Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-18 Thread Krzysztof Trybowski
Hello Thomas, On Monday, September 17, 2007 Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello NetVicious, On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:49:07 +0200 GMT (17/09/2007, 04:49 +0700 GMT), NetVicious wrote: N I vote for HTML templates. I know a lot of people hates HTML, but N companies use this type of templates for add his

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello NetVicious, On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:49:07 +0200 GMT (17/09/2007, 04:49 +0700 GMT), NetVicious wrote: N I vote for HTML templates. I know a lot of people hates HTML, but N companies use this type of templates for add his logos, use colors on N the signature, etc. People should select between

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-16 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello George, On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:07:10 +0300 GMT (16/09/2007, 00:07 +0700 GMT), George M. Menegakis wrote: GMM The Bat! is an all powerful e-mail client. That's exaggerated. I'd say The Bat! is most likely the most powerful e-mail client for plain-text messages. :-) As has been pointed

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-16 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Thomas, Sunday, September 16, 2007, 3:26:19 PM, you wrote: Neither do I use calendars. But I think plug-ins are the way to go for those who want additional functionalities, as the ones do don't need it, don't need to be burdened (in the sense of computing power) by having them

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2007-09-16 Thread NetVicious
sábado, 15 sep 2007 at 10:47, it seems you wrote: Well, in my opinion the following topics would make The Bat much more valueable: - loading of pictures and external content manually inside the viewer It was debated long time ago with a lot of messages. Personally I will say ok if it's one

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Martin Schneider
Hello, Friday, September 14, 2007, 2:19:31 PM, you wrote: How about telling us what you have planed for the v4? It is a major version leap - so there should be something major new it?!? Well, in my opinion the following topics would make The Bat much more valueable: - loading of pictures

Re[2]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Van Noord
9/15/2007 7:44 AM Hi Martin, On 9/15/2007 Martin Schneider wrote: MS - Archiving Functionality (files with a special age are archived to MS one or more new datastore files). However it should be possible to MS have a view avaialble where you can see archived and non-archived MS mails. For me

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2007-09-15 Thread Gleason Pace
Martin, How about telling us what you have planed for the v4? It is a major version leap - so there should be something major new it?!? Well, in my opinion the following topics would make The Bat much more valueable: - loading of pictures and external content manually inside the viewer

Re[3]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Van Noord
9/15/2007 8:01 AM Hi Gleason, On 9/15/2007 Gleason Pace wrote: GP I think that graphic support is becoming necessary for programs that GP handle email because email so often includes graphics these days. Embedded graphics are supported. Do you trust all of those who do not embed? Not me! If

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2007-09-15 Thread Drago
Hey Martin, Well, in my opinion the following topics would make The Bat much more valueable: - loading of pictures and external content manually inside the viewer nice idea, i like this feature in thunderbird, but i do use plain text most of the time, but i do tend to check HTML messages

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2007-09-15 Thread Martin Schneider
Hello Paul, Saturday, September 15, 2007, 1:51:57 PM, you wrote: You can have this right now by creating an archival account. If you want annual separations create sub-folders. I bought TB in 1998 because I wanted a focused email client that securely did most of the work for me. I have not

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2007-09-15 Thread Martin Schneider
Hello Gleason, Saturday, September 15, 2007, 1:56:10 PM, you wrote: - RSS support But these are needs that can be filled many other ways, and are not really part of doing email well. They don't really add value to an email client as some others have found. Instead they add unnecessary

Re[4]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Martin Schneider
Hello Paul, Saturday, September 15, 2007, 2:05:29 PM, you wrote: GP But these are needs that can be filled many other ways, and are not GP really part of doing email well. They don't really add value to an GP email client as some others have found. Instead they add unnecessary GP complexity,

Re[5]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Van Noord
9/15/2007 9:54 AM Hi Martin, On 9/15/2007 Martin Schneider wrote: MS So important is: think different and look beside the borders. As previously stated by Gleason, integrated (suite) programs add many layers of complexity which make these programs unstable and unmanageable. ZoneAlarm is a

Re[4]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Van Noord
9/15/2007 10:08 AM Hi Martin, On 9/15/2007 Martin Schneider wrote: MS Not so easy. I have many subfolders. I want them automatically MS archived. And I focussed on an e-mail-client that offers most MS flexibility. As Netscape-Mail was not flexible enough I was using That MS Bat - and I am

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Martin, On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:47:26 +0200GMT (15-9-2007, 10:47 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MS Well, in my opinion the following topics would make The Bat much MS more valueable: MS - loading of pictures and external content manually inside the viewer Much more valuable is a bit

Re[4]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Gleason Pace
Paul, GP I think that graphic support is becoming necessary for programs that GP handle email because email so often includes graphics these days. Embedded graphics are supported. Do you trust all of those who do not embed? Not me! If the message has merit it can be opened in the browser

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Martin, on Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:28:04 +0200GMT (15.09.2007, 15:28 +0200GMT here), you wrote: MS I use a separate news client. When I want to send mails it always is a MS little bit messy - and more when you have to use more than one MS e-mail-client on a computer. So I manually have to copy

Re[2]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Van Noord
9/15/2007 12:29 PM Hi Peter, On 9/15/2007 Peter Meyns wrote: PM You can use The Bat! as a news reader already with the MyGate plugin. PM It is no longer developed by its author, but it works. You can get it PM here: PM http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkcid=27

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello Martin, Saturday, September 15, 2007, 11:47:26 AM, you wrote: Well, in my opinion the following topics would make The Bat much more valueable: - loading of pictures and external content manually inside the viewer Hear hear! - supporting of Calendars via iCalendar or CalDAV (to

Re[4]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Gleason Pace
Martin, I agree with you that it is not necessarily a function of an e-mail program. But why do you think many e-mail clients are not successfull anymore? I guess because the people see that integrated functions offer more values. A number of reasons, not the least of which is that new

Re[2]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Van Noord
9/15/2007 1:25 PM Hi George, On 9/15/2007 George M. Menegakis wrote: GMM Newgroups and rss are very good toys but Ritlabs should focus to things that GMM corporate world is interested. Calendaring and proper imap exchange support. GMM Hell, forget even calendaring. Give proper imap

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2007-09-15 Thread Fabio Cipparone
hi Paul, PVN Embedded graphics are supported. Do you trust all of those who do not PVN embed? Not me! If the message has merit it can be opened in the PVN browser which makes it my choice rather than the sender's choice. I agree with you that the default behaviour should not be to open

Re[5]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Van Noord
9/15/2007 1:26 PM Hi Gleason, On 9/15/2007 Gleason Pace wrote: GP Not sure why it is ok for a browser to display remote graphics, but GP not an email client. In the case of IE, the browser is definitely not GP the better choice. GP I think the email client should handle such images safely.

Re[5]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Van Noord
9/15/2007 1:45 PM Hi Fabio, On 9/15/2007 Fabio Cipparone wrote: FC option to authorize the bat to automatically load embedded graphic as a possible FC action in sorting office/filters. i.e. if the sender is x then automatically FC load embedded graphic. An elegant solution. -- Take Care,

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Paul, on Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:30:54 -0400GMT (15.09.2007, 18:30 +0200GMT here), you wrote: PM You can use The Bat! as a news reader already with the MyGate plugin. PM It is no longer developed by its author, but it works. You can get it PM here: PM

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Paul, Saturday, September 15, 2007, 2:05:29 PM, you wrote: PVN Embedded graphics are supported. Do you trust all of those who do not PVN embed? Not me! If the message has merit it can be opened in the PVN browser which makes it my choice rather than the sender's choice. In which case you

Re[5]: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-15 Thread Tim Casten
Hello Gleason, Saturday, September 15, 2007, 1:28:21 PM, you wrote: What is it that Thunderbird is doing right that the others are not? I confess that I am not able to see it. I believe Thunderbirds success and popularity is because it is riding piggyback with the success of Firefox. --

TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-14 Thread info
How about telling us what you have planed for the v4? It is a major version leap - so there should be something major new it?!? :) Also I would like to know what the policy is this time around to the new major version - do we all have to buy it again or is an update from the actual version to

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Christian, On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:19:31 +0200GMT (14-9-2007, 14:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: I How about telling us what you have planed for the v4? Yes, I'd like a little roadmap too. -- Groetjes, Roelof I think therefore I am overqualified. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-14 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hi Roelof, I How about telling us what you have planed for the v4? Yes, I'd like a little roadmap too. Hmm, roadmap... Never heard this word on this list before... Maybe we'll see re-introduced bugs fixed first. Then new MicroEd and HTML images download. Who knows. -- All the best, Peter

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2007-09-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Christian, On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:19:31 +0200GMT (14-9-2007, 14:19, where I live), you wrote: I How about telling us moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply.

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-14 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Friday, September 14, 2007, Peter Gannushkin wrote: Hmm, roadmap... Never heard this word on this list before... really never? ;-) There was a roadmap info for V2, after V3.0 and after V3.5., I hope, we will hear little roadmap for V4. Maybe we'll see re-introduced bugs fixed

RE: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-14 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Maybe we'll see re-introduced bugs fixed first. Then new MicroEd and HTML images download. Who knows. GUI will be changed too AFAIK. What about IMAP? -- Best Regards, Vilius Šumskas LNK TV system administrator mob.: +370 614 75713 http://www.lnk.lt

Re: TB v4 outlook....

2007-09-14 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hi Marek, Hmm, roadmap... Never heard this word on this list before... really never? Just teasing. Anyway, there were bits and pieces but never a real long term roadmap. Maybe we'll see re-introduced bugs fixed first. Then new MicroEd and HTML images download. Who knows. GUI will be

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2007-09-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Vilius, On 14-09-2007 15:32, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: What about IMAP? Hear, hear! -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.99.3 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+