Steve,
Interesting discussion. But, I have one question. After all
that, how do I code a national forest?
Charlotte
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] National Forest "nature_reserve"?
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On not-so-long-ago USFS polygons, I tagged BOTH boundary=protected_area,
leaving older landuse=forest and leisure=nature_reserve tags as they are.
When protected Wilderness, on initial creation, my tagging "soups
up" to reflect
that Wilderness/Forest distinction: a protect_class 6 and a 1b are
distinct.
Leaving existing tagging alone seems best unless it is clear a newer
method is a
better method, as now extant semantics can be easily lost.
OSM editors are good hearted, wishing to improve as we edit. I go along with
new tagging schema as I learn them and become smarter at using them, as we
should.
Wholesale removal of landuse or leisure tags? Well, now slow down.
I don't think
I heard THAT. Something about old and new styles are out there,
yes, I agree.
So, it is historical and it is emerging. I've been around in OSM to
see it happen
and participate in it over the years. Older tags getting deprecated
might speed up
that very decay cycle (even as I hit Send). Yet, leaving them
(abandoned railroads
anybody? no scratch that as rhetorical) largely as tagged now
satisfies a current
need. Co-existence and peace through conversation, what do you know?!
(Elliott Plack says we see both, I agree). We have a decent
early-21st-century fix
on more than a few USFS boundaries with landuse and leisure tags. I
see no reason
to go out of our way to remove those tags (in favor of protect_class
tag) as they
co-exist just fine. Sure, protect_class is a fine way to mean a
certain semantic.
Yet, too, "this is a forest boundary." What we (the USA, OSM's
wiki...) say a forest
is, after all. That has a certain standing to remain as is: these
are forests. Well,
as of 3.6 years ago, maybe. We get smarter as we get older, right?!
SteveA
California
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