Re: [Talk-us] Abbreviation expansion - USS to United States Ship?

2012-05-10 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 12:33 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Is this a good idea? It looks really odd to me: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/9061339 I agree that it looks odd. Expand Drive perhaps, but expanding all of it looks rather awkward. -- Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com

Re: [Talk-us] Abbreviation expansion - USS to United States Ship?

2012-05-10 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/10/12 12:39 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 12:33 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Is this a good idea? It looks really odd to me: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/9061339 I agree that it looks odd. Expand Drive perhaps, but expanding all of it looks rather awkward.

Re: [Talk-us] Abbreviation expansion - USS to United States Ship?

2012-05-10 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Is this a good idea? It looks really odd to me: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/9061339 I bet that no one actually says United States

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Dale Puch
Sorry, I should have been clearer, the results I posted were from my quick test. I just wanted to report the abbreviations I saw as possible additions to the list in Serge's script. And to give an idea of which showed up most either for scripting or if someone wanted to handle the lesser used

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Anthony
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote: As a quick and dirty test I took Florida and Illinois road data from cloudmade.  A simple replace of the top 7 or so suffixes at the end of the name an with a space in front of it resulted in over 700,000 name changes for

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Mike N
On 5/10/2012 9:48 PM, Anthony wrote: You seem to be assuming all the changes are positive. I didn't take it that way - it was just a quick test for orders of magnitude. An actual script takes more review. What happened to the on the ground rule, anyway? That already doesn't

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Mike N
On 5/10/2012 10:19 PM, Anthony wrote: What I'm questioning is why it doesn't apply. If the people call it Whatever Ave, shouldn't the data read Whatever Ave? Most of the US wouldn't call it 'Whatever Ave'; when spoken, it would be 'Avenue'. Having it expanded makes programs with spoken

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Anthony
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 5/10/2012 10:19 PM, Anthony wrote: What I'm questioning is why it doesn't apply.  If the people call it Whatever Ave, shouldn't the data read Whatever Ave?  Most of the US wouldn't call it 'Whatever Ave'; when spoken, it

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Mike N
On 5/10/2012 10:40 PM, Anthony wrote: Depends on what street you're talking about. I've certainly lived in places where the vast majority of the locals called it Whatever Ave, and not Whatever Avenue. Most of the US...wouldn't talk about the street at all. But you wouldn't be confused if

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Dale Puch
The issue with abbreviations is very muddy. BUT it has been said many time that we do not want to abbreviate where possible. There are several reasons. - Clarity! The abbreviations are just that, they mean the full word, and are spoken that way, but written and displayed as the

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Dale Puch
I think I came up with a rare possibility for error. The original st something st was manually expanded to st something street your checking for a single st, and there would be. Or am I missing another check? I can't think of any other situations besides Saint and Street like this. Possibly