Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Settlements which are mapped with the place=* key are usually mapped as a node, not as an area. There are many place=city areas in the USA, but that's because the tag was incorrectly added to many municipal boundaries when they were first imported, years ago. Some neighborhoods have well-defined

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 9:27 PM stevea wrote: > On Sep 22, 2020, at 7:05 PM, Clifford Snow > wrote: > > For example, in Seattle I lived in the Wallingford Neighborhood. Seattle > has defined boundaries for each of the neighborhoods. In other areas, > neighborhoods are roughly defined by people

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:56 PM stevea wrote: > If you MUST tag place=neighbourhood (note the u) see if you agree with me > that this tag makes most sense in a hierarchy where place=suburb (and > perhaps quarter, if applicable, is/are above) also exist(s). I'm not > strictly saying I believe

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread stevea
On Sep 22, 2020, at 7:05 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > For example, in Seattle I lived in the Wallingford Neighborhood. Seattle has > defined boundaries for each of the neighborhoods. In other areas, > neighborhoods are roughly defined by people living there. In those cases > using a place= tag

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread stevea
Whoops, "but NOT if it isn't something like a council" SteveA ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread stevea
Clifford: I certainly agree with you if (and likely only if) there is something like a neighborhood council that actually has some sort of "administrative" function (which could be as "lowly" as dog catcher, mosquito abatement, or "sub-municipal parks department for these three neighborhood

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Clifford Snow
Steve, If the boundaries exist, you could use admin_level=10. Most of the neighborhoods I'm familiar with are just small subdivisions within the city. For example, in Seattle I lived in the Wallingford Neighborhood. Seattle has defined boundaries for each of the neighborhoods. In other areas,

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread stevea
If you MUST tag place=neighbourhood (note the u) see if you agree with me that this tag makes most sense in a hierarchy where place=suburb (and perhaps quarter, if applicable, is/are above) also exist(s). I'm not strictly saying I believe that place=neighbourhood CANNOT exist without

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:36 PM Mike N wrote: > On 9/22/2020 9:26 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > The extra hamlet nodes are import remainders that haven't yet > been > > converted to landuse areas. The general landuse zones for that area > > have been identified, but do not

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Mike N
On 9/22/2020 9:26 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:    The extra hamlet nodes are import remainders that haven't yet been converted to landuse areas.   The general landuse zones for that area have been identified, but do not exactly correspond to the named subdivisions.   As I get a

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:20 PM Mike N wrote: > On 9/22/2020 8:56 PM, Karson Sommer wrote: > > > > Looking around the area of the edit, there is a lot of stuff from my > > perspective that seems fishy. There are a bunch of place=hamlet nodes? I > > certainly don't see anything that should be

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Mike N
On 9/22/2020 8:56 PM, Karson Sommer wrote: Looking around the area of the edit, there is a lot of stuff from my perspective that seems fishy. There are a bunch of place=hamlet nodes? I certainly don't see anything that should be tagged as a hamlet, they all look like place=neighborhood to

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread stevea
I'm harmonious with Minh's comments in the changeset. The place key, with value suburb, has quite specific meanings, I don't think these are those. And as we don't or shouldn't be truly precise and especially not authoritative with "legal subdivisions," I think the "more informal" nature of

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 7:14 PM Mike N wrote: > Thoughts on use of place=neighborhood for subdivisions? > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/91255294 > >Note that there are many thousands already tagged this way (5000 plus > in a section of the southeast alone). I'd consider a

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Karson Sommer
I agree with the way it was already mapped. Subdivisions should be mapped as areas tagged with landuse=residential, place=neighborhood, and name=* if it is named. Looking around the area of the edit, there is a lot of stuff from my perspective that seems fishy. There are a bunch of place=hamlet

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Joshua Carlson
I’ve seen it used that way. I don’t see anything wrong with it, so long as it’s actually a named place that people would refer to, as opposed to a cadastral unit. If the subdivision has one of those signs at the entrance, or locals know what you mean when someone says they live in “Hickory Creek”,

[Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Mike N
Thoughts on use of place=neighborhood for subdivisions? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/91255294 Note that there are many thousands already tagged this way (5000 plus in a section of the southeast alone). ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] United States Bicycle Route System ballot(s) pending AASHTO approval

2020-09-22 Thread stevea
I have added a one-line addition to our USBRS wiki suggesting that some aspect of Lifecycle_prefix (with a link to that wiki) include into USBRS route proposals something like "proposed:route=bicycle" in addition to state=proposed, while welcoming further suggestions and refinements. Thanks,

Re: [Talk-us] United States Bicycle Route System ballot(s) pending AASHTO approval

2020-09-22 Thread Kerry Irons
Yes, for USBR 201 we essentially followed the ECGW. This made for some less-than-direct segments, but that was what the locals wanted. But that does not mean that the route shown on OSM Cycle is proposed USBR 201. Only when you see the 201 tag on the map will this be the case. Kerry

Re: [Talk-us] United States Bicycle Route System ballot(s) pending AASHTO approval

2020-09-22 Thread stevea
On Sep 22, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: > Great work getting these into the map already Steve! I work on the MDOT bike > team (as a GIS consultant) so it is great to see this on the map so quickly. Thank you, Elliott; nice to see your reply! I agree about "so quickly:" I posted a

[Talk-us] maps missing attribution on usnews.com

2020-09-22 Thread Adam Franco
I was just reading through the recent US News & World Report college rankings and saw my OSM handiwork in their maps locating each school, but without any attribution. Tiles look to be served from their own domain. Example: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/middlebury-college-3691 - Map in