On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:13:18 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:32:54 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
Rather than United Stated Highway 29 Frontage Road just U.S. 29
Frontage Road or maybe US 29 Frontage Road. Why. Because no will
say
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:32:54 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
Rather than United Stated Highway 29 Frontage Road just U.S. 29
Frontage Road or maybe US 29 Frontage Road. Why. Because no will say
the formal out load.
Rather than Interstate 95 Frontage Road, just I-95 Frontage Road.
Why? Even
On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:32:54 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
Rather than United Stated Highway 29 Frontage Road just U.S. 29
Frontage Road or maybe US 29 Frontage Road. Why. Because no will say
the formal out load.
Rather than Interstate 95 Frontage
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:56:51 -0700, Alan Mintz wrote:
Yes. Last time, a couple of us (or maybe just me - I forget) argued that
it was OK to use common abbreviations for some well-known street types -
at least St, Ave, Blvd, Pl, etc. - but the opposition was significant,
and no change could be
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 00:04:31 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
Since when does a frontage road get a Highway shield?
There's some special cases in Oregon where I 84 and US 30 are
multiplexed. US 30 takes the frontage in every city except Portland,
Gresham, Wood Village and Troutdale. Granted,
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:09:10 -0400, Richard Welty wrote:
On 8/4/10 7:45 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
North Service Road and South Service Road. Romantic names, I know. Are
these similar to what you are calling frontage roads?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:42:52 -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
I think typically this isn't part of a name at all. Are people using it
in an address for mailing? how is it written in official records? how
would anyone do a search for a street? there are many corner cases so
there is no simple
At 2010-08-07 12:59, Paul Johnson wrote:
Meanwhile,
it has been observed on more than one occasion that the quality of the
data imported by TIGER is nearly or entirely worse than a blank map.
People can observe all they want - it doesn't make them right, and this
particular observation would
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:37:33 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
Or do people here really think everything should be expand to the
fullest.
Abbreviations are bad because they can't be easily automatically
expanded. However, it's easy to abbreviate in a renderer when you know
what the full word is.
On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:28:26 -0700, Alan Mintz wrote:
Lastly, it matches the
overwhelming majority of print usage and signage.
If print usage and signage were consistent even between cities in the
same state, I'd tend to agree. Given that what areas abbreviate which
words and what
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
On 3 Aug 2010, at 22:32 , Kevin Atkinson wrote:
OK. So There is clearly no agreement on the abbreviation of road types
(Street, Way, etc). So what about these specific exceptions. I will assume
silence means agreement :)
Rather than
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.orgwrote:
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
On 3 Aug 2010, at 22:32 , Kevin Atkinson wrote:
OK. So There is clearly no agreement on the abbreviation of road types
(Street, Way, etc). So what about these
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org wrote:
OK. So There is clearly no agreement on the abbreviation of road types
(Street, Way, etc). So what about these specific exceptions. I will assume
silence means agreement :)
See
On 8/4/10 7:45 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
North Service Road and South Service Road. Romantic names, I know.
Are these similar to what you are calling frontage roads?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.58872lon=-79.57644zoom=17layers=M
i certainly would call those frontage roads.
Perhaps
On 4 August 2010 08:23, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org
wrote:
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
On 3 Aug 2010, at 22:32 , Kevin Atkinson wrote:
most of the times I see it
name=Frontage Road
On 08/04/2010 07:09 AM, Richard Welty wrote:
otherwise, i'd go with local usage. some places use Service Road,
others use Frontage Road, and i'm sure there are other usages.
Either way though, that’s not the actual name of the road. It’s a
description of the road’s function. (though
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Richard Weait wrote:
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org wrote:
OK. So There is clearly no agreement on the abbreviation of road types
(Street, Way, etc). So what about these specific exceptions. I will assume
silence means agreement :)
Chesterfield, MO 63017
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-Original Message-
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 10:34:25 -0500
From: Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net
To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Abbreviation Police
Message-ID: i3c1a8$rs
I'm not really speaking for/against abbreviations in general, just
adding information. It would definitely be Pkwy and Blvd. The USPS has
documented standards for prefixes, suffixes and any other fixes you
may want. 208 pages worth:
http://pe.usps.com/cpim/ftp/pubs/pub28/pub28.pdf
Toby
On Tue,
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
How do you abbreviate Boulevard? Blvd or Bv? How about Parkway? Pkwy,
Pky, or Py? The same road (Central Florida Parkway) has all three on
signs
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:57 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
How do you abbreviate Boulevard? Blvd or Bv? How about Parkway? Pkwy,
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
I see these abbreviation errors in other map products. I have a
navigation device that announces County Road 33 as Co-Road
Thirty-three Surely we can aspire to do better than propagating the
errors of other projects?
OK. So There is clearly no agreement on the abbreviation of road types
(Street, Way, etc). So what about these specific exceptions. I will
assume silence means agreement :)
Rather than United Stated Highway 29 Frontage Road just U.S. 29
Frontage Road or maybe US 29 Frontage Road.
Why.
On 3 Aug 2010, at 22:32 , Kevin Atkinson wrote:
OK. So There is clearly no agreement on the abbreviation of road types
(Street, Way, etc). So what about these specific exceptions. I will assume
silence means agreement :)
Rather than United Stated Highway 29 Frontage Road just U.S.
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Kevin Atkinson wrote:
OK. So There is clearly no agreement on the abbreviation of road types
(Street, Way, etc). So what about these specific exceptions. I will assume
silence means agreement :)
So to be clear. This mail has nothing to do with my proposed changes, or
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.orgwrote:
So I would like to know has anyone tried to get the wiki page changed so
that it is not so rigid?
feel free to do so, if there is an acceptable agreement or the wiki just
doesn't make sense. the wiki is as open as
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