At 2012-04-16 20:41, Toby Murray wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Or you can simply add odbl=clean if there's nothing ungood about the
object (e.g. it was
Gregory Arenius wrote:
Hi,
Imported data turns down potential new mappers.
I really disagree with this statement. I think the mappers would be
turned off if we didn't import it when available. So you have all
250,000 address points for the city but instead of using them you'd
rather us go
On 4/17/2012 3:29 AM, Werner Poppele wrote:
I totally agree with Frederik. Yes - imported data turns down new
mappers. Have you ever seen those monster
multipolygons ? I am sure a new mapper says: Forget that
I personally tend to stop my contribution to OSM because of the very bad
stuff I see
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 4/17/2012 3:29 AM, Werner Poppele wrote:
I totally agree with Frederik. Yes - imported data turns down new
mappers. Have you ever seen those monster
multipolygons ? I am sure a new mapper says: Forget that
I personally tend to stop my contribution to OSM because of
Hi,
On 04/17/12 01:05, James Umbanhowar wrote:
Being a reformed importer, I generally agree with the don't import rule.
However, I have often heard this nugget and in my experience it is based on
either anecdote or one set of simulations that assumed that individuals stop
joining because they
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Alan Mintz
alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote:
At 2012-04-16 20:41, Toby Murray wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Or you
On 4/17/2012 4:26 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
And now assume there's a third city
of equal size where *nothing* has been mapped at all... maybe I
shouldn't speak for everyone but for me (and virtually every mapper I
know) surely the city with data-but-no-mappers would be least appealing,
far below
Sure, Alan. I'll try to help by explaining a core of my process,
and you and others can take it from there.
Great job - thanks for this. I'm sure it helps.
Appreciate the kudos. We might all share like this when asked. This
is called a workflow and workflows with specific numbered steps
Regarding Frederik's 4 points, plus the element duplication issue as
reasons imports are bad:
ALL are potentially true for any mapper especially new ones. It is just
that a bad import can generate a lot more good/bad data at once. So yes,
imports need more effort to insure good quality.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this point is controversial, so let's stick with some points
that aren't:
1. In our history of imports, a very small percentage have been good.
Compare a users early imports to their early mapping
They aren't
On 4/17/2012 8:18 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
If a user manually surveys data, there is an assumption of timeliness
and accuracy of that survey. That's not the case with imported data,
despite oftentimes being stamped official.
When I joined OSM I went through photos and notes I had taken
I'm wondering what the best way would be to tag a good-quality shoulder
that acts essentially as an undesignated bike lane, in that you can use
it but it is not required. Current Florida DOT policy is to use these on
rural roads, with marked bike lanes only when there is a lane to the
right.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
When I joined OSM I went through photos and notes I had taken since the late
1990s. There's no guarantee of timeliness here either. Certainly not as much
as an import of city boundary data that has each annexation
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 09:15:49PM -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
I'm wondering what the best way would be to tag a good-quality
shoulder that acts essentially as an undesignated bike lane, in that
you can use it but it is not required. Current Florida DOT policy is
to use these on rural
On 4/17/2012 9:23 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
When I joined OSM I went through photos and notes I had taken since the late
1990s. There's no guarantee of timeliness here either. Certainly not as much
as an import of
On 4/17/2012 9:43 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
Alternatively, maybe cycleway needs an unmarked lane setting for these
situations, though that would imply the local authorities are intending for
cyclists to use the shoulder, rather than just tolerating their presence
(the usual situation).
I
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