On 9/16/2011 9:07 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
The disney employee discussion points out that while
access_permission=customer is a relatively straightforward concept,
access_permission=private conveys only
If you don't have some special agreement, you can't go here.
but doesn't encode the set of
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
So we could take the existing tags, where =customer is perhasp not
existing, and have a hierarchy:
access=yes
access=destination
access=permissive (no legal right, but not objected to)
*access=customers
access=private (no
On 9/15/2011 10:19 PM, Anthony wrote:
Also, I couldn't find any such sign going in the other direction.
Even if this were access=destination, it would be a unidirectional
access=destination.
If you go the other direction you have to either pass through the main
gate on World Drive or pass one
* Anthony o...@inbox.org [2011-09-15 22:19 -0400]:
Incidenally, for some reason Lulu-Ann put the example of customer
parking lots in the wiki for access=destination, but I'd say this
completely changes the original intent of access=destination. Only a
few months ago the wiki said
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
As I've said on the wiki, I'd rather see
access=restricted plus access:restriction=customers_only, this way we
can give routers general information (that the way is restricted to a
particular category) without having them
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
The US doesn't seem to have the strict legal categories for rights-of-way
that the UK does
I'm not sure what you mean by that, as I'm not familiar with UK law.
But the US definitely has a concept of public right of way vs.
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
The US doesn't seem to have the strict legal categories for rights-of-way
that the UK does
I'm not sure what you mean by that, as I'm not familiar with UK law.
But the US definitely has a
On 9/14/2011 10:50 PM, Bill Ricker wrote:
And the sweep of Victory makes it not a useful shortcut to anywhere.
I assume you mean Vista? Anyway, it could be used as a shortcut, but not
much shorter than CR 535: http://g.co/maps/6uzx9
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote:
On 9/14/2011 10:50 PM, Bill Ricker wrote:
And the sweep of Victory makes it not a useful shortcut to anywhere.
I assume you mean Vista? Anyway, it could be used as a shortcut, but not
much shorter than CR 535:
On 9/15/2011 8:25 AM, Bill Ricker wrote:
Right, from almost everywhere to almost everywhere, 535 would be better
than Vista. As long as the marked cast-member-only section of World Blvd
is access=private, routing should avoid it.
Is this still marked cast only? I haven't been on World Drive
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote:
So this could be access=destination , which should allow routing at ends but
not for thru traffic.
Well, that's not at all what the sign says.
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On 9/15/2011 9:50 AM, Anthony wrote:
The sign does not say you may use the road so long as you need it to
get to your destination (access=destination). That would preclude
cast members as using it as a cut-through alternative to World Drive.
And it would permit its use by solicitors,
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote:
Is this still marked cast only? I haven't been on World Drive there in
years, but I do know that as of last weekend the entrance from Reams i
I'll try to remember to look at signage on World Dr at Contemporary Dr when
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/15/2011 9:50 AM, Anthony wrote:
The sign does not say you may use the road so long as you need it to
get to your destination (access=destination). That would preclude
cast members as using it as a cut-through
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
We're trying to figure out whether this sign restricts the use of the
road, or if it's BS:
It asserts their right to uninvite someone who provokes them and then order
them to leave, on pain of arrest for tresspass.
The sign
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes, although the removal of the guard does make it possible to avoid the
main gate and parking fee by making the whole loop and turning around at the
Car Care Center (guests includes all theme park visitors).
A
Disney runs its own Reedy Creek Planning District (and Fire Dept], so some
records from the 1960's and 1970's might not be in OC's system; building
permits are filled with OC, but Land Use may not be in the system you're
looking at. Waste/Submerged would be correct status in 1960 prior to Disney
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote:
The thru-roads across WDW property might or might not be registered as
Public Right of Way against the deeds, but have been open to the public for
up to 40 years.
What is the goal here ?
We're trying to figure out
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote:
Waste/Submerged would be correct status in 1960 prior to Disney
development, not current status. Sounds like that website is not current
source for Reedy Creek documents.
By the way, the particular parcel of land being
On 9/13/2011 8:34 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/12/2011 7:17 PM, Anthony wrote:
The fact that the land is owned by Walt Disney Parks does not preclude
the fact that they have granted a right of way through it.
According to
On 9/13/2011 8:58 AM, Bill Ricker wrote:
The thru-roads across WDW property might or might not be registered as
Public Right of Way against the deeds, but have been open to the public
for up to 40 years.
Not this one. There was a guard booth on Vista Boulevard near the
present location of the
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
There was a guard booth on Vista Boulevard near the present
location of the sign until about 2005.
And now I get it. This road could be used to bypass the main entrance
toll booth on World Drive, and doesn't seem to
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