Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-21 Thread Torsten Karzig
> OK, so say so where so. (Tag in OSM accordingly). If you wish to > "subtract from the polygon" areas which you are absolutely certain no > timber production is allowed or possible, go for it. I won't argue. > Your list is a good start. > Well, perhaps we have a happy compromise here. Tell

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-19 Thread Torsten Karzig
On 08/19/2015 11:30 AM, talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: > Me collecting firewood makes this a forest producing timber. Full stop. If I go to the wiki page on landuse I find for landuse=forest "For areas with a high density of trees primarily grown for timber." This is also what most pe

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-18 Thread Torsten Karzig
As mentioned earlier part of the problem is a confusion between tagging what is there (landcover) and what it is used for (landuse). In the wiki we actually have a consistent approach (Approach 1) to make this distinction. Using natural=wood as a landcover tag and landuse=forest for areas of lan

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-17 Thread Torsten Karzig
I agree with Martijn and Paul. To not repeat some of the arguments I want to point out that there was a similar discussion on the mailing list two years ago: misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-u

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-11 Thread Torsten Karzig
Please don't confuse "land cover" with the political/jurisdictional and geographical definition of "inside the boundaries of a national forest." One more remark. Shouldn't the political/jurisdictional and geographical definition of "inside the boundaries of a national forest be defined by the

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-11 Thread Torsten Karzig
SteveA, Alright, thanks for the clarification. Please don't confuse "land cover" with the political/jurisdictional and geographical definition of "inside the boundaries of a national forest." I would guess that I am not the only one who gets confused by this. In fact I would even say that th

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-11 Thread Torsten Karzig
Hello SteveA, Thanks a lot for your reply. I really appreciate you work for updating the national forests in southern California. Before posting I already read the wiki pages you mentioned. For me it seemed that there is still some dispute about how the tag landuse=forest is used and there e

[Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-11 Thread Torsten Karzig
I am relatively new to the talk-us list and have a question concerning the landuse tags of national forests. Right now (at least in southern california) all national forests are landuse=forest which leads to large green areas on the map which look like they originate from a very old video game