Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-17 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-04-16 20:41, Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Or you can simply add odbl=clean if there's nothing ungood about the object (e.g. it was

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-17 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2012-04-16 20:41, Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Or you

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-17 Thread stevea
Sure, Alan. I'll try to help by explaining a core of my process, and you and others can take it from there. Great job - thanks for this. I'm sure it helps. Appreciate the kudos. We might all share like this when asked. This is called a workflow and workflows with specific numbered steps

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-16 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-04-16 13:24, stevea wrote: At 2012-04-12 17:36, you wrote: I see excellent progress in California during the recent eight days of re-mapping. If you are an editing maniac... Can you comment on your process? I see very little real, coordinated info about tools, concrete solutions, or

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-16 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-04-16 13:52, stevea wrote: At 2012-04-12 17:36, you wrote: I see excellent progress in California during the recent eight days of re-mapping. If you are an editing maniac... Can you comment on your process? I see very little real, coordinated info about tools, concrete solutions, or

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/16/2012 8:56 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: So, we're basically duplicating the existing way and then blessing it. Is this really sufficient - to verify the tainted geometry instead of re-drawing it? Only if the nodes are clean. Another point, at least in SoCal, is that many of our tainted ways

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-16 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Or you can simply add odbl=clean if there's nothing ungood about the object (e.g. it was split from a TIGER way and the splitting is something you would have done anyway). Is this really sufficient? Can someone from the redaction squad comment?

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Or you can simply add odbl=clean if there's nothing ungood about the object (e.g. it was split from a TIGER way and the splitting is something you would have done anyway). Is this really sufficient? Can

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Alan Mintz [mailto:alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:18 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s. At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Or you can simply add odbl=clean if there's nothing ungood about

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-16 Thread James Mast
I just saw this post on the rebuild list, so you guys might want to be a tad careful when you're doing cleaning work by creating a new way and keeping the old tainted nodes in it. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/rebuild/2012-April/000206.html

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/16/2012 11:04 PM, James Mast wrote: I just saw this post on the rebuild list, so you guys might want to be a tad careful when you're doing cleaning work by creating a new way and keeping the old tainted nodes in it. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/rebuild/2012-April/000206.html

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Or you can simply add odbl=clean if there's nothing ungood about the object (e.g. it was split from a TIGER way and the splitting

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-15 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 7:26 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 April 2012 03:30, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: One drawback to this new-coordinate technique is that, in some cases, the tainted nodes will have been

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-14 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:30 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: One drawback to this new-coordinate technique is that, in some cases, the tainted nodes will have been in the proper locations to match the real world. Probably not. Every source we rely upon is wrong in one way or

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Apr 13, 2012 6:31 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: One drawback to this new-coordinate technique is that, in some cases, the tainted nodes will have been in the proper locations to match the real world. So, in order to make the cleanup bot not consider the nodes to be tainted,

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 14 April 2012 03:30, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: One drawback to this new-coordinate technique is that, in some cases, the tainted nodes will have been in the proper locations to match the real world.  So, in order to make the cleanup bot not consider the nodes to be

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-14 Thread John F. Eldredge
andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 April 2012 03:30, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: One drawback to this new-coordinate technique is that, in some cases, the tainted nodes will have been in the proper locations to match the real world.  So, in order to make the

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread Mike N
On 4/12/2012 11:13 PM, James Mast wrote: It seems that they are just starting a new way and connecting each old node to the new way without at least moving the old node, which means if Lar created the node and nobody has moved it since, it still will get deleted and mess up the highway

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread stevea
I don't know who's doing that work in Columbia on the Interstates, but they are doing it wrong unfortunately. While the ways aren't tainted anymore, all of the nodes are still. Meaning that once the bot gets unleashed, the highways will still get fucked-up. It seems that they are just

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:27 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I don't know who's doing that work in Columbia on the Interstates, but they are doing it wrong unfortunately.  While the ways aren't tainted anymore, all of the nodes are still.  Meaning that once the bot gets unleashed,

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread Martijn van Exel
Agreed. I am spending some cozy times with I65 in Alabama, next on my list is US 78. Better late than never. Cleaning up lots of bridge trouble too (missing grade separations). For those interested, I identified ~12000 points of highway Trouble for the US (here is the blog post -

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:27 AM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I don't know who's doing that work in Columbia on the Interstates, but they are doing it wrong unfortunately. While the ways aren't tainted

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I've been working in Seattle.  An undecided (and probably long gone) mapper touched a large segment of the area.  Looking at CLEANMAP, Seattle looks much better after hours of work by many people.  However if every

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread James Mast
Well guys, as far as I know, as long as the non-CT user didn't add any tags to the node, all you have to do is move said node to a new coordinate and it should then be considered un-tainted. That's what I was told and that's what happens on the OSM Inspector. Plus, if you're using the

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: Well guys, as far as I know, as long as the non-CT user didn't add any tags to the node, all you have to do is move said node to a new coordinate and it should then be considered un-tainted. That's what I was told and that's what happens on the

[Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-12 Thread stevea
Hey, us, vaguely northamerican OSMers: nice work so far! I see excellent progress in California during the recent eight days of re-mapping. If you are an editing maniac (like me in the last few days) you have discovered that BADMAP lag makes you move onto another region. I have chased

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-12 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: Hey, us, vaguely northamerican OSMers:  nice work so far! I see excellent progress in California during the recent eight days of re-mapping.  If you are an editing maniac (like me in the last few days) you have

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-12 Thread James Mast
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:56:49 -0500 From: toby.mur...@gmail.com To: stevea...@softworkers.com CC: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s. I have noticed several people's remapping efforts in my live edit viewer. Over towards the east, I see long