans
> has
> "and if your edit affects a specialist subject, such as oil rigs or public 
> transport
> which has its own list then you should also discuss your plans on that 
> mailing list."
> ...
> PS What is the name of mailing list about oil rigs? I am unable to find it on
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Presumably that should be "a specialist subject which has its own
community such as a mailing list" or something.

I guess you could ask the editor of
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct=prev=1186355
and 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct=next=1186548

I did see editors focused on drawing pipelines (though I wonder about
verifiability sometimes) and there is a guideline for maritime stuff
like seamarks so I guess there might be a sub-community interested in
oil rigs somewhere.

--Jarek

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Re: [Talk-transit] Adding highway=bus_stop to nodes with public transport=platform bus=yes

[Jo]

I think it's standard practice to add highway=bus_stop to nodes for bus
stops, as they won't render otherwise anyway.

I don't see parrticular need to ask for permission to add it, but if you
do, you have my vote to add it. I'm starting to have a tendency to move
away from public_transport=platform/bus=yes, but that's another story, of
course.

Polyglot

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:24 PM Mateusz Konieczny 
wrote:

> In Poland there are some bus stops mapped solely as public
> transport=platform bus=yes
> nodes, without highway=bus_stop.
>
> One of local mappers noticed this problem and asked for fixing the
> problem, what resulted in
> automatic edit proposal being accepted by a local community as it is
> considered preferable
> for bus stops to include standard highway=bus_stop, at least in Poland.
>
> In this bot edit:
>
> * Editing is limited to Poland
> * Editing is limited to nodes with public_transport=platform bus=yes
> * Nodes with nearby (within 250 meters) highway=bus_stop are ignored[1]
> * Elements with highway tag are skipped
> * To remaining highway=bus_stop is added
>
> [1] To handle cases like
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4004954618#map=19/50.04537/19.85997
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1726904219#map=19/50.04537/19.85997
> In this case adding highway=bus_stop would not improve data quality
>
> Documentation page with more detail, including source code is at
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny_-_bot_account/add_highway%3Dbus_stop_tag_where_only_public_transport%3Dplatform_bus%3Dyes_is_present_in_Poland
>
> I just noticed during writing a post to this thread about this bot edit
> that
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct#Document_and_discuss_your_plans
> has
> "and if your edit affects a specialist subject, such as oil rigs or public
> transport
> which has its own list then you should also discuss your plans on that
> mailing list."
>
> Unfortunately, bot edit was already started and made some modifications.
>
> I am sorry for not doing it before, I stopped script after noticing it and
> submitted this thread.
>
> PS What is the name of mailing list about oil rigs? I am unable to find it
> on
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo
>
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[Talk-transit] Adding highway=bus_stop to nodes with public transport=platform bus=yes

[Mateusz Konieczny]

In Poland there are some bus stops mapped solely as public transport=platform 
bus=yes
nodes, without highway=bus_stop.

One of local mappers noticed this problem and asked for fixing the problem, 
what resulted in
automatic edit proposal being accepted by a local community as it is considered 
preferable
for bus stops to include standard highway=bus_stop, at least in Poland.

In this bot edit:

* Editing is limited to Poland
* Editing is limited to nodes with public_transport=platform bus=yes
* Nodes with nearby (within 250 meters) highway=bus_stop are ignored[1]* 
Elements with highway tag are skipped
* To remaining highway=bus_stop is added

[1] To handle cases like
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4004954618#map=19/50.04537/19.85997 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1726904219#map=19/50.04537/19.85997 

In this case adding highway=bus_stop would not improve data quality

Documentation page with more detail, including source code is at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny_-_bot_account/add_highway%3Dbus_stop_tag_where_only_public_transport%3Dplatform_bus%3Dyes_is_present_in_Poland
 


I just noticed during writing a post to this thread about this bot edit that 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct#Document_and_discuss_your_plans
 

has
"and if your edit affects a specialist subject, such as oil rigs or public 
transport
which has its own list then you should also discuss your plans on that mailing 
list."

Unfortunately, bot edit was already started and made some modifications.

I am sorry for not doing it before, I stopped script after noticing it and 
submitted this thread.

PS What is the name of mailing list about oil rigs? I am unable to find it on
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

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