Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Mark Newnham
: Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.gov To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag? Yes. If a campsite is on a lake shore, or an island, and the only way to get there is by boat, I don’t see how sac_scale

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Mike Thompson
Yes. If a campsite is on a lake shore, or an island, and the only way to get there is by boat, I don’t see how sac_scale depicts that information If the campsite is on an island, then I feel that no additional tagging is necessary. If it is on shore, and the land around it is too dangerous, that

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 26.07.2013 um 14:17 schrieb Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com: I haven't seen sac_scale used on an area, but it seems reasonable -1, it is clearly thought and defined for (osm-)highways and not for an area. There are usually several possibilities where to cross an area, especially if

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Tod Fitch
While I can't point to an example, I believe I've seen some state park campsites that actually have a legal restriction against being accessed by land. It might be that the terrain is considered too dangerous (park does not want to assume liability for injuries), too ecologically sensitive or

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/26 Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com While I can't point to an example, I believe I've seen some state park campsites that actually have a legal restriction against being accessed by land. It might be that the terrain is considered too dangerous (park does not want to assume liability for

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Mike Thompson
IMHO it isn't an attribute of the campsite but an attribute of the areas in front of it. agree (if by areas in front you mean the non water areas) On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen sac_scale used on an area, but it seems

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/7/26 Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com If we want to make the map explicit as to the difficulty of foot travel, then we should have a tag that can be applied to an area indicating this. Perhaps it isn't sac_scale, but we should have something. the only established tags for areas I am

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Mike Thompson
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: the only established tags for areas I am aware of are natural=scrub and natural=wetland with sub tags (swamp, etc.), maybe this can be further refined if required (density), or we can come up with new tags

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Thomas Colson
Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:44 PM Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US Subject: Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag? On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: the only established tags for areas I

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-07-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.govwrote: The intent is to convey what mode of travel is appropriate or “authorized” for each of 100+ campsites. Many are hiker-only, easily solved by “horse=no”, some are horse and hiker, a very few are hiker, horse, and

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-06-27 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.gov wrote: I’m tagging some camp sites as “boat=yes” to imply water access only, but I don’t think this is right. Is there a water-only access tag? What information are you trying to record? access= generally informs of a legal

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-06-27 Thread Thomas Colson
By foot, impossible and serious injury if attempted. -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:08 PM To: Thomas Colson Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag

Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-06-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Access=no, boat=yes? On Jun 25, 2013 6:01 PM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.gov wrote: I’m tagging some camp sites as “boat=yes” to imply water access only, but I don’t think this is right. Is there a water-only access tag? ___ Talk-us

[Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?

2013-06-25 Thread Thomas Colson
I'm tagging some camp sites as boat=yes to imply water access only, but I don't think this is right. Is there a water-only access tag? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us