Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-20 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Dec 20, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > What I'm saying is highway=bundesstraße could be acceptable, but > straße=bundestraße wouldn't be. Mostly so way type objects with highway=* > are still potentially routable. I sure wouldn’t want to be the person in charge of

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:22 PM Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 20:16, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 6:57 PM Joseph Eisenberg < > joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Being able to speak each country's highway lingua franca would make > it a lot easier

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Preliminary Import/Organized Mapping Effort Idea

2019-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:18 PM Clifford Snow wrote: > I've reached out to a couple of the nearby reservations, one with a small > parcel of off reservation land trust, the other with only a small > reservation but a very large off reservation land trust. I don't expect > answers until possibly

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Preliminary Import/Organized Mapping Effort Idea

2019-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
(Conversational quoting, please) On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 6:42 PM David Bartecchi wrote: > All of these concerns must be weighed against the fact that the current > absence of Native lands in OSM only contributes to the erasure Native > Americans and their lands from the American collective

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Preliminary Import/Organized Mapping Effort Idea

2019-12-20 Thread Clifford Snow
I've reached out to a couple of the nearby reservations, one with a small parcel of off reservation land trust, the other with only a small reservation but a very large off reservation land trust. I don't expect answers until possibly after the new year. Unlike Oklahoma, Washington reservations

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 6:57 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Being able to speak each country's highway lingua franca would make it a > lot easier for OSM to become the Rosetta Stone of maps simply from ease of > classification. > > That would mean using "jalan=provinsi" instead of

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> Being able to speak each country's highway lingua franca would make it a lot > easier for OSM to become the Rosetta Stone of maps simply from ease of > classification. That would mean using "jalan=provinsi" instead of "highway=primary" in Indonesia, so any global map service (like

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 1:07 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 20 Dec 2019, 01:25 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > > So, for example, in the US, instead of motorway, trunk, primary, > secondary, tertiary, perhaps something more like freeway, expressway, > major/minor_principal (just having this would fix

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Preliminary Import/Organized Mapping Effort Idea

2019-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
Content warning: Aboriginal abuse mention On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 2:08 PM Clifford Snow wrote: > I do have Washington State tribal lands available [1] as a background > layer for JOSM. There is also a vector tile layer [2] of the same > background available for iD users. > > The data contains

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Above it was said that the highway=trunk vs highway=primary distinction is mostly for routing applications. But allowing a proper rendering is also a main goal of the road tagging system. While it's true that road class is useful for routing when there are two alterate routes, a main reason to

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Eric H. Christensen wrote: > The routing engine should be able to take into account > the road surface It can and often does. Your problem there is that only 2% of highway= ways in the US are explicitly tagged with surface; probably only 30% are implicitly tagged; and sometimes the implicit