RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Amanda Rush
happened to you. Good to see you're still around. Amanda -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:35 To: talk2 Subject: RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Guys just displaying

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
, 2010 17:35 To: talk2 Subject: RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Guys just displaying understandable anger over loss of access. Barry -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Hicks Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:45 PM

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
was wondering what had happened to you. Good to see you're still around. Amanda -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:35 To: talk2 Subject: RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Guys

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Brandon Hicks
happened to you. Good to see you're still around. Amanda -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:35 To: talk2 Subject: RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Guys just displaying

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Onj
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Also, the WFA concept of free life time upgrades also put a nail in its coffin. Wheres the insentive for Vodaphone to develop a program which wont bring them any sort of positive cash flow? This is a gps program and it needs updated data

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
this is something I've been pondering for the last 2 weeks after a conversation with onj the Asterisk pbx uses a bounty system to get stuff done. So, basically you take donations for 3-9 months, then offer the money to developers to complete the project. and the project that I invision is an

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread shaun everiss
and all these other nice new technologies they don't officially support. -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Doug Langley Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:12 To: talk2 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Also, the WFA

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm do it anyway. Ok I can't prommise any donations but I am part admin of a podcast site, I can submit material for inclusion, I can probably promote the project heck could even get my own section basedon that project if I wished at least I think I can. At 06:32 a.m. 3/03/2010, you wrote:

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get them is to insult everybody? I won't sign now simply because of the author's attitude, despite his good intentions. Steve On 3/1/2010 2:12 PM, Onj wrote: I haven't seen a message on this list for months. Why not let the

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Daniel R
Agreed Steve. Maybe if he was nicer, and asked kindly, i would have considered it. Luckily you posted, because right to the delete button I was going. On 3/1/10, Stephen Clower st...@steve-audio.net wrote: So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get them is to insult

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Onj
you're not head of a large blindy organisation, though. And though I agree with your standpoint, to a point, if I ask you, will you sign instead? I'm asking as someone who, unless Loadstone really decides to do something useful, will have no GPS undder his platform. You have Mobile Geo and

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread shaun everiss
hmph. well I myself think simbian rocks. win mobile, well from what I hear it crashes like no one's business. On that note wander why no one has designed something around a linux distro, ubuntu, maybe nvda and something else. could probably work to. and you could run linux apps on your mobile.

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
Given what's out there right now, it can't be done. Platforms are very, very different, and a lot of what products like Orca or NVDA need to operate aren't present on handsets. Android is based on Linux, by the way. A screen reader is in the works, and while it's not very useful now, it may be

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread shaun everiss
hmph. thought symbian was opensource. oh well what exactly will we all use after all that goes away. not that I care much there will probably be for the forseeable future old phones mine still works. I suppose we will have to use all the broken windows and simlinux systems then. android looks

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
It's open source, but to release it that way, Nokia had to remove a lot of closed-source components that are critical to the platform itself. If you compiled and installed what's on the internet right now, you'd end up with a brick. Steve On 3/1/2010 5:11 PM, shaun everiss wrote: hmph.

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Doug Langley
and, symbian is changing the UI to a better GUI which is visually appealing and doesnt look like a dos app from 1996. Tthe problem with this new GUI is its very lacking in the accessibility department. and will probably take screen reader venders several years to redesign things to work with