> Maybe we should, rather than blurring the line between on-street and
off-street use, make off-street the officially preferred way of mapping.

I believe that is a basic part of Jo's proposal.

I agree with those who have said:
1) one and only one relation member should be required (mandatory) for each
stop
2) other relations members should be optional but not wrong (that is, not
deprecated)



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> From: Roland Olbricht <roland.olbri...@gmx.de>
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> Dear all,
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> as a follow-up a statistic about whether highway=bus_stop is rather used
> on-street or off-street. The vast majority is (now) mapping bus stops
> off the street. The numbers vary, 99% of all bus stops in United Kingdom
> are mapped off street, about 80%-90% in France, Italy, and Germany. But
> also only 65% in Poland.
>
> The request is per country, here "United Kingdom" as an example. Please
> change the country to your country of interest:
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/xXp
> The runtime can vary, and for Germany it is several minutes.
> The important data points are the first entries on the "Data" tab.
> The results visiable on the map indicate which stops the query could not
> sort as either on-the-road or off-the-road (including being on a footway
> or similar) because it could not classify the highway value as footway
> or vehicle related. highway=pedestrian is classified as vehicle way,
> because in all the examples I have checked it has been used that way:
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/xXq
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> Maybe we should, rather than blurring the line between on-street and
> off-street use, make off-street the officially preferred way of mapping.
>
> Best regards,
> Roland
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