Re: [Talk-us] Trouble with getting Superior National Forest

2020-09-02 Thread brad
I'm with Kevin, SteveA, etc,  here.   In the part of the world that I live, a map without national forest & BLM boundaries is very incomplete.   A useful OSM needs this.   The useful boundary would be the actual ownership boundary, not the outer potential ownership boundary.   Messy, I know.

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI [parcel ownership]

2020-09-02 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 5:34 PM Doug Peterson < dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org> wrote: > That is made up of two properties. The southern, larger square is owned by > Thomas & Jane Griffith. The northern, smaller square is owned by the John & > Jane Griffith. The other square to the west of that,

Re: [Talk-us] Unintentional improvements in OSM data influencing / improving other databases

2020-09-02 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:48 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > But if we are talking about legal parcel boundaries or legal protected > area boundaries, or administrative limits, then it's not at all possible > for OpenStreetMap users to resolve these conflicts in our database alone. > > What needs to

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI [parcel ownership]

2020-09-02 Thread Doug Peterson
That is made up of two properties. The southern, larger square is owned by Thomas & Jane Griffith. The northern, smaller square is owned by the John & Jane Griffith. The other square to the west of that, not included, is owned by John & Jane Griffith. That is just ownership. That does not say

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Karson Sommer
https://mgis.coleman-engineering.com/web/ shows the parcel in question being privately owned. On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 12:27 PM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > the DWG has been asked to remove this bit of land > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/146418027#map=13/47.3306/-88.4441 > > from the

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Correct, sorry, my mistake! On 9/2/20 20:02, Kerry Irons wrote: > It's Copper Country, not Cooper Country.  > > Kerry Irons  > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 1:55 PM Kevin Kenny > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:47 PM Joseph Eisenberg >

Re: [Talk-us] Unintentional improvements in OSM data influencing / improving other databases

2020-09-02 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
RE: "Many government and agency data sources are in conflict with each other over the same information; OSM can serve to provide "resolved" versions that are confirmed with ground observation where required." Similar thoughts have been expressed previously in this thread. But if we are talking

Re: [Talk-us] Unintentional improvements in OSM data influencing / improving other databases

2020-09-02 Thread Bradley White
> > I echo this sentiment exactly as having taken place in California and in > my experiences with OSM. This is most certainly a longer-term endeavor > (over several, even many years), but improvements in alignments between > data components which have been entered into OSM from my County GIS, >

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Kerry Irons
It's Copper Country, not Cooper Country. Kerry Irons On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 1:55 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:47 PM Joseph Eisenberg < > joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My goodness, look at that monstrosity: >> >>

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:47 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > My goodness, look at that monstrosity: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1976405#map=8/46.459/-87.627 > > How can we claim that all of these patches of state-owned land constitute > a single OpenStreetMap feature? > Because they

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
My goodness, look at that monstrosity: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1976405#map=8/46.459/-87.627 How can we claim that all of these patches of state-owned land constitute a single OpenStreetMap feature? -- Joseph Eisenberg On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:27 AM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi,

Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 153, Issue 22 OSM-US local chapter application (Joost Schouppe [OSMF secretary])

2020-09-02 Thread Maggie Cawley
> > Hi All, > Community consultation for the OpenStreetMap US application to become a local > chapter of OSMF [OSMF secretary])>ends on September 5. It would be great to hear from > more community members, so if you have time and

[Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, the DWG has been asked to remove this bit of land https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/146418027#map=13/47.3306/-88.4441 from the "Cooper Country State Forest" protected area since it has been purchased from the state by private individuals in 2006 and "the recent plat books show this". I

[Talk-us] Unintentional improvements in OSM data influencing / improving other databases

2020-09-02 Thread stevea
On September 1, 2020 at 8:07:46 AM PDT, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > In many of these cases OSM has an opportunity to improve the government data. > A mapper can analyze the conflict, sort out the different data sources, > perhaps visit the site in the field, and produce a result that is more >