Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] rašė: Hi Vilius, On Wed, 16 May 2007 23:08:18 +0300 UTC (5/16/2007, 3:08 PM -0500 UTC my time), Vilius Šumskas wrote: V But it is very security sensitive decision. Let's say you are V competent to make it, let's say I'm, most of IT guys are too. agreed. V But what

Re[2]: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hi Vilius, So IMHO in nowadays world where everyone has at least stable 128kbps POP3 is a legacy. I hope, you'll allow me to disagree. :-) I'm subscribed to 54 mailinglists, from 42 of them I save the mails, doing that for many years; lists about historical topics, about mythological topics,

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread vitalie vrabie
Gary wrote: v treat it as an exam question: what is the difference between security v and encryption? A. I can log into any POP server that I am a registered user using the standard port 110. I must authenticate to get into the server to get my mail. B. I can log into any POPS server that

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread vitalie vrabie
Gary wrote: To put it another way, if I can connect to a server via POP or IMAP, after I authenticate, why will it not let me connect securely, when I can connect normally. It should be my choice, since I can connect anyway. Does that not makes sense? no, it doesn't make sense. since you

one more exam

2007-05-17 Thread vitalie vrabie
Gary, you failed the security-related exam. don't worry. there's yet another one, on marketing. given that TheBat! is called a SECURE e-mail client, and the previous exam gave you an insight on the difference between security and encryption. what, to your opinion, are the right marketing

Re: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread vitalie vrabie
vitalie vrabie wrote: by the way, where are you from? i think of moving to that country, if true are your claims that ignorance on essential things does still qualify to make a living on it... addendum (to make my point clear, so it won't look as an offense, because it's actually not): i'm

Re: Re[2]: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Gunivortus Goos [EMAIL PROTECTED] rašė: Hi Vilius, So IMHO in nowadays world where everyone has at least stable 128kbps POP3 is a legacy. I hope, you'll allow me to disagree. :-) I'm subscribed to 54 mailinglists, from 42 of them I save the mails, doing that for many years; lists about

Re[2]: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread Paul Van Noord
5/17/2007 8:08 AM Hi Vilius, On 5/17/2007 Vilius Šumskas wrote: VŠ Well, 5 last servers I built have IMAP only. The only difference user VŠ can see is he must delete email twice :). POP3 was invented for VŠ dialup users, where you just want to connect with modem download email VŠ and

RE: Re[2]: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread Vilius Šumskas
5/17/2007 8:08 AM Hi Vilius, On 5/17/2007 Vilius Šumskas wrote: VŠ Well, 5 last servers I built have IMAP only. The only difference user VŠ can see is he must delete email twice :). POP3 was invented for VŠ dialup users, where you just want to connect with modem download email VŠ

Re[2]: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread Vili
Sorry to interrupt your discussion: the Stunnel solution works with the expired certificate problem. -- Vili Current beta is 3.99.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[4]: IMAP with TLS

2007-05-17 Thread Paul Van Noord
5/17/2007 9:45 AM Hi Vilius, On 5/17/2007 Vilius Šumskas wrote: VŠ Why is that? You can store IMAP cache DB on local encrypted drive VŠ just like you are storing POP3. From the filesystem perspective VŠ point of view they are just ordinary files. Explain that to a neophyte half way around the

menu Nawigator ( bug )

2007-05-17 Thread Grzesiek [giesu]
Witaj tbbeta-request! i have problem with right button on the right corner menu Nawigator and minimalize button, menu Nawigator is behind minimalize button and sometimes when press minimalize i see nawigator menu i think this problem is with aero glass for vista Is this a known problem? --