[Tango-L] New Book: The Church of Tango: a Memoir

2012-01-23 Thread macfroggy
Hello listeros! Just to let you all know that my memoir, The Church of Tango, was published on Saturday. Not a typical tango book per se, nor a tango history, it is my passionate memoir of tragedy and adventure, lust and music, romance and tango, that takes place in four countries. It is my

Re: [Tango-L] the fear of close embrace

2010-09-17 Thread macfroggy
I believe the term close embrace as it relates to tango was coined by a native English speaker to distinguish it from the hold of ballroom. An embrace is an embrace. Do you embrace someone at arm's length in normal life? The tango embrace is the same as the embrace of someone you love,

[Tango-L] social ethical behavior

2010-08-31 Thread macfroggy
Vince, this is so inaccurate! If the porteno is under 30, he probably goes to practicas where anything goes. As a dancer who has lived and taught tango with my milonguero parter in BsAs for many years, let me assure you that the codigos are still respected and observed in all of the

Re: [Tango-L] World Champions

2010-08-31 Thread macfroggy
Yes they are, in Tango Salon. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Jack Dylan jackdylan...@yahoo.com To: Tango-L@mit.edu Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 2:54 pm Subject: [Tango-L] World Champions

[Tango-L] Fwd: social ethical behavior

2010-08-31 Thread macfroggy
This type of behavior can happen with foreign people, but never with a Porteño couple. -Original Message- From: Dubravko Kakarigi dubravko_2...@yahoo.com To: tango-l@MIT.EDU Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 3:10 pm Subject: Re: [Tango-L] social ethical behavior You may

Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviours and protocols

2010-08-06 Thread macfroggy
These rules apply more to the locals than visiting foreigners. There's quite a taboo against dancing with the woman of an Argentino, but not really with tourists. The locals understand that tourists are here to dance and perhaps don't know the codigos, so things are looser with foreigners, with

Re: [Tango-L] Music preferences

2010-08-06 Thread macfroggy
(Although I had heard that no one would dance when Gardel sings or is played, out of respect to him.) I believe Gardel is not danced because the tempos wax and wane and it truly is music for listening, not out of respect for him. There are many tangos that are not danced for the

[Tango-L] Death of tango?

2010-06-07 Thread macfroggy
Hola Vince, Don't worry--this blog post in my opinion was just extremist to get attention. I've lived here in BsAs for 7 years and the milongas I go to are just as packed with locals as ever--summer or winter, the Saturday afternoon Milonga de los Consagrados is always full of hundreds of

[Tango-L] Mass for Osvaldo Zotto

2010-01-27 Thread macfroggy
The following was sent to me this morning by Guillermo Thorp, the editor of Diostango Magazine here in BsAs. On Feb. 8 at 7:30 p.m. there will be a Mass in honor and memory of Osvaldo Zotto, in the Church of San Jose, Bartolome Mitre 2411, in Buenos Aires. All are welcome. Informo que

Re: [Tango-L] No Nuevo (as a style) - according to the Naveiras

2009-12-03 Thread macfroggy
Anton, The clubes de barrio are not always in the outskirts of BsAs, but just small social clubs in neighborhoods that tourists never go to. What makes them generally different to the big milongas everyone knows about is that Generally everyone knows each other and dance with their friends;

Re: [Tango-L] Map of BsAs Milongas??

2009-11-25 Thread macfroggy
Hola Mario, There's this map, with addresses and even photos of the milongas: http://bavenues.blogspot.com/ Suerte! cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu

Re: [Tango-L] Truth in Tango Advertising Tango Detente

2009-10-27 Thread macfroggy
It's all about the marketing. There's a new ad in the tango magazines here for classes in Tango Nuevo Milonguero !!! Now what in the heck is that? I'm sure the phrase will attract folks who want to be on the cutting edge and/or perhaps to dance both traditional and nuevo. I suppose the

Re: [Tango-L] Misc:Missing Magic

2009-10-12 Thread macfroggy
Did the world really change around me, or did my perception of the world change? That's the crux of the question, isn't it? Please tell me what in this world has not changed since 1993? Whether it's the same as it was then or not isn't relevant, especially to people who came to tango much

[Tango-L] Tango-L] Nuevo Milonguero

2009-10-04 Thread macfroggy
No, but in tradition-minded BsAs, dressing in elegant sport (no jeans, shorts, cargo pants, or athletic shoes), is in respect to the tango. Normally gentlemen wear nice slacks with a button shirt. Jackets or tuxedos are not necessary. cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com

Re: [Tango-L] Piazzolla is not played at Traditional Milongas

2009-08-22 Thread macfroggy
After the CroMagnon tragedy in 2004, one of the few milongas that was allowed to stay open was Club Espanol. Dany Borelli, the DJ, used Piazzolla as the cortina because all other music was banned. Or rather, for fear of being closed as were most of the milongas, only musica nacional was

Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight

2009-08-21 Thread macfroggy
Bettina, Piazolla is never danced in the traditional milongas of Buenos Aires. Never. Nor is Gardel or that Greek folksong so popular elsewhere, Tango for Ephora. But yes, the DJs of alternative milongas and practicas here play modern music and non-tango music on occasion. But only the young

Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight

2009-08-21 Thread macfroggy
Bettina, Do we live in the same city? I've lived for 6 years here in Buenos Aires and dance and teach tango with my partner, Ruben Aybar. We go to dance all the time at the traditional milongas, which NEVER play alternative music. It is most definitely not all mixed! Do you go to Region

Re: [Tango-L] Alex's Blog rules

2009-06-14 Thread macfroggy
I think the secret of making this an effective tool would be volume. If 100 students feel the workshop was well-taught and worth the trouble, then the comments of 2-3 dissenters could be taken in context. If only 10 folks participate and rate everyone on the list, then it would be useless.

Re: [Tango-L] First trip to Bs. As.

2009-04-13 Thread macfroggy
Well put, Charles. It's also good to choose milongas where people are more or less your same age, especially if you are over 35. Of course, a young beautiful girl who dances well, or even not that well, will dance anyplace she wants to! Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com

Re: [Tango-L] Way too much kicking

2009-03-25 Thread macfroggy
As luck would have it, last week my friend Gail Miller captured Amanda Lucero singing and dancing a solo tango in the bathroom of Los Consagrados, where Amanda works. Check it out on my blog: http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/2009/03/amanda-lucero-solo-tango.html cherie Sorry,

Re: [Tango-L] shocking sweat

2009-02-28 Thread macfroggy
Sometimes still an old milonguero will keep folded handkerchiefs in each palm as he embraces the woman, to avoid getting his sweat on her back or her right hand. Nice. cherie it?is your responsibility to find followers who do not drape themselves over you and who do not have an

Re: [Tango-L] Ideas for a Thematic Milonga

2008-11-12 Thread MACFroggy
There's a new milonga here in Buenos Aires in the barrio of Boedo (San Juan 3330), called Sueno Porteno on Wednesdays. The organizer, Julia Pugliese, makes games and themes every week: polka dots, colors, ladies give the men they would like to dance with a candy, etc. It's a very fun feminine

Re: [Tango-L] Milongueando 2009

2008-10-25 Thread MACFroggy
Hi Jack, It's a nice event organized by Susana Miller. Ruben and I were invited last year. But my personal opinion is that there is no need to come to BsAs specifically to attend an organized touristy festival. Much better to just come and take the lessons you want and go to the milongas

Re: [Tango-L] Best time to visit Buenos Aires

2008-09-23 Thread MACFroggy
Larry, The best time for tango dancers depends on more than the weather. Sure the weather is a consideration. For this reason, the tango tourists swarm into BsAs in the spring and fall, when the weather is the most mild and pleasant. This can be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your

Re: [Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit chat, was labor day complaint

2008-09-05 Thread MACFroggy
Here in Buenos Aires it's part of the codigos that because the tango is so intimate, between the music during the chit-chat time, there is no touching of the other person. Kind of a time to return to normal, before taking up the intimate embrace again. It's actually considered bad manners for a

Re: [Tango-L] Labor Day Festival:  a complaint

2008-09-02 Thread MACFroggy
I remember when I lived and danced in Los Angeles, one Argentine man there told me he used to hide out in the bathroom to get away from the aggressive women. And this was years and years ago. I can only imagine how much worse it is today. One woman friend from L.A. who I saw down here was being

[Tango-L] New nuevo tango Sacrifices Tradition and Grace

2008-04-16 Thread MACFroggy
Here's a great article by Terence Clarke on Tango Nuevo, with the popular DNI school in BsAs as an example of what he terms Playground Tango: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/15/125453.php http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site

[Tango-L] Closure of Nino Bien -- hopefully temporary

2008-04-01 Thread MACFroggy
Hola List! Last week there were problems of papeles regarding the upstairs salon of Region Leonesa, where the milogas of Nino Bien on Thursdays, as well as others on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday are held. For now the salon is closed without any idea of when there will be a

[Tango-L] New milonga in Buenos Aires

2008-03-30 Thread MACFroggy
Hola List, There's a fantastic new milonga that recently opened in Boedo, the barrio de tango: Boedo Tango San Juan 3330 4931-4028 Owner: Luis It's a very unusual locale, as it is upstairs from the Carrefour supermarket. A very large (same size as the supermarket below) elegant salon, with 3

Re: [Tango-L] Who invented the basic step?

2008-03-25 Thread MACFroggy
All I can say is that the word music (or musica) doesn't appear in the first 10 pages of the book. That's when I quit reading. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 3/25/08 4:15:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, the Dinzels ! Bought their book once, it looked like a

Re: [Tango-L] Bridge to the Tango

2008-02-25 Thread MACFroggy
The only tango instructional DVDs I recommend are Un Tal Gavito There are 3 in the series. Well worth getting. I'm sure everyone out there has their own favorite. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.

Re: [Tango-L] Wiggle

2008-02-12 Thread MACFroggy
I think what you describe is called by milongueros here in BsAs, armonisacion. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 2/12/08 3:10:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was asked, What's a wiggle?  I have to confess that see things and feel things in tango, but words

Re: [Tango-L] Apts?...Belle Epoque

2008-01-23 Thread MACFroggy
Hi Jerry, I don't know about this one, but I do know about a cute and cozy and quiet one-bedroom that my tanguero friend Raimundo rents. It's on Corrientes and Junin, very close to El Beso, El Arranque, Porteno. It's $160/wk and includes everything: cable, internet, maid, etc. You can see photos

Re: [Tango-L] Last tango in Bs. As.

2008-01-20 Thread MACFroggy
Yes, it's tradition, and when La Cumparsita begins, everyone on the floor applauds. It's so lovely. Other traditions are no female singers, and you're correct, it's bad luck to dance to Adios Muchachos. Also Carlos Gardel recordings are never played at milongas in Buenos Aires. Cherie

Re: [Tango-L] Milonga 101 --  convers ation between dances

2008-01-12 Thread MACFroggy
I remember Gavito talking about the men in the center of the floor between tandas making a mushroom. And the men who weren't successful in the cabeceo then went to the bathroom. Times change. http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

Re: [Tango-L] Buenos Aires Mystery

2007-12-04 Thread MACFroggy
Hi Holly, What you experienced is very common: local men think that foreign women don't know the codigos (and many don't), and so approach their tables to ask them to dance. Often these men can't get local women to dance with them. Or they just hope to profit from a newby's first time at a

Re: [Tango-L] Taxi dancer service,  N YC

2007-11-07 Thread MACFroggy
Hi Marty, Here's a crazy fantasy I had some time ago, obviously before Homeland Security and the near-impossibility of Argentines getting visas: THE MILAGRO MILONGUERO BUS Apropos of taxi dancers, I have a crazy idea to make American tangueras happy, Argentine milongueros some spare change and

Re: [Tango-L] Susana El Pial DVD

2007-09-13 Thread MACFroggy
Ron, I have a copy but I can't view it either on my computer or on my all-region DVD player. But I'll be happy to lend it to you. Maybe you can make it work. It plays, but at the wrong speed, with discoordinated sound. (I'll be in the U.S. briefly soon.) Cherie (54) 11 4932-5027

Re: [Tango-L] Switching roles

2007-09-12 Thread MACFroggy
Sometimes near the end of the milonga (Buenos Aires), Ruben and I exchange roles without stopping while dancing, and then switch back. We only go to conservative milongas and everyone knows us, but still, sometimes people look at us in shock. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/

Re: [Tango-L] Scenes from the milonga

2007-08-26 Thread MACFroggy
Dany was at Chique on Thursday as always. He's also the DJ at El Arranque on Mondays. Don't know what happend to him at Celia's. http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 8/26/07 8:12:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lo de Celia is the place I call my second home. ...  Dany