Re: [Talk-us] Trouble with getting Superior National Forest

2020-09-02 Thread brad
I'm with Kevin, SteveA, etc,  here.   In the part of the world that I live, a map without national forest & BLM boundaries is very incomplete.   A useful OSM needs this.   The useful boundary would be the actual ownership boundary, not the outer potential ownership boundary.   Messy, I know.

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI [parcel ownership]

2020-09-02 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 5:34 PM Doug Peterson < dougpeter...@dpeters2.dyndns.org> wrote: > That is made up of two properties. The southern, larger square is owned by > Thomas & Jane Griffith. The northern, smaller square is owned by the John & > Jane Griffith. The other square to the west of that,

Re: [Talk-us] Unintentional improvements in OSM data influencing / improving other databases

2020-09-02 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:48 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > But if we are talking about legal parcel boundaries or legal protected > area boundaries, or administrative limits, then it's not at all possible > for OpenStreetMap users to resolve these conflicts in our database alone. > > What needs to

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI [parcel ownership]

2020-09-02 Thread Doug Peterson
That is made up of two properties. The southern, larger square is owned by Thomas & Jane Griffith. The northern, smaller square is owned by the John & Jane Griffith. The other square to the west of that, not included, is owned by John & Jane Griffith. That is just ownership. That does not say wh

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Karson Sommer
https://mgis.coleman-engineering.com/web/ shows the parcel in question being privately owned. On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 12:27 PM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > the DWG has been asked to remove this bit of land > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/146418027#map=13/47.3306/-88.4441 > > from the "Coope

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Correct, sorry, my mistake! On 9/2/20 20:02, Kerry Irons wrote: > It's Copper Country, not Cooper Country.  > > Kerry Irons  > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 1:55 PM Kevin Kenny > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:47 PM Joseph Eisenberg > mailto:joseph.e

Re: [Talk-us] Unintentional improvements in OSM data influencing / improving other databases

2020-09-02 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
RE: "Many government and agency data sources are in conflict with each other over the same information; OSM can serve to provide "resolved" versions that are confirmed with ground observation where required." Similar thoughts have been expressed previously in this thread. But if we are talking ab

Re: [Talk-us] Unintentional improvements in OSM data influencing / improving other databases

2020-09-02 Thread Bradley White
> > I echo this sentiment exactly as having taken place in California and in > my experiences with OSM. This is most certainly a longer-term endeavor > (over several, even many years), but improvements in alignments between > data components which have been entered into OSM from my County GIS, > G

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Kerry Irons
It's Copper Country, not Cooper Country. Kerry Irons On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 1:55 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:47 PM Joseph Eisenberg < > joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My goodness, look at that monstrosity: >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1976405#map=

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:47 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > My goodness, look at that monstrosity: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1976405#map=8/46.459/-87.627 > > How can we claim that all of these patches of state-owned land constitute > a single OpenStreetMap feature? > Because they s

Re: [Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
My goodness, look at that monstrosity: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1976405#map=8/46.459/-87.627 How can we claim that all of these patches of state-owned land constitute a single OpenStreetMap feature? -- Joseph Eisenberg On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:27 AM Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, >

Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 153, Issue 22 OSM-US local chapter application (Joost Schouppe [OSMF secretary])

2020-09-02 Thread Maggie Cawley
> > Hi All, > Community consultation for the OpenStreetMap US application to become a local > chapter of OSMF [OSMF secretary])>ends on September 5. It would be great to hear from > more community members, so if you have time and interes

[Talk-us] Cooper Country State Forest in Keweenaw County, MI

2020-09-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, the DWG has been asked to remove this bit of land https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/146418027#map=13/47.3306/-88.4441 from the "Cooper Country State Forest" protected area since it has been purchased from the state by private individuals in 2006 and "the recent plat books show this". I have

[Talk-us] Unintentional improvements in OSM data influencing / improving other databases

2020-09-02 Thread stevea
On September 1, 2020 at 8:07:46 AM PDT, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > In many of these cases OSM has an opportunity to improve the government data. > A mapper can analyze the conflict, sort out the different data sources, > perhaps visit the site in the field, and produce a result that is more > ac