Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Millar
On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Paul Norman wrote: This is now complete for the area west of Portland Oregon as a test. http://www.paulnorman.ca/blog/?attachment_id=96 shows the difference. Nice improvement! I like it. About 99.8% of the data was untouched since it was imported. I checked the

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:52 PM To: 'Richard Welty'; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers This is the view I subscribe to too. An example of two ways I would want to join would be http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/68711710 and http

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
[mailto:jcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:48 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers I know of least one 46006 that I would consider a river (Tussahaw creek) , but doesn't have river in the name, but as bad as other NHD data I've

[Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
A mapnik rendering change has revealed a problem in some areas with NHD imported waterways. An example of the problem is at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.3lon=-123.3zoom=9layers=M Essentially, all the streams are tagged as waterway=river, with waterway=stream being used for what appear to

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread john
were, in fact, all intermittent. ---Original Email--- Subject :[Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers From :mailto:penor...@mac.com Date :Sun Mar 20 16:29:54 America/Chicago 2011 A mapnik rendering change has revealed a problem in some areas with NHD imported waterways. An example

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
...@jfeldredge.com] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 2:42 PM To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers Has anyone determined for sure that the streams you plan to tag as intermittent are so, in fact? This would require either getting confirmation from

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread James U
1 and 2 make sense to me. What criteria would you use for 2? I have done a fair bit of NHD imports and simply used the name, i.e. river, to classify rivers. Some parts of the country have different naming traditions that others. What is the rationale for 3? On Sunday, March 20,

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers 1 and 2 make sense to me. What criteria would you use for 2? I have done a fair bit of NHD imports and simply used the name, i.e. river, to classify rivers. Some parts of the country have different naming traditions that others. What is the rationale for 3

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/20/11 7:50 PM, Paul Norman wrote: 3 is about making the rivers into single ways, more like a mapper would do by hand. I'm not really set on this step and if done it would be after steps 1 and 2 have been done everywhere. Looking at nhd:com_id it might cause problems with updating, so I'm

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/20/2011 8:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 3/20/11 7:50 PM, Paul Norman wrote: 3 is about making the rivers into single ways, more like a mapper would do by hand. I'm not really set on this step and if done it would be after steps 1 and 2 have been done everywhere. Looking at nhd:com_id it

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 3/20/11 7:50 PM, Paul Norman wrote: 3 is about making the rivers into single ways, more like a mapper would do by hand. I'm not really set on

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Mike N
On 3/20/2011 8:18 PM, Ian Dees wrote: There were several clients that did not attempt to connect the ways of each NHD linestring so there are duplicated nodes and ways that touch but aren't joined. Hopefully fixing this is what Paul was talking about. Agreed - this is a safe case of

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:18 PM, Ian Dees wrote: There were several clients that did not attempt to connect the ways of each NHD linestring so there are duplicated nodes and ways that touch but aren't joined. Hopefully fixing this is what

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/20/2011 9:12 PM, Richard Welty wrote: if combining them meaningfully improves the map, by all means do it. Or improves editing. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
Message- From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 5:38 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers On 3/20/11 8:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: d suggest using