Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-12-04 Thread James Mast
@openstreetmap.org; burke...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature) Someone in the Valley Forge area also tagged refs on a LOT of four-digit State Routes that aren't signed...seems like this belongs in a relation with unsigned_ref and the ref should be unsigned_ref. Yes

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-12-04 Thread Paul Johnson
, 4 Dec 2014 14:16:01 -0600 From: ba...@ursamundi.org To: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com CC: talk-us@openstreetmap.org; burke...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature) Someone in the Valley Forge area also tagged refs on a LOT of four-digit State Routes

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-12-03 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-12-01 13:58, James Mast wrote: Same thing goes with Florida. Just the state outline. Heck, in Pennsylvania, originally on BGS's before we started to use the Keystone shield, we used the 'PA' abbreviation (one such sign that still stands [1]). However, now on the little white reference

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-12-03 Thread Tod Fitch
On Dec 3, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: If we standardize all states on the state abbreviations, software like Nominatim would need special cases to translate from e.g. 100 SR 123, Red Lion (what a typical user would input based on a business listing) to 100, OH 123, Red Lion,

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-12-01 Thread James Mast
highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature) In Georgia, (almost?) all state roads are signed with the state outline and the highway number, but no GA or Georgia text with it. Occasionally you might see State Road or State Route printed on the sign in addition to the state outline. In some very rural

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-30 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-11-29 22:45, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 22:21 -0800, Minh Nguyen wrote: Do any routing engines currently care about prefixes on way refs? From what I've seen so far, most of the map styles that use the ref tag to distinguish route networks will recognize either the

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-30 Thread stevea
On 2014-11-29 22:45, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 22:21 -0800, Minh Nguyen wrote: Do any routing engines currently care about prefixes on way refs? From what I've seen so far, most of the map styles that use the ref tag to distinguish route networks will recognize either the

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-30 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-11-30 10:41, stevea wrote: My two cents: I must say that here in California, I've made it a habit to remove the County Route designation (CR) which precedes a ref number in our County Route system. For example, NE2 (a banned-from-OSM former contributor for those unfamiliar with that

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-30 Thread Jack Burke
In Georgia, (almost?) all state roads are signed with the state outline and the highway number, but no GA or Georgia text with it. Occasionally you might see State Road or State Route printed on the sign in addition to the state outline. In some very rural areas, I think there might still be a

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: So, a couple of questions: 1. What, exactly, is fair game to change to a state abbreviation reference? Fair game nationwide, two letter state abbreviations should be used for the primary state highway network. 2.

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Dave Mansfield
29, 2014 10:04 PM To: Shawn K. Quinn Cc: OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature) On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com mailto:skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: So, a couple of questions: 1. What, exactly, is fair

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
...@ursamundi.org] *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:04 PM *To:* Shawn K. Quinn *Cc:* OpenStreetMap talk-us list *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature) On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: So, a couple of questions: 1

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Dave Mansfield
] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:40 PM To: Dave Mansfield Cc: Shawn K. Quinn; OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature) I'm going to say that the wiki is presently wrong compared to consensus previously arrived at on the tagging list

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Dave Mansfield mansfie...@chartermi.net wrote: Please forgive me I’m not trying to stir things up. I’m new to OSM and trying to learn and I don’t have any idea what the NE2 you refer to is. Glossing past this since it's extensively in the archives at this

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Dave Mansfield
[mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 12:11 AM To: Dave Mansfield Cc: Shawn K. Quinn; OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature) On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Dave Mansfield mansfie...@chartermi.net mailto:mansfie

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-11-29 19:31, Dave Mansfield wrote: From the Wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging “The two letter abbreviation for the state per the United States Postal Service's state abbreviation list https://www.usps.com/send/official-abbreviations.htm, another

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-11-29 21:27, Dave Mansfield wrote: It makes sense the way you explain it. I was looking at it as a name of the route and thinking it should me the same as signs etc. But not the fact that routing engines and renderers will know it’s a state highway based on the state abbreviation. Do

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-29 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 22:21 -0800, Minh Nguyen wrote: Do any routing engines currently care about prefixes on way refs? From what I've seen so far, most of the map styles that use the ref tag to distinguish route networks will recognize either the state abbreviation, SR, or SH. Some

[Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-09 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 03:56 -0500, James Mast wrote: Just wanted to throw this out there in case you guys have forgoten, but we also use the two letter abbreviation in almost all relations for highways in the USA (however, there are a few that do spell out the state). There are still a few

Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-09 Thread James Mast
, 9 Nov 2014 03:10:19 -0600 Subject: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature) On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 03:56 -0500, James Mast wrote: Just wanted to throw this out there in case you guys have forgoten, but we also use the two letter abbreviation in almost all relations