Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile
I thought I was the only blindy that doesn't mind the new facebook that much, but I'm actually not. In many ways I prefer it. News feed is now not divided in to headings so I very much like that, since you can skip it easily. Like others have said, the fact that you can comment on statuses is also very good. Sure it's not perfect and it would have been a bit better if there was more heading navigation, but seriously, it's not as bad as people seem to make it out to be. Like someone else said, many people just seem not to like change. Another tip is if you are in the application, you can go to the first edit field, which is search followed by the search link, after that you're basically in the main part of the application pasts all the facebook links. There's very much doubt that you will be able to get the old facebook back and to be totally honest even if I had a choice, I very much doubt that I would want it. Oh and while I remember, one interesting thing was that since the new facebook, jaws couldn't at all see the preview screen when sending invites for the application. So once you select your friends and click on send, there is a preview that shows all the friends you have selected and what the message would look like to them, then you have to click send again. Jaws didn't seem to be bale to see this preview screen. Other screenreaders like window eyes or even system access did. However, a couple of days ago, I can't remember which ap it was, jaws did see it, so I don't quite understand what changed. There was also a problem and maybe still is in the type of application when selecting the friends you want to invite is done by checkboxes rather than clicking on people's name as a link where once you check a checkbox for someone's name, jaws would go to the top of the list of names and it would do so every time you check the box. Again, couple of days ago that wasn't happening, but I'm not sure if it is because facebook changed something or something was different in a particular aps' setting. Anyway, I'm kinda drifting off the main topic of this thread, but my main point is that personally I think people exadurate about usability of the new style facebook. Sure it's not perfect, but most things on there are definitely doable. Vanja http://www.sudar.co.uk http://mashupradio.net MSN/windows live messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: vanja121 Skype: vanja121 - Original Message - From: Doug Langley To: talk2 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:07 AM Subject: RE: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile So, I'm going to ask the same question that many have asked around the net; anyone manage to get the old facebook back? I havent bothered since I sort of like the new one. The profile page is a bit nasty and deleting apps is a huge pain but doable, but as for the news feed I like that its more chronological, and that you can comment on stuff now. the comment system has been needed for a long time. if you want something that's easier and quicker, you can go to m.facebook.com in firefox, but you wont be able to access alot of the apps from that page.
Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile
There are several I'm sure, but those who took the time probably complained with the hundreds who have already done so. Thing is, I'm not for playing the blind card usually, but if I could talk/write to someone withpower, explaining why the old facebook was nice, rather than just saying how bad the new one is, I may hopefully make an impression. Like you, I must confess that I am surprised that one of the hard core advocates, who would normally start a petition about practically anything hasn't clamped on to this and ran screaming quite loudly. - Original Message - From: Tasha Raella Chemel To: talk2 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:52 PM Subject: Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile god, i was waiting for someone to ask that question. ive been constantly googling, expecting an onslaught of messages on blindy listservs expressing that same sentiment, and have come up empty. i hate not being able to press h to jump from news item to news item and to have to wade through all this crap to find anything remotely interesting. glad to hear someone is as pissed off as I am. - Original Message - From: Derek Lane To: talk2 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile So, I'm going to ask the same question that many have asked around the net; anyone manage to get the old facebook back? I've yet too, and I've spent more time on trying to get said version back than editing church things PDAudio stuff, and things I actually get paid to do. Oh well. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3469 (20080924) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
RE: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile
So, I'm going to ask the same question that many have asked around the net; anyone manage to get the old facebook back? I havent bothered since I sort of like the new one. The profile page is a bit nasty and deleting apps is a huge pain but doable, but as for the news feed I like that its more chronological, and that you can comment on stuff now. the comment system has been needed for a long time. if you want something that's easier and quicker, you can go to m.facebook.com in firefox, but you wont be able to access alot of the apps from that page.
Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile
Yep. I am using m.facebook through Firefox3, and updating my status through Twitter via twittd on aim, and the Twitter facebook app, or through SMS. I don't mind the new facebook layout as much as some, although the lack of headers is really annoying. -- Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) KE4DYI Greensboro, NC website: http://www.pdaudio.net home: +1(336)698-4417 Mobile phone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: noaptiva Doug Langley wrote: So, I'm going to ask the same question that many have asked around the net; anyone manage to get the old facebook back? I havent bothered since I sort of like the new one. The profile page is a bit nasty and deleting apps is a huge pain but doable, but as for the news feed I like that its more chronological, and that you can comment on stuff now. the comment system has been needed for a long time. if you want something that's easier and quicker, you can go to m.facebook.com in firefox, but you wont be able to access alot of the apps from that page. Did you miss a message? Well, don't. http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/ has it for you. Never miss a Talk2 message again.
Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile
At the risk of starting a blindy uprising, I'd venture to guess that the reason why nothing has shown up in blindy lists in the online universe, is because other than the headings being taken out, (which is probably the only valid gripe that people disliking the new fb have,) it really comes down to something as simple as folks not liking a change and being ripped out of their comfort zone. They're not gonna change it back guys, so get over it. Yes... The profile page is kinda nasty in spots, and removing applications is sort of a pain in the almighty asshole, but it's still totally doable. Personally I like what they did with the news feed by making it in a chronological order, and they needed to have it so you could comment on statuses... That one was a long time in coming. If you really feel the needfor something easier and faster, you can check out m.facebook.com in Firefox, but (at least I can't anyway) access the applications that way. *Sheepishly retreats back into my corner* You learn to love, not by finding a perfect person, but by learning to see an imperfect person perfectly. Amy Billman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messenger ID's: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aim: amyk0223 Skype: amyb0223 www.myspace.com/clutchfan74 - Original Message - From: Derek Lane To: talk2 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:01 AM Subject: Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile There are several I'm sure, but those who took the time probably complained with the hundreds who have already done so. Thing is, I'm not for playing the blind card usually, but if I could talk/write to someone withpower, explaining why the old facebook was nice, rather than just saying how bad the new one is, I may hopefully make an impression. Like you, I must confess that I am surprised that one of the hard core advocates, who would normally start a petition about practically anything hasn't clamped on to this and ran screaming quite loudly. - Original Message - From: Tasha Raella Chemel To: talk2 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:52 PM Subject: Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile god, i was waiting for someone to ask that question. ive been constantly googling, expecting an onslaught of messages on blindy listservs expressing that same sentiment, and have come up empty. i hate not being able to press h to jump from news item to news item and to have to wade through all this crap to find anything remotely interesting. glad to hear someone is as pissed off as I am. - Original Message - From: Derek Lane To: talk2 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile So, I'm going to ask the same question that many have asked around the net; anyone manage to get the old facebook back? I've yet too, and I've spent more time on trying to get said version back than editing church things PDAudio stuff, and things I actually get paid to do. Oh well. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3469 (20080924) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3469 (20080924) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile
Just so I can put my few cents worth in here: . Though the new facebook may be trying, there are certain little features that jaws users - it is this market that I target in particular being a user myself - have ignored, though being slightly more arduous than others. Firstly, the news feed from what I can see has little graphics dotting a lot of the little articles which you could navigate with G and Shift=G - although I think that whinging about little things of pressing the arrow keys is quite immaterial. . If you are finding the lack of headings a problem, establish a permanant placemarkers set for specific points in the page to which you can jump between. . If such avenues become too difficult you can - as previously mentioned - use things like M.facebook.com which without the nice fancy things the established facebook has allow with simple rendering your ease of use. I'm not sitting here and advocating that the new facebook is bad or good or the lack of vision of users I'm simply stating some methods that you might use to get around a tricky situation. However, the amount of users who dislike the new facebook hasn't been entirely unnoticed because at least 1,500,000 has attracted the media's attention here in Australia. - Original Message - From: Tasha Raella Chemel To: talk2 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile i guess that's a valid point, but come on. How hard would it have been for them to put in some heading navigation? Having to scroll through all that excess garbage really detracts from my enjoyment of the site. - Original Message - From: Amy Billman To: talk2 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:17 AM Subject: Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile At the risk of starting a blindy uprising, I'd venture to guess that the reason why nothing has shown up in blindy lists in the online universe, is because other than the headings being taken out, (which is probably the only valid gripe that people disliking the new fb have,) it really comes down to something as simple as folks not liking a change and being ripped out of their comfort zone. They're not gonna change it back guys, so get over it. Yes... The profile page is kinda nasty in spots, and removing applications is sort of a pain in the almighty asshole, but it's still totally doable. Personally I like what they did with the news feed by making it in a chronological order, and they needed to have it so you could comment on statuses... That one was a long time in coming. If you really feel the needfor something easier and faster, you can check out m.facebook.com in Firefox, but (at least I can't anyway) access the applications that way. *Sheepishly retreats back into my corner* You learn to love, not by finding a perfect person, but by learning to see an imperfect person perfectly. Amy Billman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messenger ID's: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aim: amyk0223 Skype: amyb0223 www.myspace.com/clutchfan74 - Original Message - From: Derek Lane To: talk2 Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:01 AM Subject: Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile There are several I'm sure, but those who took the time probably complained with the hundreds who have already done so. Thing is, I'm not for playing the blind card usually, but if I could talk/write to someone withpower, explaining why the old facebook was nice, rather than just saying how bad the new one is, I may hopefully make an impression. Like you, I must confess that I am surprised that one of the hard core advocates, who would normally start a petition about practically anything hasn't clamped on to this and ran screaming quite loudly. - Original Message - From: Tasha Raella Chemel To: talk2 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:52 PM Subject: Re: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile god, i was waiting for someone to ask that question. ive been constantly googling, expecting an onslaught of messages on blindy listservs expressing that same sentiment, and have come up empty. i hate not being able to press h to jump from news item to news item and to have to wade through all this crap to find anything remotely interesting. glad to hear someone is as pissed off as I am. - Original Message - From: Derek Lane To: talk2 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: The Talk2 List new facebook is a pile So, I'm going to ask the same question that many have asked around the net; anyone manage to get the old facebook back? I've yet too, and I've spent more time on trying to get said version back than editing church things
