Postal code usually means Zip code, or its non-USA equivalent, not city.
On June 25, 2014 7:20:55 AM CDT, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
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2014-06-25 12:37 GMT+02:00 Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us:
Postal cities aren't currently tagged as areas, only tag values
Postal code usually means Zip code, or its non-USA equivalent, not city.
On June 25, 2014 7:20:55 AM CDT, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
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2014-06-25 12:37 GMT+02:00 Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us:
Postal cities aren't currently tagged as areas, only tag values
On 6/26/14 3:20 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
Postal code usually means Zip code, or its non-USA equivalent, not city.
this is one of those fussy points in US geocoding.
the zip code can be mapped to the postal city, which is what is
in everyone's addresses, and is what i think most us residents
ZIP code / government addressing data expert here :)
* ZCTA = ZIP Code Tabulation Area. ZCTAs are established by the *US
Census Bureau not the US Postal Service.* ZCTAs have been established to
tabulate population statistics around an area people may identify as a
city, because there isn't an
Yes, but one postal city commonly contains multiple postal codes, so
storing the postal city in the postal code tag represents a loss of detail.
On J,une 26, 2014 2:33:12 PM CDT, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
On 6/26/14 3:20 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
Postal code usually means
On 6/26/14 3:54 PM, Elliott Plack wrote:
ZIP code / government addressing data expert here :)
and i don't disagree with you here, but my thinking about
how to go forward may be very different. more details will
be forthcoming.
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On 2014-06-24 05:52, Brian Quinion wrote:
Hi,
So from my point of view as a nominatim developer the issue is that
there are (at least?) 2 types of city in the USA.
There are administrative cities and there are postal cities. There
are also census areas, which may or may not be their own
On 6/25/14 6:37 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
Postal cities aren't currently tagged as areas, only tag values on
individual POIs and buildings. Clifford's first example is a building
that lies outside the Redmond city limits but still carries a Redmond
address, which is noted in addr:city.
Would
2014-06-25 12:37 GMT+02:00 Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us:
Postal cities aren't currently tagged as areas, only tag values on
individual POIs and buildings.
there is the key postal_code to be used on areas (and streets), I am not
sure if Nominatim evaluates it, but could be.
On 2014-06-25 05:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
there is the key postal_code to be used on areas (and streets), I am
not sure if Nominatim evaluates it, but could be.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Apostal_code
postal_code or addr:postcode are for a ZIP code itself, while addr:city
Hi,
So from my point of view as a nominatim developer the issue is that
there are (at least?) 2 types of city in the USA.
There are administrative cities and there are postal cities. There
are also census areas, which may or may not be their own category of
thing.
At the moment all of these
CDPs make for nice cartographic labeling in areas where there are no other
official towns. e.g.
http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/villeda.map-atyd5cky.html#11/39.3356/-76.5905
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us
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On 2014-06-11 09:09, Clifford Snow wrote:
On 2014-06-23 06:20, Elliott Plack wrote:
CDPs make for nice cartographic labeling in areas where there are no
other official towns. e.g.
http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/villeda.map-atyd5cky.html#11/39.3356/-76.5905
That's often true, but it's strange for Nominatim to include these names
in what
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us
wrote:
I can not search for an address in part of unincorporated King County, WA
when using the postal city.
Fails - 7732 234th Place Northeast, Redmond, WA
The search works when omitting the postal city. The search
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
I have nothing to add to the CDP discussion but that is not your problem
here. I looked at this after my own address import. This is definitely a
Nominatim issue. What happens is that Nominatim associates address points
I reported this as a bug in trac. See
https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/5190
Clifford
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On 2014-06-11 09:09, Clifford Snow wrote:
I can not search for an address in part of unincorporated King County,
WA when using the postal city.
Fails - 7732 234th Place Northeast, Redmond, WA
The search works when omitting the postal city. The search returns the
CDP, Union Hill-Novelty Hill at
I can not search for an address in part of unincorporated King County, WA
when using the postal city.
Fails - 7732 234th Place Northeast, Redmond, WA
The search works when omitting the postal city. The search returns the CDP,
Union Hill-Novelty Hill at the correct location.
Passes - 7732 234th
CDPs were (incorrectly, probably) imported several years ago, leading to
your problem.
I don't know for sure, but Nominatim probably only pays attention to
geographic containment when it comes to hierarchy information like the
city. It probably should also index the addr:city tag too.
On Jun 11,
CDPs in OSM have been an ongoing issue of discussion for a while.
NE2 stated that he would delete them all unless someone could show him
a single example of them being useful.
I pointed out that Bethesda, MD (noted for being where the NIH and the
Naval Medical Academy, along with several other
however folks may feel about CDPs, they aren't administrative government
entities and the current tagging of them with an admin_level is clearly
wrong (which Paul Norman pointed out to me a little while ago and he's
absolutely right). if we can't get them out of the database then we should
at
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net
wrote:
however folks may feel about CDPs, they aren't administrative government
entities and the current tagging of them with an admin_level is clearly
wrong (which Paul Norman pointed out to me a little while ago and he's
Clifford,
I do not like your statement in favor of deleting Bethesda from OSM.
- Serge
On Jun 11, 2014 4:21 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net
wrote:
however folks may feel about CDPs, they aren't
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not like your statement in favor of deleting Bethesda from OSM.
OK
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CDPs in OSM have been an ongoing issue of discussion for a while.
Yup, I wrote here about CDPs getting tangled up with admin_boundary
in OSM in 2012! CDPs have no effective or OSM sensible admin_level
boundary value, I think that much we have established.
NE2 stated that he would delete
On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 01:19:10 PM Clifford Snow wrote:
I think that Ian is correct that Nominatim is failing to find the address
because of the CDP boundary. But does that make Nominatim wrong or the admin
boundary?
My expectation is that Nominatim would use the CDP (or the city region
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Saikrishna Arcot saiarcot...@gmail.com
wrote:
My expectation is that Nominatim would use the CDP (or the city region
it's located in) if there is no addr:city, and either
1. would allow either the CDP and addr:city when addr:city is present,
or
2.
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