Re: [Talk-us] Clarke County, Mississippi, county road signs and OSM name tags

2018-08-14 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:24 PM Jack Burke wrote: > While some counties just attach a number to a pole (e.g., many counties in > Georgia), there are some that put up signs saying "CR 123" (Jasper County, > Mississippi) for unnamed county roads. However, Clarke County, Mississippi > signs

[Talk-us] Clarke County, Mississippi, county road signs and OSM name tags

2018-08-14 Thread Jack Burke
Asking for thoughts & opinions... While some counties just attach a number to a pole (e.g., many counties in Georgia), there are some that put up signs saying "CR 123" (Jasper County, Mississippi) for unnamed county roads. However, Clarke County, Mississippi signs (with shiny new

Re: [Talk-us] Clarke County, Mississippi, county road signs and OSM name tags

2018-08-14 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:35 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > > Just ref=CR 123. The name should not be redundant to the ref, so if it's > signed as Clark Co. 123 and that's it, then add noname=yes as well. The name > is only the name, name is not ref. I'm fine with an unnamed way having just a ref

Re: [Talk-us] Clarke County, Mississippi, county road signs and OSM name tags

2018-08-14 Thread Kevin Kenny
I realize that my last couple of messages were sent from the wrong return address and didn't go to the list. Oops. Apologies to anyone who's getting this twice. On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:24 Jack Burke wrote: >> While some counties just attach a number to a pole (e.g., many counties in >>

Re: [Talk-us] State Open Data

2018-08-14 Thread Brian May
On 8/12/2018 4:26 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 1:05 PM OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: I'm not an attorney, though were I to attempt to sharpen focus on these two replies, I'd say that in California, it's more like this: data produced by state agencies (by our state government

Re: [Talk-us] State Open Data

2018-08-14 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Thank you very much for these additional clarifications, Brian. It may take years, it may take several court cases, it may take fifty state legislatures and courts and federal appeals and circuits to assert this, it may take Attorneys General educating county clerks who try to assert copyright

Re: [Talk-us] Clarke County, Mississippi, county road signs and OSM name tags

2018-08-14 Thread Paul Johnson
Just ref=CR 123. The name should not be redundant to the ref, so if it's signed as Clark Co. 123 and that's it, then add noname=yes as well. The name is only the name, name is not ref. On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:24 Jack Burke wrote: > Asking for thoughts & opinions... > > While some counties

Re: [Talk-us] Clarke County, Mississippi, county road signs and OSM name tags

2018-08-14 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm referring to when ref tagging on a way, which yes, is dinosaur tagging obsoleted the moment route relations became a thing. On a relation, I could go either way on the relation being named, network would be US:MS:Clarke and the ref would be 123 in this example. On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 14:08

Re: [Talk-us] Clarke County, Mississippi, county road signs and OSM name tags

2018-08-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:19 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > I realize that my last couple of messages were sent from the wrong > return address and didn't go to the list. Oops. Apologies to anyone > who's getting this twice. > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018, 11:24 Jack Burke wrote: > >> While some counties

Re: [Talk-us] State Open Data

2018-08-14 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 4:31 PM Brian May wrote: > This may have been stated already, but just wanted to make it clear - > State laws on public records filter down through all regional and local > governments operating within the state. So if state law doesn't > explicitly give a county

Re: [Talk-us] Clarke County, Mississippi, county road signs and OSM name tags

2018-08-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Mike N wrote: > On 8/14/2018 6:33 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Yeah, even then I'd be more inclined to go with ref=CR 1400W, noname=yes >> on the way itself. >> > > How should we handle addressing for noname roads? What should addr:street > contain for addresses

Re: [Talk-us] State Open Data

2018-08-14 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Again, one of the most important things that might be said (in talk-us) about "State Open Data" is that there are at least fifty different sets of rules. "Check your state laws and county practices" remains excellent advice. Yes, it can be complex, but if in a state like California, we're in