Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2014-04-23 Thread robmorgan78
Hello everyone, I am doing a project in my GIS class that involves working with a shape file and exporting to a KML file. I have been going to Burning Man for the past few years now and thought it would be interesting to work with data from BM. I stumbled across this discussion and now instead of

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity (robmorgan78)

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Patrick
First question, does anyone know where I can get shapefile data from past Burning Man events? You could contact the organizers or frequent participants ( there are several list serves) and ask if anyone has any GPS traces or KML files. Probabilistically, there may be some GIS attendee that

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2014-04-23 Thread Brad Neuhauser
You might want to check out this thread from last year: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-August/011641.html Cheers, Brad On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM, robmorgan78 robmorga...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I am doing a project in my GIS class that involves working

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2014-04-23 Thread Serge Wroclawski
I have to say that I have very mixed feelings about Burning Man being in OSM. While I think that it's interesting because the event is so large and there's potential utility, there are two things that bring me a bit of concern: 1. Based on past years, the data is added but not deleted. The event

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2014-04-23 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to check out this thread from last year: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-August/011641.html Cheers, Brad On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM, robmorgan78 robmorga...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2014-04-23 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Secondly, OpenStreetMap data is supposed to be current, rather than historical. There is a separate mailing list for those with an interest in OpenStreetMap and historical objects. The two older version of BM map are

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2014-04-23 Thread Mikel Maron
Hi Rob Let's talk. Lots of cool opportunities. I put the data from past years data up, years ago. I'd like to get those years, and other years, available on an archive tile server - mini site ... perhaps OpenHistoricalMap if we can get that running again ... or just on it's own set of static

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2014-04-23 Thread Dale Puch
A bit off topic here, but all the tools for making and running an OSM database are available and opensource. I'm not sure if it is a good or bad idea for OSM but other layers of data could be developed and stored on other servers. That would keep OSM focused, but allow for more esoteric datasets

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-06 Thread David Chiles
-- *From:* Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com *To:* Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com *Cc:* Open Street Map Talk-US talk-us@openstreetmap.org *Sent:* Monday, August 5, 2013 3:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity Clay, does this give

[Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Clay Smalley
So Black Rock City is mapped on OpenStreetMap... twice. And both are old versions (the city as it was in 2008 and 2009). Anyone know why this is? Should the two old cities be deleted and replaced with the 2013 city? I have a feeling that this could be a fun publicity opportunity for OSM, if we're

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Kathleen Danielson
I only know a little about Burning Man (seriously, just what I read in Cory Doctorow's Homeland), but mapping BRC makes sense to me. Is it on the exact same location every year? In that case it seems like it would make sense to update the map annually. If they are on different parts of the

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Elliott Plack
Just as a note of interest, on my way to SOTMUS this year in San Francisco, I'm pretty sure we flew over Black Rock City. I took some pictures out of the plane window: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/kfjpmgydqcser3v/tqkMPNPrCw(link to pictures). -Elliott On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Kathleen

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Michal Migurski
Black Rock City moves slightly each year, to minimize impact on any particular spot in the playa. The streets are also given new names, and the city expands to accommodate additional population growth. It's effectively a totally new geography each time. Mikel has been involved in the project

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
Hi All, Mikel and I did the original mapping, and its now a few years out of date. I have access to the data for this year, but its always a sensitive topic about when it can be released. Let me do a little bit of research and report back in a few days. Jeff On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM,

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: Black Rock City moves slightly each year, to minimize impact on any particular spot in the playa. The streets are also given new names, and the city expands to accommodate additional population growth. It's effectively a

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Do we have shapefiles for previous years? Even if we can't do 2013 yet it might be fun to work on the last couple of years. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: Black Rock City moves

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Steven Johnson
I'm almost certain that Mikel was involved in one, or both of those '08/'09 efforts to map Black Rock City. Worth contacting him about what it would take to re-do it for 2013. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
I believe we have data all the way back to 2006 and have the information needed to construct them for past years all the way back to the first year in the desert. Kathleen, you can follow up with Andrew Johnstone and...@adjohnstone.com as he is closest to the BRC org and can help track that stuff

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
He was certainly involved back then, but like me, his interest in BM/BRC has dropped off a bit. I've connected Migurski with the people in the Bay Area that have all the data and hoping he can help get everything together so it can go into the map. Jeff On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Steven

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Michal Migurski
I'd love to help with this, but I'm not much of a burner (first last: 2001) so I won't be able to follow up. Sorry! -mike. On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote: He was certainly involved back then, but like me, his interest in BM/BRC has dropped off a bit. I've connected

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
No worries, I will see if I can get the data together and pass it off to someone that can do something with it. Potentially Mikel. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: I'd love to help with this, but I'm not much of a burner (first last: 2001) so I won't be

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Clay, does this give you something to work with? On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: I'd love to help with this, but I'm not much of a burner (first last: 2001) so I won't be able to follow up. Sorry! -mike. On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Jeffrey Johnson

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread stevea
Kathleen Danielson wrote: Are any OSM folks going to be at Burning Man this year? Not this year, but I have been 11 times total. First year: 1995. I consider the playa a second home. I agree that preserving old BRC-scapes in OSM is cool, but if there is confusing overlap with the

Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Mikel Maron
To: Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US talk-us@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity Clay, does this give you something to work with?  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Michal Migurski