Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-17 Thread Mark Wagner 
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 02:13:46 -0500
Aaron Forsythe  wrote:

> zip codes – Zip codes are USPS routing codes.  They do not align to
> cities and may even cross over each other often.  USPS only uses the
> city field on mail as a backup to zip codes.  They fudge the cities
> intentionally to make it easier on their sorting machines.  I’d be
> cautious when getting city data from USPS based on zip codes.

"City" on a USPS address isn't the city, and never has been.  It's the
name of the sorting office.  This usually corresponds to the name of
the city (and for places with only one post office, the name of the
post office), but not always.  For unincorporated areas, it's usually
the same as the name of the nearest incorporated area, but not always:
unincorporated areas can still get post offices.

Postal Zip codes are point clouds, not areas (and Zip+4 codes even more
so).  Census zip codes are areas, but they've only got a rough
correspondence to the postal codes.

-- 
Mark

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Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-17 Thread Aaron Forsythe 
I would just like to point out two things.

addr:unit – I get there are a lot of tall buildings where this isn’t useful in 
Miami.  It is useful for large footprint buildings to know what entrance to 
park by.  Sometimes around here (unsure of in Miami) one address will even 
serve multiple buildings.  For instance at a hospital there may be 3 buildings 
containing doctors offices with the same address.

zip codes – Zip codes are USPS routing codes.  They do not align to cities and 
may even cross over each other often.  USPS only uses the city field on mail as 
a backup to zip codes.  They fudge the cities intentionally to make it easier 
on their sorting machines.  I’d be cautious when getting city data from USPS 
based on zip codes.
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Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-14 Thread Leif Rasmussen 
Another update on the address data:
I managed to do the address data transformation by splitting the data up
into five files.  The data is now in ready to upload OSM format (except for
data errors).  All duplicates of existing addresses in the OSM database
have automatically been removed, leaving only missing addresses in the
dataset.  This means that the data could be uploaded to the OSM database
without creating duplicate addresses.
The data is available here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DJGNdONqdTXMlA0e550ghsmpotqc4QM4

I split it up into five manageable files with roughly 100,000 points in
each.
The data itself has some minor issues.
1) Many "addr:city" tags are missing.  These can be added in manually
before upload by selecting all addresses with a certain postcode and adding
the city to them.  In the US, postcodes usually only have one city
associated with them, so adding the missing addr:city tags is much easier
because of this.
2) Some other tags are missing from about 50 addresses.  They don't have
"addr:street", "addr:postcode", or "addr:city".  Just "addr:housenumber"
and "addr:state".
Other than that, the data looks great!
I will fix up the wiki page and contact the imports mailing list sometime
this weekend if I can.

Levente Juhász,
Manually adding the addresses would take way too long.  Instead, a tasking
manager project should be created for organizing address upload.  If the
uploader wants, they can merge the data with existing features such as
buildings, but this is not required.  An upload without merging would
simply add all missing addresses around the existing ones.  I was thinking
that the tasks be about 5,000 - 10,000 addresses each.  This should allow
for quick and easy upload, even if Miami does not have very many
contributors interested in helping.
Thanks,
Leif Rasmussen
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Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-14 Thread Levente Juhász 
Great stuff, Leif! I will catch up with this project over the weekend and
will provide some input.

I have access to a few workstations with a bunch of memory so I can help
out with converting/processing the input data if needed. Just let me know.
I don't think of the size of these datasets as an issue in terms of
processing (not even the buildings). As you said, splitting them up into
smaller chunks or using a totally different toolset would also work.

Finding enough people to review and put the data on the map will be a
bigger issue in Miami, imho. You guys are planning to implement an entirely
manual approach, correct?

Cheers,
Levente



On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 4:06 PM Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Update on the address data:
> I tried transforming the small data file (550,000 addresses) to OSM
> format, but my computer ran out of memory.  I will try using a more
> powerful computer later.  The transformation worked perfectly on a smaller
> file of 8000 addresses in Miami Beach, however.  I uploaded that sample
> file to a google drive folder
> .
> Simply download the file and drag and drop it into JOSM to view that
> addresses.  The address data source only had "addr:city" for some of the
> addresses, so that tag will have to be added manually based on postcode
> later.
> Thanks,
> Leif Rasmussen
>
> Also, the addresses with numbered street names (4th Street) have not been
> expanded (to eg. "Fourth Street").  The roads in OSM currently have the
> numbered versions (4th Street), so I will just leave the addresses like
> they are now.
>
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:42 AM mangokm40 
> wrote:
>
>> Mr. Rasmussen,
>>
>> Thanks for the offer!  I definitely need help. :)
>>
>> I looked, and failed to find, the layer without unit#.  That's what I
>> thought would be preferred.  Thanks
>> for spotting it.  I don't see why we would search for a specific unit on
>> a map.  When I navigate, I would
>> just want directions to "1234 NW 33rd Ct", not "1234 NW 33rd Ct Apt 6".
>> If you know
>> of a good reason for the unit #s, let me know.  It doesn't matter to me,
>> since I don't need navigation in
>> Miami.  :D
>> If you think 600k points is big, imagine the building footprints. :)
>>  It's available, if required.  Heck, they
>> even make a 3d building layer available.  But I don't think we'll enjoy
>> the size.
>>
>> I knew the license is not a problem.  However, I saved that email just in
>> case it comes up.
>>
>> I'm going to read the info Mr. Juhász provided.  Unfortunately, I'm way
>> behind here.
>> Also, I replied to all b/c I think that's what I'm supposed to do.
>> However, I don't want to 'bug' people on
>> the list.  Hopefully, someone will let me know if this needs to go
>> off-list.
>>
>>
>> (_8'()
>>
>>
>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:17 PM, Leif Rasmussen <
>> 354...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mango,
>> I have quite a lot of experience with address imports, and would love to
>> help with Miami.  I have visited Miami several times, and have grown a
>> liking for it.  Adding addresses there would be a real pleasure.
>> There appears to be two address data sets - one with "addr:unit", and one
>> without.  The one with "addr:unit" addresses
>> 
>>  has 1,166,445
>> points, and the one without
>> 
>> has 586,171 points.  Both of these should be considered.  I would suggest
>> importing the one with condos, or "addr:unit" features if the quality is
>> good.  Otherwise, I think that the dataset without addr:unit should be
>> imported.
>> Also, the license seems OK.  According to the Miami-Dade County
>> Buildings Import
>> ,
>> the license is public domain, which they claim is true of all government
>> produced data in Florida.
>> The only issue I see with the data is the size.  My laptop took 5 minutes
>> to open the address points (including addr:unit, so 1,166,445 nodes) and
>> more than 20 minutes to edit a single key.  This could be worked around,
>> though, by splitting up the data.
>> I created a wiki page for the import
>> ,
>> which is a step of the Import Guidelines
>> . Sending a
>> proposal to the local community and imports mailing list will also be
>> needed.
>> I hope that this import will end up working out!
>> Leif Rasmussen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> (_8'()
>>
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> On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:17 PM, Leif Rasmussen

Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-13 Thread mangokm40 
Mr. Rasmussen,

Thanks for the offer!  I definitely need help. :)

I looked, and failed to find, the layer without unit#.  That's what I thought 
would be preferred.  Thanks
for spotting it.  I don't see why we would search for a specific unit on a map. 
 When I navigate, I would
just want directions to "1234 NW 33rd Ct", not "1234 NW 33rd Ct Apt 6".  If you 
know
of a good reason for the unit #s, let me know.  It doesn't matter to me, since 
I don't need navigation in
Miami.  :D
If you think 600k points is big, imagine the building footprints. :)  It's 
available, if required.  Heck, they
even make a 3d building layer available.  But I don't think we'll enjoy the 
size.

I knew the license is not a problem.  However, I saved that email just in case 
it comes up.

I'm going to read the info Mr. Juhász provided.  Unfortunately, I'm way behind 
here.
Also, I replied to all b/c I think that's what I'm supposed to do.  However, I 
don't want to 'bug' people on
the list.  Hopefully, someone will let me know if this needs to go off-list.

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On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:17 PM, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Hi Mango,
> I have quite a lot of experience with address imports, and would love to help 
> with Miami.  I have visited Miami several times, and have grown a liking for 
> it.  Adding addresses there would be a real pleasure.
> There appears to be two address data sets - one with "addr:unit", and one 
> without.  The [one with "addr:unit" 
> addresses](https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo?geometry=-80.369%2C25.708%2C-80.365%2C25.709)
>  has 1,166,445 points, and the [one 
> without](https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/eef6b33da60d47c0964387960c840eea_0?geometry=-80.274%2C25.715%2C-80.272%2C25.715)
>  has 586,171 points.  Both of these should be considered.  I would suggest 
> importing the one with condos, or "addr:unit" features if the quality is 
> good.  Otherwise, I think that the dataset without addr:unit should be 
> imported.
> Also, the license seems OK.  According to the [Miami-Dade County Buildings 
> Import](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County_Large_Building_Import#Import%20Data),
>  the license is public domain, which they claim is true of all government 
> produced data in Florida.
> The only issue I see with the data is the size.  My laptop took 5 minutes to 
> open the address points (including addr:unit, so 1,166,445 nodes) and more 
> than 20 minutes to edit a single key.  This could be worked around, though, 
> by splitting up the data.
> I created a [wiki page for the 
> import](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County_Address_Import),
>  which is a step of the [Import 
> Guidelines](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines). Sending a 
> proposal to the local community and imports mailing list will also be needed.
> I hope that this import will end up working out!
> Leif Rasmussen

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On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:17 PM, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Hi Mango,
> I have quite a lot of experience with address imports, and would love to help 
> with Miami.  I have visited Miami several times, and have grown a liking for 
> it.  Adding addresses there would be a real pleasure.
> There appears to be two address data sets - one with "addr:unit", and one 
> without.  The [one with "addr:unit" 
> addresses](https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo?geometry=-80.369%2C25.708%2C-80.365%2C25.709)
>  has 1,166,445 points, and the [one 
> without](https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/eef6b33da60d47c0964387960c840eea_0?geometry=-80.274%2C25.715%2C-80.272%2C25.715)
>  has 586,171 points.  Both of these should be considered.  I would suggest 
> importing the one with condos, or "addr:unit" features if the quality is 
> good.  Otherwise, I think that the dataset without addr:unit should be 
> imported.
> Also, the license seems OK.  According to the [Miami-Dade County Buildings 
> Import](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County_Large_Building_Import#Import%20Data),
>  the license is public domain, which they claim is true of all government 
> produced data in Florida.
> The only issue I see with the data is the size.  My laptop took 5 minutes to 
> open the address points (including addr:unit, so 1,166,445 nodes) and more 
> than 20 minutes to edit a single key.  This could be worked around, though, 
> by splitting up the data.
> I created a [wiki page for the 
> import](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County_Address_Import),
>  which is a step of the [Import 
> Guidelines](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines). Sending a 
> proposal to the local community and imports mailing list will also be needed.
> I hope that this import will end up working out!
> Leif

Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-12 Thread Brian May 
I would like to help as well. I've been mapping in Florida for many 
moons, live in SE FL, and would like to get involved in imports. I think 
we should consider merging the addresses with the Microsoft buildings. 
As Leif mentioned, buildings from Miami-Dade county have been imported, 
but they are incomplete.


Some of the condo buildings have over 100 units. When searching for an 
address, IMHO, unit is not important when dealing with a tall building. 
My vote is to not consider units because it just clutters the database.


Data in FL is public domain, unless exempted by FL Statutes. Refer to 
Chapter 119 - 
www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute=0100-0199/0119/0119.html


I've also been thinking about how to get more POIs into OSM in bulk 
utilizing existing government data that "theoretically" should be pretty 
accurate. For eample, Florida requires every business submit a tangible 
tax return. What this means is every single business in FL has a record 
in the tangible tax file that includes a site address, NAICS code, owner 
name, etc. Some have parcel IDs as well.  At the very least, we could 
map NAICS codes to OSM feature types like amenity=restaurant. In 
addition, I have all parcels for the state of Florida which include land 
use types. This could be used to add land use info to buildings as well, 
if its residential or not a business listed in the tangible file. We 
could go even further by referencing other GIS layers available from 
Miami-Dade like schools, hospitals, fire stations, etc. Basically, look 
into utilizing more data sets and some overlay queries to add to the 
known information about each building. A first step may be to merge all 
the relevant various Miami-Dade point layers into one master POI data set.


So just thinking out loud here. I've been a manual mapper for years, but 
focused mostly on road improvements, water, and a few other basic 
things. But I'm a GIS guy and have been wanting to put the power of GIS 
and existing GIS data to use for a while to go beyond the "basic" import 
for POIs and buildings.


I know there's a lot of existing OSM data to contend with and this 
should be a two step process, e.g. don't blindly place data on top of 
data, but rather first pass is greenfield where no buildings exist and 
second pass is manually conflate to existing data.


Brian aka grouper

On 9/12/2018 4:17 PM, Leif Rasmussen wrote:

Hi Mango,
I have quite a lot of experience with address imports, and would love 
to help with Miami.  I have visited Miami several times, and have 
grown a liking for it.  Adding addresses there would be a real pleasure.
There appears to be two address data sets - one with "addr:unit", and 
one without.  The one with "addr:unit" addresses 
 has 1,166,445 
points, and the one without 
 
has 586,171 points.  Both of these should be considered.  I would 
suggest importing the one with condos, or "addr:unit" features if the 
quality is good.  Otherwise, I think that the dataset without 
addr:unit should be imported.
Also, the license seems OK.  According to the Miami-Dade County 
Buildings Import 
, 
the license is public domain, which they claim is true of all 
government produced data in Florida.
The only issue I see with the data is the size.  My laptop took 5 
minutes to open the address points (including addr:unit, so 1,166,445 
nodes) and more than 20 minutes to edit a single key.  This could be 
worked around, though, by splitting up the data.
I created a wiki page for the import 
, 
which is a step of the Import Guidelines 
. Sending a 
proposal to the local community and imports mailing list will also be 
needed.

I hope that this import will end up working out!
Leif Rasmussen


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Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-12 Thread Levente Juhász 
Hey,

As far as licenses go, these datasets are public domain so no other action
is needed.

As for all the other things, we gave this project a try in 2016 and
imported a large chunk of Large Buildings with address points back then. It
was meant to be a community project where we aimed to engage local mappers
in OSM activities, too. This other objective was not fully achieved, though.

Anyway, here are a few resources that you might find useful.

Wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County_Large_Building_Import
Import account: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MiamiBuildingsImport
Tool: https://github.com/jlevente/MiamiOSM-buildings (for your #2 and #3)
The Tasking Manager we used to coordinate follow ups and quality checks is
currently offline (but I still have the database).

+1 An open access publication summarizing the finding, more from an
academic point of view:
Juhász, Levente, and Hartwig H. Hochmair. "OSM Data Import as an Outreach
Tool to Trigger Community Growth? A Case Study in Miami." ISPRS
International Journal of Geo-Information 7.3 (2018): 113.
http://www.mdpi.com/2220-9964/7/3/113

Cheers,
Levente


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:55 PM mangokm40  wrote:

> OK, after speaking to some folks, I am here:
>
> 1.  Permission:
> There's an address on their website (g...@miamidade.gov). I asked
> them specifically about availability for openstreetmap.org. I got
> a response from the lady in charge (I know her) that said:
>
> "The data is freely available for download and use with the
> understanding that it is not guaranteed to be accurate, correct, or
>  complete and conclusions drawn from such information are the sole
> responsibility of the user."
>
> I saved the email, in case it is needed.
>
> 2.  Which data:
> Originally, I thought a "point" layer for all addresses would be great
> because it would allow address search without the weight of a full
> polygon. I've been told OSM prefers address tags on buildings.
> Thus, it's 2 layers we would need:
> a) address with point representation:
> https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo
> b) building footprint polygons:
> https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/building-footprint-2d
>
> 3.  Things that need to be done, which I know how to do:
> The data needs to be "massaged".
> The address data includes "condo". Thus, it has an address for each
> unit in a building. That needs to be trimmed to just one street
> address per building.
> Address abbreviations need to be converted. (ie. 1234 NW 33rd Ct needs
> to become 1234 Northwest 33 Court).
>
> 4.  Things that need to be done, which I don't know how to do:
> ALMOST EVERYTHING. :)
> Some building footprints already exist and some of them have an
> address. There would need to be a way to determine duplication.
> I have AutoCad & ESRI experience, but know nothing of OSM data & tools.
> I don't know any local people that are doing this. Is there a way to
> find them?
>
>
> Thanks to all who have already helped me.
>
>
> (_8'()
>
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> On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:22, Rihards ric...@nakts.net wrote:
>
>
> > On 2018.09.11. 19:13, mangokm40 wrote:
> >
> > > This is my first post.  Be gentle, if I fail some etiquette test. :)
> > > I was testing the "maps.me" application and noticed address search
> > > didn't work.  It turns out it was a data problem.  OSM doesn't have all
> > > the addresses for Miami (Dade county), Florida.  This surprised me
> > > because our county makes this information available to the public.
> > > The main dataset I thought would be useful can be found here:
> > > https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo
> > > As a point feature class, I figure it could be lightweight and allow
> > > search for ANY address in the county.  The data can be downloaded in
> KML
> > > or SHP format.  The license link displays this:
> > > "Miami-Dade County provides this data for use "as is". The areas
> > > depicted by this map/data are approximate, and are not accurate to
> > > surveying or engineering standards. The maps/data shown here are for
> > > illustration purposes only and are not suitable for site-specific
> > > decision making. Information found here should not be used for making
> > > financial or any other commitments. Miami-Dade County provides this
> > > information with the understanding that it is not guaranteed to be
> > > accurate, correct or complete and conclusions drawn from such
> > > information are the sole responsibility of the user. While every effort
> > > has been made to ensure the accuracy, correctness and timeliness of
> > > materials presented, Miami-Dade County assumes no responsibility for
> > > errors or omissions, even if Miami-Dade County is advised of the
> > > possibility of such damage."
> > > Since we think of Miami as a "global" destination, I thought search
> > > address

Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-12 Thread Leif Rasmussen 
Hi Mango,
I have quite a lot of experience with address imports, and would love to
help with Miami.  I have visited Miami several times, and have grown a
liking for it.  Adding addresses there would be a real pleasure.
There appears to be two address data sets - one with "addr:unit", and one
without.  The one with "addr:unit" addresses

has 1,166,445
points, and the one without

has 586,171 points.  Both of these should be considered.  I would suggest
importing the one with condos, or "addr:unit" features if the quality is
good.  Otherwise, I think that the dataset without addr:unit should be
imported.
Also, the license seems OK.  According to the Miami-Dade County Buildings
Import
,
the license is public domain, which they claim is true of all government
produced data in Florida.
The only issue I see with the data is the size.  My laptop took 5 minutes
to open the address points (including addr:unit, so 1,166,445 nodes) and
more than 20 minutes to edit a single key.  This could be worked around,
though, by splitting up the data.
I created a wiki page for the import
,
which is a step of the Import Guidelines
. Sending a proposal
to the local community and imports mailing list will also be needed.
I hope that this import will end up working out!
Leif Rasmussen
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Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-12 Thread mangokm40 
OK, after speaking to some folks, I am here:

1.  Permission:
There's an address on their website (g...@miamidade.gov). I asked
them specifically about availability for openstreetmap.org. I got
a response from the lady in charge (I know her) that said:

"The data is freely available for download and use with the understanding 
that it is not guaranteed to be accurate, correct, or
 complete and conclusions drawn from such information are the sole 
responsibility of the user."

I saved the email, in case it is needed.

2.  Which data:
Originally, I thought a "point" layer for all addresses would be great
because it would allow address search without the weight of a full polygon. 
I've been told OSM prefers address tags on buildings.
Thus, it's 2 layers we would need:
a) address with point representation:
https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo
b) building footprint polygons:
https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/building-footprint-2d

3.  Things that need to be done, which I know how to do:
The data needs to be "massaged".
The address data includes "condo". Thus, it has an address for each unit in 
a building. That needs to be trimmed to just one street
address per building.
Address abbreviations need to be converted. (ie. 1234 NW 33rd Ct needs to 
become 1234 Northwest 33 Court).

4.  Things that need to be done, which I don't know how to do:
ALMOST EVERYTHING. :)
Some building footprints already exist and some of them have an address. 
There would need to be a way to determine duplication.
I have AutoCad & ESRI experience, but know nothing of OSM data & tools.
I don't know any local people that are doing this. Is there a way to
find them?


Thanks to all who have already helped me.


(_8'()

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On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:22, Rihards ric...@nakts.net wrote:


> On 2018.09.11. 19:13, mangokm40 wrote:
>
> > This is my first post.  Be gentle, if I fail some etiquette test. :)
> > I was testing the "maps.me" application and noticed address search
> > didn't work.  It turns out it was a data problem.  OSM doesn't have all
> > the addresses for Miami (Dade county), Florida.  This surprised me
> > because our county makes this information available to the public.
> > The main dataset I thought would be useful can be found here:
> > https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo
> > As a point feature class, I figure it could be lightweight and allow
> > search for ANY address in the county.  The data can be downloaded in KML
> > or SHP format.  The license link displays this:
> > "Miami-Dade County provides this data for use "as is". The areas
> > depicted by this map/data are approximate, and are not accurate to
> > surveying or engineering standards. The maps/data shown here are for
> > illustration purposes only and are not suitable for site-specific
> > decision making. Information found here should not be used for making
> > financial or any other commitments. Miami-Dade County provides this
> > information with the understanding that it is not guaranteed to be
> > accurate, correct or complete and conclusions drawn from such
> > information are the sole responsibility of the user. While every effort
> > has been made to ensure the accuracy, correctness and timeliness of
> > materials presented, Miami-Dade County assumes no responsibility for
> > errors or omissions, even if Miami-Dade County is advised of the
> > possibility of such damage."
> > Since we think of Miami as a "global" destination, I thought search
> > address would be valuable to OSM.  Is this something that has
> > been explored?  Am I wasting my time?
>
> Hi and thank you for such a thoughtful email - and for your attention to
> detail.
> It looks like what you have quoted is more like a liability clause than
> a full licence. Do they have more on the licence? Or is it PD because of
> higher regulation?
>
> > If this is useful, I'll be happy to help.  If I posted to the wrong
> > place, please point to the right place.
> > Mango, in rainy Miami    (_8'()
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-11 Thread Rihards 
On 2018.09.11. 19:13, mangokm40 wrote:
> This is my first post.  Be gentle, if I fail some etiquette test. :)
> 
> I was testing the "maps.me" application and noticed address search
> didn't work.  It turns out it was a data problem.  OSM doesn't have all
> the addresses for Miami (Dade county), Florida.  This surprised me
> because our county makes this information available to the public.
> 
> The main dataset I thought would be useful can be found here:
> https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo
> As a point feature class, I figure it could be lightweight and allow
> search for ANY address in the county.  The data can be downloaded in KML
> or SHP format.  The license link displays this:
> 
> "Miami-Dade County provides this data for use "as is". The areas
> depicted by this map/data are approximate, and are not accurate to
> surveying or engineering standards. The maps/data shown here are for
> illustration purposes only and are not suitable for site-specific
> decision making. Information found here should not be used for making
> financial or any other commitments. Miami-Dade County provides this
> information with the understanding that it is not guaranteed to be
> accurate, correct or complete and conclusions drawn from such
> information are the sole responsibility of the user. While every effort
> has been made to ensure the accuracy, correctness and timeliness of
> materials presented, Miami-Dade County assumes no responsibility for
> errors or omissions, even if Miami-Dade County is advised of the
> possibility of such damage."
> 
> Since we think of Miami as a "global" destination, I thought search
> address would be valuable to OSM.  Is this something that has
> been explored?  Am I wasting my time?

Hi and thank you for such a thoughtful email - and for your attention to
detail.

It looks like what you have quoted is more like a liability clause than
a full licence. Do they have more on the licence? Or is it PD because of
higher regulation?

> If this is useful, I'll be happy to help.  If I posted to the wrong
> place, please point to the right place.
> 
> 
> Mango, in rainy Miami    (_8'()
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[Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-11 Thread mangokm40 
This is my first post.  Be gentle, if I fail some etiquette test. :)

I was testing the "maps.me" application and noticed address search didn't work. 
 It turns out it was a data problem.  OSM doesn't have all the addresses for 
Miami (Dade county), Florida.  This surprised me because our county makes this 
information available to the public.

The main dataset I thought would be useful can be found here:
https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo
As a point feature class, I figure it could be lightweight and allow search for 
ANY address in the county.  The data can be downloaded in KML or SHP format.  
The license link displays this:

"Miami-Dade County provides this data for use "as is". The areas depicted by 
this map/data are approximate, and are not accurate to surveying or engineering 
standards. The maps/data shown here are for illustration purposes only and are 
not suitable for site-specific decision making. Information found here should 
not be used for making financial or any other commitments. Miami-Dade County 
provides this information with the understanding that it is not guaranteed to 
be accurate, correct or complete and conclusions drawn from such information 
are the sole responsibility of the user. While every effort has been made to 
ensure the accuracy, correctness and timeliness of materials presented, 
Miami-Dade County assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions, even if 
Miami-Dade County is advised of the possibility of such damage."

Since we think of Miami as a "global" destination, I thought search address 
would be valuable to OSM.  Is this something that has
been explored?  Am I wasting my time?

If this is useful, I'll be happy to help.  If I posted to the wrong place, 
please point to the right place.

Mango, in rainy Miami(_8'()___
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