On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I added the takeaway from this discussion to the wiki:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%
> 3Aboundary%3Dnational_park=revision=1424102=1373291
>
> Feel free to amend as necessary.
>
> I made an
Hi,
I added the takeaway from this discussion to the wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Aboundary%3Dnational_park=revision=1424102=1373291
Feel free to amend as necessary.
Bye
Frederik
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Greg Troxel wrote:
> Around me (amusingly as we discuss British influence on tagging)
> is "Minuteman National Historic Park". This is not a "National Park",
> but it has the same kind rangers in the same uniforms, the same
> kinds of rules, and is managed to preserve the historic landscape
To me the biggest point is that having a tag "boundary=national_park" in
OSM that is somehow tied to exactly which flavor of park administered by
exactly which government *in the US* seems broken. The general OSM
model is to have tags that have some meaning that can reasonably be
applied
I, for one, loved the points you made about sovereignty.
-jack
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On January 30, 2017 11:23:25 PM EST, OSM Volunteer stevea
wrote:
>Apologies, Ian. I did mention that my VERY brief digression into state
>sovereignty
No apologies needed, folks. I appreciate the time you put into these
replies and I know we're all passionate about this stuff (otherwise we
wouldn't be here).
Keep up the good work!
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Apologies, Ian. I did mention that my VERY brief digression into state
sovereignty was recognizably "not on a political forum" and intentionally
brought the topic back to "OSM and tagging standards."
The intent was to clarify that states (New York, California...) do designate
wilderness
Sorry for the digression. I was attempting to present the theory by
which I chose tags for various closely related objects. In particular,
the Blue Ridge Parkway might get 'boundary=protected_area
protect_class=21 protection_object=recreation', if I understand the
object of its existence. Since
Hi folks,
Remember to keep our messages on topic, please. We probably don't need to
have back-and-forths about state sovereignty on a thread about the Blue
Ridge Parkway.
Thanks,
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Hello again, Kevin:
On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> The use of UK English as the OSM standard gets in the way
(of boundary=national_park)
> here, since
> the UK has nothing that's a direct parallel to a state park. States of
> the US at least
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 7:07 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea
wrote:
> The boundary=national_park tag has seen much use and abuse over many years.
> Perhaps because it renders as green dashes, it was inappropriately used (and
> is today?) for state parks and other
Long post alert, apologies in advance. You might jump to the last paragraph,
beginning "stated succinctly."
I applaud efforts and discussion I see here regarding subtle distinctions
between Blue Ridge Parkway being not a National Park per se, but rather a "park
area" administered by the same
>
>
>
> Is our definition of national park different than Wikipedia's, or should
> one of the two be changed?
>
It is a "National Heritage Area"[1]which is under the jurisdiction of the
US National Park Service. While it is not a "National Park" in the formal
U.S. sense it is a "national park" in
Also see "But is the Blue Ridge Parkway a National Park?" on the Blue Ridge
FAQ: https://www.nps.gov/blri/planyourvisit/np-versus-nf.htm According to
that it is a "National Park Service area" but not a park.
The NPS makes this distinction on their nomenclature page (
According to NPS it is a park.
[1]
https://www.nps.gov/maps/full.html?mapId=e212fcb5-4ff9-4787-bbe4-3d40cc0d0daa#9/36.8412/-80.6506
You just can't trust Wikipedia. maybe they should start citing OSM instead
of those old pesky books.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Frederik Ramm
Hi,
I stumbled across the Blue Ridge Parkway in OSM (you learn something
new every day, that's one of the things I like so much about OSM).
I noticed that Wikipedia has:
"The parkway, while not a National Park, has been the most visited unit
of the National Park System every year since
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