Re: [Talk-us] TIGER Map Updates
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:06:14 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > about Dupage county, user_5788 said "I've done most (all?) of the > > Dupage county mapping out there. _Most_ of what I've done is > > streets (a few parks and bike trails are also tossed in there), and > > I'm sure that loading the Tiger data there would be a lot faster > > than me continuing to ride around on my bike. So I'm up for > > replacing my stuff with Tiger data. It'll definitely make it easier > > to add all of the other landmarks I know about in the area." > > OK, so that's a "yes" on Du Page? Seemed like it to me > > So, are you able to upload the data from the city? > > No. > > 1. It's not in a format that I can readily use (I don't know about >conversion) > 2. It's not clearly legally available. Thanks for looking into it -- Joseph Jon Booker signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER Map Updates
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 16:05 -0600, Joseph Booker wrote: > Ok, so I've waited three weeks for responses, and these are what I have: > > Two contributors said 'yes', several didn't respond, and one said that > uploading data from Chicago GIS* would be better Well, it's only better if someone goes to the (technical and legal) trouble of getting the data into a format which can be used by OSM. On the surface, they don't look amenable to providing full data sets, and there are some requirements for reproduction of copyright notices. I'm not sure OSM can respect that properly. Anyway, if someone wants to pursue this, let me know. I can probably get you in touch with some people in the city's legal office. I know some people who used to work there. > about Dupage county, user_5788 said "I've done most (all?) of the Dupage > county mapping out there. _Most_ of what I've done is streets (a few > parks and bike trails are also tossed in there), and I'm sure that > loading the Tiger data there would be a lot faster than me continuing > to ride around on my bike. So I'm up for replacing my stuff with Tiger > data. It'll definitely make it easier to add all of the other landmarks > I know about in the area." OK, so that's a "yes" on Du Page? > So, are you able to upload the data from the city? No. 1. It's not in a format that I can readily use (I don't know about conversion) 2. It's not clearly legally available. -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER Map Updates
Ok, so I've waited three weeks for responses, and these are what I have: Two contributors said 'yes', several didn't respond, and one said that uploading data from Chicago GIS* would be better about Dupage county, user_5788 said "I've done most (all?) of the Dupage county mapping out there. _Most_ of what I've done is streets (a few parks and bike trails are also tossed in there), and I'm sure that loading the Tiger data there would be a lot faster than me continuing to ride around on my bike. So I'm up for replacing my stuff with Tiger data. It'll definitely make it easier to add all of the other landmarks I know about in the area." So, are you able to upload the data from the city? I don't know what licensing restrictions they have, or its in a compatible format. * http://tinyurl.com/2s2ef6 or http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalDeptCategoryAction.do?BV_SessionID=2088921627.1200173949&BV_EngineID=adedddkmmlkcefecelldffhdfgn.0&deptCategoryOID=-536886491&contentType=COC_EDITORIAL&topChannelName=SubAgency&entityName=Geographic+Information+Systems&deptMainCategoryOID=-536886491 -- Thanks, Joseph Jon Booker signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER Map Updates
On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 18:57 -0600, Joseph Booker wrote: > Not sure whats considered 'decent', most (but not all) of the major > roads are mapped on the north side, and south side is > empty besides the highways. Yeah, that's the trouble with the TIGER data. Its coverage is excellent, but the quality can be worse than what's there. So, do you throw away good, incomplete maps? Or do you throw away newer more human-reviewed existing data? > I'll message nearby people and any recent contributors I find. I live > in the near north suburbs, so I'm not really familiar with Du Page or > Kane county (well, besides bad experiences being lost). I mostly just want to make sure everybody is on the same page and that we don't destroy anybody's ability to work. -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER Map Updates
Thanks for the quick response On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:50:19 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 21:51 -0600, Joseph Booker wrote: > > In that case, can the Chicagoland area (Cook County) be uploaded > > soon also? Not sure how much of an interest you'd like, but there's > > at least > > two potential contributors around here who wouldn't mind the help > > I've avoided Chicago myself because I know there's actually a pretty > decent amount of good data already. I've actually done a wee bit of > mapping there myself, too. Not sure whats considered 'decent', most (but not all) of the major roads are mapped on the north side, and south side is empty besides the highways. > So, if you want the Chicago TIGER data, can you make an effort to find > some of the big contributors in the area and see what they think about > uploading TIGER data? > > While you're at it, can you see about Kane and Du Page? I know > there's at least a bit out there, too. > > -- Dave I'll message nearby people and any recent contributors I find. I live in the near north suburbs, so I'm not really familiar with Du Page or Kane county (well, besides bad experiences being lost). Thanks, Joseph Booker signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER Map Updates
On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 21:51 -0600, Joseph Booker wrote: > In that case, can the Chicagoland area (Cook County) be uploaded soon > also? Not sure how much of an interest you'd like, but there's at > least > two potential contributors around here who wouldn't mind the help I've avoided Chicago myself because I know there's actually a pretty decent amount of good data already. I've actually done a wee bit of mapping there myself, too. So, if you want the Chicago TIGER data, can you make an effort to find some of the big contributors in the area and see what they think about uploading TIGER data? While you're at it, can you see about Kane and Du Page? I know there's at least a bit out there, too. -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER Map Updates
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:51:00 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 20:26 -0600, Ian Dees wrote: > > > > I just spent a few hours working on Milwaukee, WI and started > > browsing the wiki. I noticed that someone is importing TIGER line > > data. I didn't get the impression that anyone was positive about > > whether pre-existing OSM data would be merged with TIGER data or if > > one or the other would get erased or duplicated. > > > > Should I keep making changes to the map or should I wait for the > > TIGER data to show up? > > I say wait for the TIGER data to show up, but I'm biased. ;) > > If you want your area uploaded now, just tell me the county names, and > I'll have it uploaded in a couple of hours. > > -- Dave In that case, can the Chicagoland area (Cook County) be uploaded soon also? Not sure how much of an interest you'd like, but there's at least two potential contributors around here who wouldn't mind the help - Joseph signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER Map Updates
On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 20:26 -0600, Ian Dees wrote: > > I just spent a few hours working on Milwaukee, WI and started browsing > the wiki. I noticed that someone is importing TIGER line data. I > didn't get the impression that anyone was positive about whether > pre-existing OSM data would be merged with TIGER data or if one or the > other would get erased or duplicated. > > Should I keep making changes to the map or should I wait for the TIGER > data to show up? I say wait for the TIGER data to show up, but I'm biased. ;) If you want your area uploaded now, just tell me the county names, and I'll have it uploaded in a couple of hours. -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] TIGER Map Updates
Hi there, I just spent a few hours working on Milwaukee, WI and started browsing the wiki. I noticed that someone is importing TIGER line data. I didn't get the impression that anyone was positive about whether pre-existing OSM data would be merged with TIGER data or if one or the other would get erased or duplicated. Should I keep making changes to the map or should I wait for the TIGER data to show up? -Ian ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
