Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Martijn van Exel
The use case would be to distinguish between onramps in routing and guidance. The onramp entrances can be close together, so it helps tremendously if you can say 'turn right onto Interstate 215 West' instead of just 'turn right onto Interstate 215'. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Richard Welty

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/17/13 1:52 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: The use case would be to distinguish between onramps in routing and guidance. The onramp entrances can be close together, so it helps tremendously if you can say 'turn right onto Interstate 215 West' instead of just 'turn right onto Interstate 215'.

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Question about incorrect data for an administrative area

2013-10-17 Thread Steven Johnson
When tagging boundaries, I think you'll find it worthwhile to look at the US Census Bureau's 2012 Census of Governments[0], which lists all incorporated governmental units by state. It's is a comprehensive listing by state, of all governmental units. It's indispensable for understanding the

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Ian Dees
The direction of a US Interstate isn't necessarily the compass direction of the road. For example, this chunk of I-94 is facing south, but it's still eastbound I-94. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/33098899 On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote:

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/17/13 3:14 PM, Ian Dees wrote: The direction of a US Interstate isn't necessarily the compass direction of the road. For example, this chunk of I-94 is facing south, but it's still eastbound I-94. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/33098899 this is true of many roads, not just

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Tod Fitch
One could argue that even two lane highways could benefit from directional relations. http://shields.aaroads.com/blog/photos/056747.jpg It is unlikely that all access to these types of roads could be tagged. And it might be nice if the routing software says you should be on US 101 South and

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013, at 02:14 PM, Ian Dees wrote: The direction of a US Interstate isn't necessarily the compass direction of the road. However, in some cases the directions change as the highway goes on, especially for loops: I-610 in Houston, Texas, changes from north/south to east/west to

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Tod Fitch
True also of the westbound Ventura Freeway in Los Angeles which is officially US101 North. There is a portion of I10 through Phoenix which runs north/south too. Tod -- Sent from my mobile device. Please excuse my brevity. Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: The direction of a US Interstate

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Martijn van Exel
Yea, I realized that as well. There's even a section of I-80 / I-580 in Berkeley, CA where the directionality of I-80 and I-580 is opposite... http://goo.gl/maps/XROab (The actual compass direction is more like N/S on that stretch.) I don't know if there's a definitive reference for the

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Yea, I realized that as well. There's even a section of I-80 / I-580 in Berkeley, CA where the directionality of I-80 and I-580 is opposite... http://goo.gl/maps/XROab (The actual compass direction is more like N/S on

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: The direction of a US Interstate isn't necessarily the compass direction of the road. For example, this chunk of I-94 is facing south, but it's still eastbound I-94. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/33098899 On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM,

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Brad Neuhauser
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System#Primary_.28one-_and_two-digit.29_routes_.28contiguous_U.S..29: In the numbering scheme, east-west highways are assigned even numbers and north-south highways are assigned odd numbers. Odd route numbers increase from west to east, and

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Saikrishna Arcot
Just to add, three-digit routes tend to be either regional or be loop-shaped, where the designated direction changes. Saikrishna Arcot On Thu 17 Oct 2013 03:40:07 PM EDT, Ian Dees wrote: On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org mailto:m...@rtijn.org wrote: Yea, I

Re: [Talk-us] Ferries

2013-10-17 Thread Evin Fairchild
When I made relations for all the state highways in Washington, I included the ferry routes and the ferry access roads in the highway route relation. I also have done some edits to ferry terminals, adding a way for each lane in the ferry waiting lot. This was previously done at some ferry

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 10/17/2013 03:21 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 10/17/13 3:14 PM, Ian Dees wrote: The direction of a US Interstate isn't necessarily the compass direction of the road. For example, this chunk of I-94 is facing south, but it's still eastbound I-94.

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Martijn van Exel
Thanks for all your input. For the interstates it seems to be somewhat straightforward, at least for the two digit ones as Ian indicated. It gets tricky when you enter the realm of three-digiters and US and state routes... That is where explicit directionality would be helpful. If we were to dig

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Nathan Mills
On 10/17/2013 1:03 PM, Richard Welty wrote: hmmm. we're using exit_to (i think) for off ramps, maybe we need entrance_to for on ramps the value would be more or less exactly the text visible on the signage. This makes the most sense to me as the solution for the specific use case Martijn is

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2013-10-16

2013-10-17 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel free to ask. However, please do not send me private mail. The odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by asking on the talk-us@

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Tod Fitch
On Oct 17, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: On 10/17/2013 1:03 PM, Richard Welty wrote: If my GPS tells me to turn right at the entrance to East Interstate Whatever and the sign says North Interstate Whatever, I'm going to be confused and wonder if I'm actually making the correct

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Eric Fischer
California gives State, US, and Interstate roads unique signed numbers within the state, but not all states do. Interstate 64 in southern Indiana is close enough to State Road 64 to cause frequent confusion. Eric On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: On Oct

Re: [Talk-us] Freeway directions

2013-10-17 Thread Alexander Jones
Tod Fitch wrote: For what it is worth, it is my understanding that within a state the use of a particular number, at least outside of triple digit urban beltways and penetration Interstates, is supposed to be unique. So if I-10 goes through your state, there will be no US10 nor a state