Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Thread Minh Nguyen
Kevin Morgan writes: > > > Here is an idea. An additional tag is added called signage. The tag use the following format  name;ref;text. Each item is added to the tag if the information is in clued on road signs. The tag has the following sub tags color, icon, description, direction and text. Th

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 12:07 -0400, Kevin Morgan wrote: > Here is an idea. An additional tag is added called signage. The tag > use the following format name;ref;text. Each item is added to the tag > if the information is in clued on road signs. The tag has the > following sub tags color, icon, des

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Thread Paul Johnson
I think this would be great for point-based data in order to help others properly determine the correct name=* tag. However, given the circumstances, I tend to also use source:name or name:source (not sure which is correct) citing the state law renaming the road, since that's verifable and canonic

[Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Thread Kevin Morgan
Here is an idea. An additional tag is added called signage. The tag use the following format name;ref;text. Each item is added to the tag if the information is in clued on road signs. The tag has the following sub tags color, icon, description, direction and text. The text sub tag is used to add a

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 5:47 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Greg Troxel wrote: > > When converting to garmin format with mkgmap, and I think with osmand, > > I will tend to hear both the name and the ref. That's a big lengthy, but > > there's no real pattern on which to leave out. > > For cycle.

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Greg Troxel wrote: > When converting to garmin format with mkgmap, and I think with osmand, > I will tend to hear both the name and the ref. That's a big lengthy, but > there's no real pattern on which to leave out. For cycle.travel's directions in the US, I've started post-processing the name a

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Paul Johnson writes: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Kevin Morgan > wrote: > >> It is confusing to use open street maps in my area(Central Ohio) for >> driving directions since the "common names" of high ways do not match >> road signs. The common names are used by open map chest for road nam

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
There are many parts here: road signs in the real world, names which might not match those, data in OSM, and presentation by "stacks" (hardware/software/network) of those data. The first two can be captured with proper tagging in the third. If the fourth does not meet your needs, it MAY be t

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread Minh Nguyen
Paul Johnson writes: > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Kevin Morgan wrote:It is confusing to use open street maps in my area(Central Ohio) for > driving directions since the "common names" of high ways do not match > road signs. The common names are used by open map chest for road names. > Fo

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > I've tended to use "name:signed=no" and/or "ref:signed=no" if there's a > name or ref that is agreed to be "correct" but not useful for navigation. This is where things get *exceedingly* complicated in my region. Signage can be *highly* i

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/07/2016 15:45, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: ... According to the Iowa DOT, it's official name is "Interstate Highway 235" but ... As Paul has already said, that sounds like a "ref" to me, not a "name". If something doesn't have a name, you don't need to create one for OSM... Cheers, Andy _

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > > In the UK we've also had a problem with some (generally armchair) mappers > thinking that "all roads must have a name" and "any name is better than no > name" so they've been adding "names" that might have been in a news report > ages ago al

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread Andy Townsend
I've tended to use "name:signed=no" and/or "ref:signed=no" if there's a name or ref that is agreed to be "correct" but not useful for navigation. It's not used much: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/name%3Asigned but it does mean that you can exclude "non-useful names" from maps made wi

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
It's been a long time since I've messed much with turning OSM data into Garmin maps, but even back then the main problem was mapping the OSM data model to the Garmin data model, what kind of data to retain, what data to leave out, what data needed to be massaged before being included etc. It's more

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Kevin Morgan wrote: > It is confusing to use open street maps in my area(Central Ohio) for > driving directions since the "common names" of high ways do not match > road signs. The common names are used by open map chest for road names. > For example when turning o

[Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-08 Thread Kevin Morgan
It is confusing to use open street maps in my area(Central Ohio) for driving directions since the "common names" of high ways do not match road signs. The common names are used by open map chest for road names. For example when turning on to State Route 315 with OpenMapChest loaded on my GPS I am