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> On 22. Sep 2017, at 17:22, SwiftFast <swiftf...@gmx.com> wrote:
> 
> There are many places to tag places. (node, way, admin area,
> landuse=residential, etc). This confuses me, and I assume it confuses
> many others. We need a comprehensive summary covering all cases.
> 
> Here's a draft: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Place_tagging_overv
> iew . It's likely inaccurate/incomplete. Please help me improve it.



the reason for the confusion is maybe, that there are different kind of things 
mapped in the same key (place). A country as administrative territorial entity  
is also covered by boundary=administrative and admin_level=2. Historically the 
place nodes for this kind of object had been needed because we couldn’t 
otherwise render these objects (too big/complex), e.g. with Osmarender. The 
precise intention of the tag isn’t very clear, because the wiki only says 
place=country is a tag for countries, but doesn’t specify what a country is, it 
does give a hint though that it is also for non “nation states”.

Wikipedia is more explicit and mentions several meanings: 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country

eg sovereign state, non-sovereign state, geografic region associated with sets 
of previously independent or differently associated people with distinct 
political characteristics.

Other place values like counties or municipalities would definitely not need to 
be mapped as places because they already are defined by their administrative 
boundaries.

For settlements the situation is somehow different (more like country), as the 
settlement land often doesn’t correspond to the political administrative 
territory with (often) the same name, simply because there’s (usually) space 
between on settlement and another.

I would be in favor of deprecating the use of place for things that are defined 
by administrative boundaries and of purely administrative nature (e.g. states, 
counties)

Cheers,
Martin 


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