Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Bryan Housel
There is an open item in iD to display the date of the aerial imagery alongside the attribution message. We actually don’t get this from most tile providers, but we can get it from Bing in the response header. Would definitely welcome a pull request if someone wants to take a shot at

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Kam, Kristen
We need to make it more easier to load up-to-date imagery to our OSM editing applications. And I think something easy as publicizing the date of the imagery collection would get folks to do a double take before using older imagery. Kristen Sent from OWA on Android

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-06-11 Thread Simon Poole
Randy, I just want to point out that there is an existing and well established OSM-based service that already supplies worldwide boundaries in a number of formats https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/ . Further the operator runs daily quality checks on changes in the boundaries. Simon Am

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/15 10:05 AM, Kam, Kristen wrote: We need to make it more easier to load up-to-date imagery to our OSM editing applications. And I think something easy as publicizing the date of the imagery collection would get folks to do a double take before using older imagery. i am not

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Thompson
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i'd like a tag that we could use that has some editor support, it might be the case that all we need is a pop up dialog when there's a README tag that says something like Read this before committing: text of

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-06-11 Thread Randy Meech
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Randy Meech randy.me...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Seattle has very defined neighborhoods and even sub-neighborhoods. The prior discussions kept us from adding the boundaries. Maybe it is

[Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
please, please when doing the armchair mapping thing, be aware that aerial imagery may be several years out of date. yesterday i discovered that a highway reconfiguration i'd mapped in Rensselaer, NY had been realigned with the out-of-date bing aerial imagery. i was able to locate my GPX tracks

[Talk-us] SOTM-US - Great Videos!

2015-06-11 Thread Mike N
I couldn't make it to SOTM-US because of time constraints, but wanted to thank the sponsors and all who made the great videos! http://stateofthemap.us/program/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: The readme tag is more of a bandaid. A better way might be to capture the image date as a tag. The editor could then issue a warning message if the image date is older than the feature being modified. The readme

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/11/15 18:46, Mike N wrote: I've seen this problem also - an area marked for construction, all roads bulldozed out, - the roads re-appear due to a TIGEROSM comparison test because they're in Bing. An area where all buildings are demolished and a single large entity takes

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Mike N
On 6/11/2015 12:46 PM, Mike N wrote: I've seen this problem also - an area marked for construction, all roads bulldozed out, - the roads re-appear due to a TIGEROSM comparison test because they're in Bing. Speaking of which, one of those came back to life yesterday. I tried the README

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread James Mast
Maybe we should invite the MapBox paid mappers to join in this conversation? They are the major people doing this. -James Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:10:58 -0400 From: nice...@att.net To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers On 6/11/2015 12:46 PM,

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-06-11 Thread Simon Poole
It supports at least down to level 11, simply click on the entries and it will display sub-boundaries and so on. Not that there isn't room for further parallel services, but this wasn't actually a vacuum :-). In particular anything helping improving boundaries in the US is a good thing. Simon

[Talk-us] Fwd: Re: a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Hello, Making imagery more up-to-date won't solve the problem. The real problem is that OSM never communicates with its members, expecially not with those armchair mappers who do it recreationally. They are not reading the email lists, which are mostly geeky and obsessed with

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-06-11 Thread Randy Meech
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: I just want to point out that there is an existing and well established OSM-based service that already supplies worldwide boundaries in a number of formats https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/ . Yes -- unless I'm

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Another useful tool might be to have a repository of local imagery servers that can automatically become available when in an appropriate area. For instance, I use the 2014 NAIP imagery via a WMS server in JOSM. It’s only 1m resolution, but it’s great for double checking that nothing has

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Ian Dees
Such a thing exists and is here: https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index It is used by iD and Potlatch, with JOSM output available but not installed by default. I'm happy to help anyone add their imagery. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote:

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Making imagery more up-to-date won't solve the problem. The real problem is that OSM never communicates with its members, expecially not with those armchair mappers who do it recreationally. They are

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/15 12:46 PM, Mike N wrote: My current strategy is to leave the original objects, just remove all tagging except for a note about Bing imagery dated is out of date. i did this with a slip ramp from I-90 nearby that was removed when a roundabout was put in; i had removed the

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Shouldn’t be too hard to add this: https://github.com/rjhale1971/NAIP_WMS https://github.com/rjhale1971/NAIP_WMS Unfortunately, the WMS server seems to be misbehaving right now. I sent a note to what I hope are the right people about that. d. On Jun 11, 2015, at 08:43, Ian Dees

[Talk-us] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
this is a summary of previous discussion on newbies talk-us we have an ongoing, persistent problem with armchair mappers correcting the map to match out of date aerial imagery. i just had to repair the map in Rensselaer, NY; the street named Broadway was reconfigured in late 2012, and bing

Re: [Talk-us] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 13:27 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: so i have two things in mind here: 1) formalize the README tag as a way to caution future mappers 2) request editor support, when someone goes to change a README tagged entity, it would be nice if editors would popup a dialog saying

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/15 1:27 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: Shouldn’t be too hard to add this: https://github.com/rjhale1971/NAIP_WMS Unfortunately, the WMS server seems to be misbehaving right now. I sent a note to what I hope are the right people about that. i had found Randy's page back when Darrell

Re: [Talk-us] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: 1) formalize the README tag as a way to caution future mappers 2) request editor support, when someone goes to change a README tagged entity, it would be nice if editors would popup a dialog saying something along

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
Yes, it has. I was using it not all that long ago. I’m sure it’s just a temporary outage. d. On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:59, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 6/11/15 1:27 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: Shouldn’t be too hard to add this: https://github.com/rjhale1971/NAIP_WMS