RE: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
I am using Microsoft 365 Outlook and it calls the folder holding deleted messages, "bin". Alison ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
That's right; I forgot about the junk folder in windows live mail. But when
I delete a message, it goes to the deleted items folder. Pam.
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From: brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 1:46 PM
To: CJ MAY via Talk
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Subject: Re: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
I have both a junk folder and a trash folder in Thunderbird. I clear
both out by selecting select all followed by shift delete.
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Re: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
What do you mean by the bin folder? Do you mean the recycle bin? That's
the only trash folder I know of. The only other thing like that I know of
is the deleted items folder in the email program. Pam.
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Am I right though, that the deleted messages actually go to the "bin"
folder? Only unwanted ads etc. go to your "trash" folder?
Alison
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Re: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
That's one reason I have never had it set to empty the deleted items folder
when I shut the computer off, no matter what email program I use. This way,
I control when I get rid of the messages. The only time I use shift delete
is when I have a message that won't delete the normal way. Pam.
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From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 12:14 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Re: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
Well, some of us use shift-delete. There is no going back from that
one. Also, if one should think they are finished with email and close
the program, there goes the trash on many systems. So, it is not always
so easy to bring back something from the trash folder. One must
remember they needed that file before leaving the mail program. I have
personally tried to help others that have lost files this way. The only
way to be sure a message is not deleted until you delete it from the
trash is to make certain that "empty trash on exit" is turned off. This
means you will have to empty the trash as you go along.
Carol
On 3/1/2018 11:42 AM, David via Talk wrote:
For all members of the list,
As a friendly reminder:
We all eventually touch that Delete-key, when it was inconvenient. That
important message should not have been deleted; and what do you do now?
First of all, all the mail clients I have been in touch with, do have a
Trash folder. Whenever you hit the Delete-key, messages typically are
moved there. They are not altered, or modified in any way. As a matter
of fact, do you go to the trash folder of your mail program, you can
quickly "re-insert" the message, back inot the folder it originally
belonged to. So, before asking the group members to send out yet another
message, generating extra clutter on the list, and taking up time from
others, may you please check your trash folder first.
One thing is, when you have deleted a message that is several days,
weeks or even months old. It then could be a mess to try refinding it in
the trash folder. But if you know it is only a few days ago the original
message was received, it should be not too hard to bring it back on-stage.
Oh for sure, there is a way to permanently delete a message. It might
often be a combo with the delete-key, like Shift-Del, or Ctrl-Del -
depending on your mail client. Did you happen to use that combo when
deleting the message? Please, don't despair all yet. At the bottom of
any message from the list, there is a short note that reads:
List archives can be found at
http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
How about that? Smiles.
And then, what if you are using a web-based mail service? I was under
the impression that even those services do offer the Trash feature,
although they might name it indifferently.
OK, was it only a short note you are looking for, like a mail address or
some subscription information, it might not be too hard for others to
retype and resend the info. But what about when you ask for a
wtep-through guide of some sort? Besides, even refinding subscription
info or the like, might take a bit of time from others, in their sincere
wish to help you out.
Again, I did not mean to discourage anyone from asking questions on the
list. I just wanted to remind all, that sometimes our mistakes do call
for a tiny bit of fooling around, on our own computer. Smiles. Let's ask
the list, when we do not have a chance of getting to the info ourselves,
or when we know someone might have an answer that works the best.
this list is not the worst, believe me. I have seen lists where people
tend to ask the same old questions over and over again, or spread the
same old story or other information. It seems no trouble, it is only a
line or two. But did you all know, an electronic mail holds numerous
lines. It has a load of technical information enclosed, to let the
servers between you and the recipient know how to handle the message. If
the mail is written in HTML, it will hold loads and hives of coding.
All-in-all, even if you only typed in 23 characters, your actual load on
the net servers might be more like 1000. In today's world, 1000
characters, or approx one Kilobyte, might seem harmless. But what do you
think, if one thousand users do the same? Or even, remember when you ask
a question, someone has to reply, and their reply might hold even a copy
of your message, raising the total load into the multiples. As a matter
of fact, even small clutter on every list, might bgenerate tons of
unnecessary net resources. And net resources are not out of the blue.
They do take servers to spin, fans to cool, and distribution centrals
for the cabling to operate. All of this takes electricity. Well, not
much to bother, but still might be worth to remind us all sometimes.
BTW, it was told on the radio the other day, that when you have a video
conference with yo
Re: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
Hi, can you e-mail me off list? I have a TB question regarding two junk folders, thanks. nicksara...@msn.com On 3/1/2018 1:46 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote: > I have both a junk folder and a trash folder in Thunderbird. I clear > both out by selecting select all followed by shift delete. > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
I have both a junk folder and a trash folder in Thunderbird. I clear both out by selecting select all followed by shift delete. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
Also remember that Youtube and its parent company Google can be valuable resource. There are likely thousands of videos and podcasts on any subject (no matter how obscure) you can imagine. On 3/1/2018 11:42 AM, David via Talk wrote: > For all members of the list, > > As a friendly reminder: > > > We all eventually touch that Delete-key, when it was inconvenient. That > important message should not have been deleted; and what do you do now? > > > First of all, all the mail clients I have been in touch with, do have a > Trash folder. Whenever you hit the Delete-key, messages typically are > moved there. They are not altered, or modified in any way. As a matter > of fact, do you go to the trash folder of your mail program, you can > quickly "re-insert" the message, back inot the folder it originally > belonged to. So, before asking the group members to send out yet another > message, generating extra clutter on the list, and taking up time from > others, may you please check your trash folder first. > > > One thing is, when you have deleted a message that is several days, > weeks or even months old. It then could be a mess to try refinding it in > the trash folder. But if you know it is only a few days ago the original > message was received, it should be not too hard to bring it back on-stage. > > > Oh for sure, there is a way to permanently delete a message. It might > often be a combo with the delete-key, like Shift-Del, or Ctrl-Del - > depending on your mail client. Did you happen to use that combo when > deleting the message? Please, don't despair all yet. At the bottom of > any message from the list, there is a short note that reads: > > > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > How about that? Smiles. > > And then, what if you are using a web-based mail service? I was under > the impression that even those services do offer the Trash feature, > although they might name it indifferently. > > OK, was it only a short note you are looking for, like a mail address or > some subscription information, it might not be too hard for others to > retype and resend the info. But what about when you ask for a > wtep-through guide of some sort? Besides, even refinding subscription > info or the like, might take a bit of time from others, in their sincere > wish to help you out. > > Again, I did not mean to discourage anyone from asking questions on the > list. I just wanted to remind all, that sometimes our mistakes do call > for a tiny bit of fooling around, on our own computer. Smiles. Let's ask > the list, when we do not have a chance of getting to the info ourselves, > or when we know someone might have an answer that works the best. > > this list is not the worst, believe me. I have seen lists where people > tend to ask the same old questions over and over again, or spread the > same old story or other information. It seems no trouble, it is only a > line or two. But did you all know, an electronic mail holds numerous > lines. It has a load of technical information enclosed, to let the > servers between you and the recipient know how to handle the message. If > the mail is written in HTML, it will hold loads and hives of coding. > All-in-all, even if you only typed in 23 characters, your actual load on > the net servers might be more like 1000. In today's world, 1000 > characters, or approx one Kilobyte, might seem harmless. But what do you > think, if one thousand users do the same? Or even, remember when you ask > a question, someone has to reply, and their reply might hold even a copy > of your message, raising the total load into the multiples. As a matter > of fact, even small clutter on every list, might bgenerate tons of > unnecessary net resources. And net resources are not out of the blue. > They do take servers to spin, fans to cool, and distribution centrals > for the cabling to operate. All of this takes electricity. Well, not > much to bother, but still might be worth to remind us all sometimes. > > BTW, it was told on the radio the other day, that when you have a video > conference with your friend - say over services like Skype, the two of > you are actually generating loads of net resource consumption. > "Ah," you might think, "Can't really amount into anything much. After > all, it is all electronics!" > Surprise! At least I got quite astonished, when learning that such a > simple video conference, actually consumes electrical power, equal to > that of having TWO refridgerators running simultaneously and continiously. > > Anyone wondered why we pay for our internet subscription? Smiles. > > > On 3/1/2018 4:31 PM, BK via Talk wrote: >> Hello, the other day someone posted the address to join the NVDA email >> list. I accidently deleted it. Will you please resend the info to join >> that list? Sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks. >> >> Butch >> >> ___ >> Any views or
RE: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
Am I right though, that the deleted messages actually go to the "bin" folder? Only unwanted ads etc. go to your "trash" folder? Alison ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list
Well, some of us use shift-delete. There is no going back from that one. Also, if one should think they are finished with email and close the program, there goes the trash on many systems. So, it is not always so easy to bring back something from the trash folder. One must remember they needed that file before leaving the mail program. I have personally tried to help others that have lost files this way. The only way to be sure a message is not deleted until you delete it from the trash is to make certain that "empty trash on exit" is turned off. This means you will have to empty the trash as you go along. Carol On 3/1/2018 11:42 AM, David via Talk wrote: For all members of the list, As a friendly reminder: We all eventually touch that Delete-key, when it was inconvenient. That important message should not have been deleted; and what do you do now? First of all, all the mail clients I have been in touch with, do have a Trash folder. Whenever you hit the Delete-key, messages typically are moved there. They are not altered, or modified in any way. As a matter of fact, do you go to the trash folder of your mail program, you can quickly "re-insert" the message, back inot the folder it originally belonged to. So, before asking the group members to send out yet another message, generating extra clutter on the list, and taking up time from others, may you please check your trash folder first. One thing is, when you have deleted a message that is several days, weeks or even months old. It then could be a mess to try refinding it in the trash folder. But if you know it is only a few days ago the original message was received, it should be not too hard to bring it back on-stage. Oh for sure, there is a way to permanently delete a message. It might often be a combo with the delete-key, like Shift-Del, or Ctrl-Del - depending on your mail client. Did you happen to use that combo when deleting the message? Please, don't despair all yet. At the bottom of any message from the list, there is a short note that reads: List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com How about that? Smiles. And then, what if you are using a web-based mail service? I was under the impression that even those services do offer the Trash feature, although they might name it indifferently. OK, was it only a short note you are looking for, like a mail address or some subscription information, it might not be too hard for others to retype and resend the info. But what about when you ask for a wtep-through guide of some sort? Besides, even refinding subscription info or the like, might take a bit of time from others, in their sincere wish to help you out. Again, I did not mean to discourage anyone from asking questions on the list. I just wanted to remind all, that sometimes our mistakes do call for a tiny bit of fooling around, on our own computer. Smiles. Let's ask the list, when we do not have a chance of getting to the info ourselves, or when we know someone might have an answer that works the best. this list is not the worst, believe me. I have seen lists where people tend to ask the same old questions over and over again, or spread the same old story or other information. It seems no trouble, it is only a line or two. But did you all know, an electronic mail holds numerous lines. It has a load of technical information enclosed, to let the servers between you and the recipient know how to handle the message. If the mail is written in HTML, it will hold loads and hives of coding. All-in-all, even if you only typed in 23 characters, your actual load on the net servers might be more like 1000. In today's world, 1000 characters, or approx one Kilobyte, might seem harmless. But what do you think, if one thousand users do the same? Or even, remember when you ask a question, someone has to reply, and their reply might hold even a copy of your message, raising the total load into the multiples. As a matter of fact, even small clutter on every list, might bgenerate tons of unnecessary net resources. And net resources are not out of the blue. They do take servers to spin, fans to cool, and distribution centrals for the cabling to operate. All of this takes electricity. Well, not much to bother, but still might be worth to remind us all sometimes. BTW, it was told on the radio the other day, that when you have a video conference with your friend - say over services like Skype, the two of you are actually generating loads of net resource consumption. "Ah," you might think, "Can't really amount into anything much. After all, it is all electronics!" Surprise! At least I got quite astonished, when learning that such a simple video conference, actually consumes electrical power, equal to that of having TWO refridgerators running simultaneously and continiously. Anyone wondered why we pay for our internet subscription? Smiles. On 3/1/2018 4:31 PM, BK via Talk wrote: Hello, the
