Re: [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: I've been on the osmand list for over a year, and the issue of routing choices similar to yours have come up multiple times. It seems that the views of the osmand developers (who are not very active on the list) are

Re: [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-30 Thread Greg Troxel
James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com writes: I've been normally mapping slip lanes as '_link' highways at intersections since the beginning. However, as most fellow US mappers know, they almost never have 'speed limits' posted for them, and that seems to help cause problems in some routing

[Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-28 Thread James Mast
I personally see no problem with adding 'nodes' where the stop lines are so that another mapper in the future can add, say, 'highway:traffic_signals=stop_line' or something similar once we nail down how to 'link' all traffic lights in an intersection and come up with a proper tagging scheme

Re: [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-28 Thread James Mast
Well, the problem here is, that even though OSMAnd says 'make a U-Turn', vshcherb says the following about it: Technically this is not U-Turn, cause it goes to another OSM way. U-Turn when you get back to the same road, because most of the roads are drawn as 2 ways, that's why U-Turn is just

[Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-27 Thread James Mast
I've been normally mapping slip lanes as '_link' highways at intersections since the beginning. However, as most fellow US mappers know, they almost never have 'speed limits' posted for them, and that seems to help cause problems in some routing programs when they give those slip lanes a speed

Re: [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-27 Thread Mike Thompson
In reality there is only one set of stop lights there, correct? In other words, if one were headed south on McKnight Road turning east on Seibert, one would not have to stop (assuming red lights) three different times. 1) A routing engine should have some heuristics to interpret the three (in

Re: [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-27 Thread Mike N
2) There should be some cost in a routing engine for making a u-turn so as to discourage such routes even if there was an extra set of signals. Making a u-turn does take time (one can not go from the posted speed limit in one direction to the posted speed limit in the other direction

Re: [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-27 Thread Tod Fitch
On Jul 27, 2015, at 8:58 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been normally mapping slip lanes as '_link' highways at intersections since the beginning. However, as most fellow US mappers know, they almost never have 'speed limits' posted for them, and that seems to help

Re: [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-27 Thread David Wisbey
 This issue reminds me of something I saw a lot of recently on OSMin Fort Collins, Colorado.  I get the impression that the mapper whodid this editing did it as a way to avoid the problem(s) mentionedregarding routing.  When I first saw this peculiar way of mappingtraffic signals, I didn't