Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2016-07-12 Thread Mark Wagner
There are three major problems with What3Words: 1) There's no way to reduce precision. I can say "the left front door of the Avista central office building", but I can't say "the Avista headquarters campus" or "downtown Spokane". 2) There's no correlation of names between adjacent locations.

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-24 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:49:56 +0200 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > > On 24. Apr 2017, at 19:27, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > > > With duplicate, I mean cycleways that are both > > - tagged as cycleway=* on a highway=* way and > > -

Re: [OSM-talk] HDYC, login requirement and "privacy"

2017-05-05 Thread Mark Wagner
On Fri, 5 May 2017 12:34:14 +0200 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2017-05-05 12:24 GMT+02:00 Frederik Ramm : > > > I think that even if they are careful enough not to use their real > > name, the identity of a mapper will often be easy to reconstruct if

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 06:49:40 -0500 (CDT) Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Andy Mabbett wrote: > > in different parts of the world > > IIRC OSM stores spatial information. I might be wrong. > Two examples that can't be resolved by a spatial query: 1) There is a business near

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-26 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:11:52 -0400 Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM objects whose wikipedia > tag does not match their wikidata tag. Most of them are Wikipedia > redirects, whose target is the right wikipedia article. What about the

Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?

2017-11-25 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 17:08:00 +0100 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > > On 24. Nov 2017, at 11:00, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > > > In general there are many possible reasons why you would want to > > map a school with a node. Like: >

Re: [OSM-talk] CC0 in UK, CC0 in USA, sui generis database right and Wikidata

2017-11-05 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 11:47:22 +0100 Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > tl;dr > > It may be not OK to import data from Wikidata despite that this > database is CC0 (adding wikipedia/wikidata tags is still OK, but this > connection is mostly useless for adding data into OSM). > > It

Re: [OSM-talk] Sudden influx of bad HOTosm edits in West Bank

2017-10-29 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:15:18 +0200 Safwat Halaby wrote: > - Adding closed ways with area=yes instead of building=yes, or with no > tags at all A closed way with "area=yes" is a *very* common newbie mistake with iD: the user traced an area, then forgot to tag it, or didn't

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-04 Thread Mark Wagner
Japanese has three *alphabets* (well, two syllabaries and a set of logographs), but only one writing system. For any given thing you want to write, there's only one correct set of symbols to use. -- Mark On Fri, 4 May 2018 08:11:14 +0200 Jo wrote: > Japanese has 3

Re: [OSM-talk] How to teach novices about optimal changeset size?

2018-01-17 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:51:38 +0100 Tobias Zwick wrote: > So, what is the optimal changeset size, and why? > For a novice? One building, or a short stretch of road, or a small park. They'll almost always make mistakes, and small changesets let you suggest better ways of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-18 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 19:44:47 +0100 Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > Imre, > > It is very good and surprising idea. > > I discovered on the page "Error categories" a tool > https://www.keepright.at/ with the help of which I found already > dozens obviously misspelled

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-17 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 06:14:17 +0100 Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > Good morning, > > I started to experiment with the OSM data [1] on a local computer, > and I begin to realize how big these data files are. It takes quite a > while to load into the local database just the

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-14 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:39:29 + Dave F wrote: > I think I have read it correctly. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5408566797 > > It is easy to determine this shared node is part of the roundabout as > well as the entrance from Wapping & can exit along

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:14:42 -0200 Fernando Trebien wrote: > Landing on this discussion several months late. I've just heard of it > by reading a wiki talk page [1]. > > Since 13 February 2009, the wiki [2] criticises highway classification > as

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

2018-08-10 Thread Mark Wagner
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:32:50 -0700 Vao Matua wrote: > Plus code can be calculated on the fly, but if they are > to be used we will need to have hardcopy maps with the addresses that > can be used to direct aid workers to a specific location. Plus codes form a hierarchical grid, so supporting

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-08-23 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 22:58:07 +0200 Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Wednesday 22 August 2018, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > > > Specifying addr:street on a building that does not have an address > > > is either pointless or non-verifiable. > > > > But this happens here :-) > > Sometimes they are

Re: [OSM-talk] How to get an overview of multiple gpx on OSM map?

2018-11-03 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:09:12 + _ dikkeknodel wrote: > Hi all, > > Ever since I moved to Switzerland over a year ago I’ve been both > hiking in the mountains and updating OSM details a lot. Since I hike > at least 20 km every weekend, it must have totaled to about 1200 km > by now all across

Re: [OSM-talk] "Travel like a KLocal" series of printed maps

2018-10-09 Thread Mark Wagner
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 16:48:56 +0200 Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > someone has written to DWG because they were disappointed with a > "Travel like a Local" map they bought on Amazon. Apparently there's > an author there named "Maxwell Fox" who churns out these "Books" > which promise, among other

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-17 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 14:31:14 +0200 Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2018-12-17, pr, 11:00 Martin Koppenhoefer rašė: > > for admin boundaries there will often be at least 2 "true" document > > sources: one for each party / side. They are also often observable, > > at least punctually. > > I wonder,

Re: [OSM-talk] Software configuration | Re: iD influencing tagging

2019-04-11 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 03:17:27 -0400 Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 2:10 AM Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > > * easy to edit by community > > > > I am dubious whatever "anybody can > > edit any preset stored as wikidata > > items" will be considered as benefit > > > > One

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Mark Wagner
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:02:59 +0100 Dave F via talk wrote: > On 14/06/2019 07:57, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Edits would be split to not create overly large bounding boxes. > > As long as it's clearly commented, I wouldn't loose any sleep over > the physical size of the changeset. OSM should

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

2019-09-11 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:33:05 +0200 Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > A even crazier area regarding the abuse of the cliff tag ! > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/50.9610/14.0724 > Doesn't look crazy to me. From what I saw on the map,

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

2019-09-11 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 20:54:17 +0200 Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > > On 11 Sep 2019, at 20:20, Mark Wagner wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:33:05 +0200 > > Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > > > >> A even crazier area regarding t

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:53:07 -0400 Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:19 AM Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > speaking about risks, having an incomplete network of verified, > > correct roads is probably more useful and less troublesome than an > > "overcomplete" one which also

Re: [OSM-talk] Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-03 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 16:55:43 +0100 Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > You can assist from time to time in mapping the areas were there is > one or another trouble, like a military conflict, or a natural or > technogenic disaster. The list can be found here: >

Re: [OSM-talk] OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-11 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 09:03:45 -0800 stevea wrote: > On Feb 8, 2020, at 2:58 AM, Rory McCann wrote: > > On 07.02.20 20:12, stevea wrote: > >> A well-known example is (national, other) boundaries, which > >> frequently do not exist "on the ground," > > National borders don't exist on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

2020-02-21 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:25:48 +0100 Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Thursday 20 February 2020, Simon Poole wrote: > > > > Artificial "yes", but the main thing is that it is small enough to > > ensure that it will essentially never be a substantial extract, on > > the other hand large enough that

Re: [OSM-talk] no-go-areas

2019-12-31 Thread Mark Wagner
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 16:14:30 +0100 Martin Trautmann wrote: > hi all, > > did you read about the Suisse tourist couple which was shot because > they got lost in a Brasilian favela? > > NZZ (Neue Zürcher Zeitung) from Tuesday 31.12.2019. ("Schweizer > Ehepaar bei Irrfahrt duch Favela in

Re: [OSM-talk] Strava high resolution heatmap

2020-03-31 Thread Mark Wagner
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:56:32 -0400 Jmapb via talk wrote: > I probably wouldn't be comfortable adding paths based on Strava data > alone even if they did have an explicitly ODBL compatible license. > Just because there are GPS traces doesn't mean there's a path (plenty > of popular bushwacking

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-18 Thread Mark Wagner
Almost all of the tracktype mapping around me has been done by armchair mappers working from from aerial images. Tracks in my area are usually produced in one of two ways: * A bulldozer is used to scrape vegetation and topsoil off. * A given route is driven repeatedly, eroding any vegetation or

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

2020-06-20 Thread Mark Wagner
On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 23:45:57 +0200 Florian Lohoff wrote: > Hi Nick, > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:47:01AM +, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > > > (Disclaimer: I am the developer of said project) > > > > You can login using your OSM account. > > The issue is that once you start pushing stuff

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

2020-06-28 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 22:01:57 +0200 "Marc M." wrote: > Le 26.06.20 à 14:09, Florian Lohoff a écrit : > >> I don't care about SLA. Does OSM have SLA? > > The point is when you distribute your storage to people at > > home we will have at most 10% of images online all the time. > > what facts

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 08:03:11 +0200 Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:19:46AM -0400, James wrote: > > No they shouldn't, mapping roads in northern Canada, your bbox can > > become quite large quickly as mapping logging roads/dirt roads is > > quick and easy, but span over

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing all signposts from relations

2020-07-25 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:14:14 +0200 pangoSE wrote: > Hi > > Recently it was discussed whether to have signposts in route > relations. I suggest we delete them from all relations by running a > script. I se no loss of information doing that and a benefit to data > consumers wanting to sort and

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

2016-06-06 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:21:07 -0700 Dion Dock wrote: > I think the rural residential roads are either “highway=service”, > “highway=track” or “highway=path”. I think “highway=residential” > should always have a name. Service might or might not have a name, > same for path

Re: [Talk-us] .... finding areas that are underserved

2016-11-13 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 22:22:06 -0500 Russ Nelson wrote: > Markus Fischer writes: > > I am new to this and the area where I live is very well mapped > > (probably due to high density of tech workers). Where do I go to > > start mapping areas that are less well mapped (me

Re: [Talk-us] Is this a bad import or an experiment?

2017-03-23 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 06:12:09 -0500 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Bill Ricker > wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Clifford Snow > > wrote: > > > I map driveway when the house is set a

Re: [Talk-us] Speed limit editing in Detroit

2017-05-05 Thread Mark Wagner
On Fri, 5 May 2017 12:55:55 + Horea Meleg wrote: > Hello all,, > Me and my Telenav colleagues are planning to start editing speed > limit in Detroit area and we found the following situation: > > 1. There's a trunk road which continues with a motorway but we >

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

2017-10-15 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:40:16 -0700 Bradley White wrote: > If we can determine importance (which is what the 'highway=' tag > fundamentally represents per the wiki) solely by what's on the ground, > why not just tag what's physically there, ditch the 'highway' tag >

Re: [Talk-us] Recent Aerial Photo Imagery Changes

2017-09-26 Thread Mark Wagner
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 11:07:55 +0300 Rihards wrote: > On 2017.09.26. 03:09, David Wisbey wrote: > > Fellow mappers, > > > > So what's up with the recent changes in our aerial photo imagery? > > > > It used to be so simple and I followed the rule(?) of making sure > > features

Re: [Talk-us] Missing imagery in JOSM

2017-09-27 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 12:14:03 -0400 "Mark Bradley" wrote: > What happened to the USGS topographic map imagery that was available > in JOSM until a few days ago? Still there for me, though something's changed: when you zoom out, it no longer switches away from the

Re: [Talk-us] dubious church node

2017-09-30 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:11:06 +0700 Dave Swarthout wrote: > "Second, many entries have their coordinates specified using the old > NAD 27 datum, but somewhere along the line, that fact was lost and the > coordinates were assumed to be in either NAD 83 or WGS 84. This >

Re: [Talk-us] dubious church node

2017-09-30 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 06:56:31 +0700 Dave Swarthout wrote: > Glad you mentioned that GNIS import, Ian. > > This isn't a pressing issue but I've been doing considerable mapping > in Alaska and encounter GNIS features constantly. Many of them are > nodes and refer to mines,

Re: [Talk-us] Multipolygonizing

2017-11-20 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:15:01 -0800 Evin Fairchild wrote: > (I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to add a way to a > relation!) Select a way currently part of the relation. Shift-click on the way you want to add. Select "Update multipolygon" from the "Tools"

Re: [Talk-us] Maximum number of tasks on US tasker

2018-05-08 Thread Mark Wagner
What I've observed is that MapRoulette works well with tasks that are highly localized and don't require much thinking. "A road crosses a railroad here: should it be a crossing, or a bridge?" is a good MapRoulette task, because unusual situations are rare, and the user doesn't need to consider

Re: [Talk-us] Rural US: Correcting Original TIGER Imported Ways

2018-02-13 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 12:11:29 -0800 OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > Remember, after you review tags and alignment of TIGER data, REMOVE > the tiger:reviewed=no tag, don't change its value to yes. I don't remove the "tiger:reviewed=no" tag unless I've verified the name

Re: [Talk-us] Rural US: Correcting Original TIGER Imported Ways

2018-02-13 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:25:02 -0800 OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > Anyway, what is the current best practice dealing with TIGER tags > > once the road has been surveyed and corrected? Remove all

Re: [Talk-us] Satus CDP

2018-02-26 Thread Mark Wagner
Satus has a population of 750 people scattered across 70 square miles of farmland. The largest population center I've been able to find from aerial imagery has ten buildings, three of which look rather abandoned in Google Street View. Looking through Google Books results, it definitely *was* a

Re: [Talk-us] US Bureau of Land Management Boundaries

2019-01-06 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 21:19:10 -0600 Ian Dees wrote: > Hi Brad, thanks for proposing this import and posting it here. > > I would strongly prefer that we not import boundaries like this into > OSM. Boundaries of all sorts are almost impossible to verify with > OSM's "on the ground" rule, but BLM

Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-17 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 02:13:46 -0500 Aaron Forsythe wrote: > zip codes – Zip codes are USPS routing codes. They do not align to > cities and may even cross over each other often. USPS only uses the > city field on mail as a backup to zip codes. They fudge the cities > intentionally to make it

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

2019-03-21 Thread Mark Wagner
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:46:59 -0600 Martijn van Exel wrote: > > On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Mateusz Konieczny > > wrote: > > > > I plan to run an automated edit that will revert part of the GNIS > > import that added them and delete objects that never had any reason > > to appear in the OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

2019-03-22 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 13:23:48 -0600 Martijn van Exel wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Mark Wagner > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:46:59 -0600 > > Martijn van Exel mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote: > > > >>> On Ma

Re: [Talk-us] Typical maxweight signs in USA? (editor developmnent question)

2019-06-25 Thread Mark Wagner
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 08:47:39 -0700 Peter Dobratz wrote: > > Reading this page, I see the potential ambiguity extends deeper than I > realized (short ton, metric ton, long ton) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonne > "Ton" in the United States is *always* the "short ton" of 2000 pounds. --

Re: [Talk-us] Jefferson Notch Road and latest "GPS made me do it" in the news

2020-01-03 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:47:35 -0500 Bill Ricker wrote: > Kevin asks, > > is Jefferson Notch Road actually closed to wheeled vehicles in > > winter or > just not maintained? > > Per copyright news reports, it is signed as closed to wheeled > vehicles, open to snow-machines only, in winter. > (As

Re: [Talk-us] USGS Topos, "Draw", "Gulch", etc.

2020-06-01 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 11:56:57 -0600 Mike Thompson wrote: > Do the names on the USGS Topo Maps that end in "Draw", "Gulch", and > similar terms refer to a stream, or a valley? I have always assumed > a stream, and applied the name to waterway=stream in OSM, but perhaps > that is not correct. What

Re: [Talk-us] Cycleway Crossings

2020-08-07 Thread Mark Wagner
On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 07:11:01 -0400 (EDT) "Doug Peterson" wrote: > I have noticed in my area where some people have been adding > crossings to a designated cycleway (named and signed as a bike > trail). The crossings are fine. It is that the crossing is then been > changed to a footway. > > I

Re: [Talk-us] Potential Import of Addresses for Thurston County, WA, USA

2020-08-09 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 03:53:55 -0700 Raven King wrote: > Hello: > > I discovered that Thurston County, WA publishes a database of > addresses stored as gps pins inside a shape file. > The data can be found here: >

Re: [Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)

2020-06-21 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 21:45:19 +0900 tj-osmw...@lowsnr.net wrote: > Newby here. > > Started mapping an area of the Idaho panhandle around the Kootenai > river. I notice that currently minor roads have a "County Road nn" > name but TIGER2019 data also has names such as "Acacia Avenue". I > think

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Wagner
The problem with "suburb" is like the problem with "football": there are two meanings, and a very large population that doesn't know about the other meaning. That guarantees widespread misuse. -- Mark On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:55:55 -0400 Brian Stromberg wrote: > If suburb is a commonly