Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities

2019-03-21 Thread Evan Derickson
I think there should be a new access tag for the "with permission only, but you are likely to get it" case. Years ago OsmAnd tried to send me on a "shortcut" through a military base while I was cycling. It turned out that I could've used the road in question *if* I had contacted the base in

Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities

2019-03-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 21, 2019, 4:11 PM by kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com: > On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 3:01 AM Mateusz Konieczny > <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > wrote: > >> For start, "residents only" gate is for me clearly access=private. >> >> "manned main gate" - is access strongly

Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities

2019-03-21 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 3:01 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > For start, "residents only" gate is for me clearly access=private. > > "manned main gate" - is access strongly restricted? > If nearly everybody, including vehicles, is let in I would tag it access=yes. > It would also mean that

Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities

2019-03-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
access=destination for inner ways for community may be also a good idea to give data to routers that transit traffic is not allowed (or access=private if there is limited or no public access at all). Though routers will use that only if there is more than one gate. As usual - additional

Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities

2019-03-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Mar 20, 2019, 11:38 PM by frede...@remote.org: > Hi, > > DWG have been contacted by a resident of a gated community in Florida. > They were unhappy about our routing which apparently leads people > through an unmanned "residents only" gate where they won't get in, > instead of to the manned

Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities

2019-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
I like this answer. Behind the gates I tend to tag as private, but giving one of the barriers access=destination should be enough for that to be the default answer for going in, if implemented. Not really something common in Oklahoma, usually gated communities have only one way in or out that

Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities

2019-03-20 Thread Evan Derickson
What about marking the resident-only gates with access=private and the guest gate as access=destination? On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 16:03 Eric H. Christensen via Talk-us < talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On

Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities

2019-03-20 Thread Eric H. Christensen via Talk-us
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:38 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Should all roads inside the gated community be access=private? I wouldn't necessarily mark all the roads as private as I think that would hinder the

[Talk-us] Gated communities

2019-03-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, DWG have been contacted by a resident of a gated community in Florida. They were unhappy about our routing which apparently leads people through an unmanned "residents only" gate where they won't get in, instead of to the manned main gate. I wonder how to deal with this, firstly from a "what

[Talk-us] Gated communities - access=private or destination?

2012-04-14 Thread Nathan Edgars II
In the U.S., a gated residential community usually allows anyone in who has a legitimate reason to be there (e.g. visiting a friend, delivering a package, repairing a TV). It seems that this fits access=destination as well as private. Would it be reasonable to tag it as such, and leave