Re: [Tango-L] Dancing socially to Piazzolla

2008-07-23 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
But I think that a problem with a lot of today's tango groups is that they don't have any idea what it means to play for dancing. I think the problem of musicians not having an idea of what it is like to play for dancers is less and less of an issue every year. I have not really

Re: [Tango-L] How do yoou know it is tango

2008-07-23 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
--- On Tue, 7/22/08, Jack Dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pupi Castello was correct and I think everyone who learns tango discovers this for himself. Which I suspect is why many people enjoy Nuevo. No need to worry about that pesky walk :-) Jack Well, I enjoy Nuevo because it's just

[Tango-L] Different feeling in tango

2008-07-23 Thread Sergio Vandekier
Jack says: Don't we talk a lot about the feeling of tango. I know it's very important to me [understatement!] and the feeling I have when I watch a man and a woman is completely different to when I watch a man and a man. They can both be fabulous and very enjoyable, but different. Hi Jack,

[Tango-L] Gratuitous insults and social tango

2008-07-23 Thread David Thorn
Which I suspect is why many people enjoy Nuevo. No need to worry about that pesky walk :-) I know that there is a smiley face at the end of this statement, but this nevertheless seems to me a rather gratuitously insulting remark, creating more heat than light, and perhaps reflecting

Re: [Tango-L] Gratuitous insults and social tango

2008-07-23 Thread Huck Kennedy
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:47 AM, David Thorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Dylan wrote: Which I suspect is why many people enjoy Nuevo. No need to worry about that pesky walk :-) I know that there is a smiley face at the end of this statement, but this nevertheless seems to me a rather

Re: [Tango-L] Gratuitous insults and social tango

2008-07-23 Thread David Thorn
Huck wrote: So you thought you'd top a light-hearted poke at a generalized style with a full-blown personal insult, calling Mr. Dylan ignorant? (Oh excuse me, perhaps ignorant.) Ooops. Touche. My apologies to Mr. Dylan. And although it does appear to be a time-honored tradition to mock

Re: [Tango-L] Tango Caricature

2008-07-23 Thread Niki Papapetrou
Just an aside: Capussi/Flores are the only couple in your list that dances (socially) in exactly the same way as they perform on stage (minus the costumes and make-up). Jack answers: 2 - Capussi Flores are from the theatrical school, they are hilarious, very funny, are they a caricature of

Re: [Tango-L] Gratuitous insults and social tango

2008-07-23 Thread Carol Shepherd
To me social dancing is, simply, any partner dance that is not choreographed and/or for competition. There are those who understand social dancing to customarily imply dancing around with multiple partners in one evening. For some of those, the intimacy of tango may be too much for more than

[Tango-L] The language of Tango

2008-07-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Every dance is a language of the body. Some dances are very limited in how many words they have, ways to pronounce those words, and how they can be combined into sentences and paragraphs and so on. Some have more range. What's unique about tango is that the range of its language is a full

Re: [Tango-L] Dancing socially to Piazzolla

2008-07-23 Thread steve pastor
When men and women have stopped being men and women and became amoebas ready to dance to anything in any role, why try to save anything?  You can't play a game where the players don't agree on the rules. And now I will go and swallow some anti-sarcasm drugs. Nina   While I appreciate Nina's

Re: [Tango-L] Dancing socially to Piazzolla

2008-07-23 Thread David Thorn
Joe Grohens wrote: It would be like playing, I don't know, Giant Steps, at a swing dance. Indeed. Giant Steps is 290BPM and not difficult for a decent Balboa dancer (but nearly impossible for any but the most spectacular Lindy Hopper). However, even most Balboa dancers would turn up their

[Tango-L] Dancing socially to Piazzolla

2008-07-23 Thread Joe Grohens
David Thorn wrote: It is one thing to say that I don't like to dance to Piazzolla, or I can't dance to Piazzolla, or that I have never heard Piazzolla played at a Milonga in BsAs, or even to say of course I can but why in the world would I ever want to?. It is an entirely different

Re: [Tango-L] Different feeling in tango

2008-07-23 Thread Dubravko Kakarigi
- Original Message From: Sergio Vandekier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tango-L List tango-l@mit.edu Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:52:21 AM Subject: [Tango-L] Different feeling in tango Jack says: Don't we talk a lot about the feeling of tango. I know it's very important to me

[Tango-L] The language of Tango

2008-07-23 Thread Leonardo Kunkello
Saludos para ti, Larry de Los Angeles Of all the postings in all the time I have been on this site this one of yours has been the most insightful and best scripted description and analogy for tango I have yet read. Well well well said. I love a house of many rooms I so tire of hearing

[Tango-L] The language of Tango

2008-07-23 Thread Joe Grohens
What's unique about tango is that the range of its language is a full order of magnitude (at least) more than any other social dance. It can be used on the stage to tell a story. Or to make an artistic statement that is like abstract art. Or make people laugh, as a string of jokes or

Re: [Tango-L] The language of Tango

2008-07-23 Thread Jack Dylan
Larry, As others have said - nice post; I also like the 'tango is a house of many rooms' analogy. The people who built this house, and their successors, the current guardians, are wonderful, generous people and they allow me to use the house whenever I want. They even allow me to take it to