Hello Allie,
A reminder of what Allie on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 01:49:59 GMT +0100
A Of course, if someone were to tell you that templates are for the
A lazy, you'd say they didn't know what they were talking about,
A wouldn't you?
OK, I concede defeat, go ahead, Incredibat
Hello Tony,
Saturday, February 26, 2005, 5:48:47 AM, you wrote:
Incredibat here we come :
Don't give rit any ideas..Please! :)
--
Best regards,
Tim
Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information:
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
TB Hello The,
TB A reminder of what The Final Cut on TBBETA typed on:
TB 25 February 2005 at 12:37:15 GMT +0100
TFC You must be kidding to think ppl would have to switch to another
TFC email client if thebat download images from web
TB Must I? Why not
Hello Tim,
A reminder of what Tim Casten on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 12:16:42 GMT +0100
TC Don't give rit any ideas..Please!
Why not, pretty pictures one minute, realistic mooing, meowing and
cock-a-doodle-do sounds the next, what more could one want? :)
--
Tony.
Using
Hello Goncalo,
A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 12:27:19 GMT +0100
GF For his wife...
Read it again...
TFC for my wife and I
--
Tony.
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10
:gentoo:
www.gentoo.org
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Description: S/MIME
Saturday, February 26, 2005, 5:48:47 AM, you wrote:
A Of course, if someone were to tell you that templates are for the
A lazy, you'd say they didn't know what they were talking about,
A wouldn't you?
OK, I concede defeat, go ahead, Incredibat here we come :)
If I remember correctly, the
At 14:10 [GMT+] on Friday February 25 (actual time - 10:10pm on Friday in
Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:
TFC You must be kidding to think ppl would have to switch to another
TFC email client if thebat download images from web
Must I? Why not ask them!
Your new to this list so you
At 10:48 [GMT-0500] on Friday February 25 (actual time - 11:48pm on Friday in
Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:
I'm curious. What do you say to the people who have a dead 2 year-old
who strangled himself by pressing the up button on the window with his
knee because his dad forgot to set
Het was op zaterdag 26 februari 2005 om 12:30 uur dat jij iets schreef over
'html whitelist wish' :
Hallo Tony,
TB Hello Tim,
TB A reminder of what Tim Casten on TBBETA typed on:
TB 26 February 2005 at 12:16:42 GMT +0100
TC Don't give rit any ideas..Please!
TB Why not, pretty
Het was op zaterdag 26 februari 2005 om 12:30 uur dat jij iets schreef over
'html whitelist wish' :
Hallo Tony,
TC Don't give rit any ideas..Please!
TB Why not, pretty pictures one minute, realistic mooing, meowing and
TB cock-a-doodle-do sounds the next, what more could one want? :)
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
PVN On 2/25/2005 Dennis Hays wrote:
DH What we all have in common, on this list, are the reasons we
DH originally came to TB! And, from a marketing point of view, these
DH have to be respected. I don't think most of us looked at this
DH product
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
TB Hello David,
TB A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on:
TB 25 February 2005 at 19:39:29 GMT +0100
DC Someone on this list called Pocomail a 'child's toy', but it's a
DC child's toy that has basic functionality that TB! is currently
Hello Goncalo,
Saturday, February 26, 2005, 9:11:05 AM, you wrote:
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
PVN On 2/25/2005 Dennis Hays wrote:
DH What we all have in common, on this list, are the reasons we
DH originally came to TB! And, from a marketing point of view, these
DH have to
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
TB Hello David,
TB A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on:
TB 25 February 2005 at 20:39:45 GMT +0100
DC Poco might be missing a lot of the advanced features... But it at least
DC has all the basics
TB So has a pencil and paper.
TB What
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
DC :) And at the moment, I AM using Thunderbird and not TB!.
TB In that case join a thunderbird list and don't come on here saying
TB Thunderbird can do this and Thunderbird can do that. If html is
TB THE ONLY thing The Bat can't do compared to all the
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
PVN On 2/25/2005 David Calvarese wrote:
DC We just want the option to be able to click a button and have it
DC display them if we want it too. And possibly being able to tag an
DC address in the address book to 'Display Remote Images' or even
DC 'Trust
Tony Boom wrote:
Hello Allie,
A Of course, if someone were to tell you that templates are for the
A lazy, you'd say they didn't know what they were talking about,
A wouldn't you?
OK, I concede defeat, go ahead, Incredibat here we come :)
None of us want anything like that Tony. Really.
Hello Dick,
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:21:48 +0100 GMT (26/02/2005, 01:21 +0700 GMT),
Dick H wrote:
DH Don't forget that white/blacklists can be problematic because
DH spoofing is relatively simple and then your spammails are being
DH trated as normal mails.
True. But this would be the minority of
Hello Paul,
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:21:34 -0500 GMT (26/02/2005, 09:21 +0700 GMT),
Paul Van Noord wrote:
PVN Also, some of those I work with have a 300 baud shortwave radio
PVN connection for email or a 7500 cell phone connection costing 4.5
PVN cents/min. They surely do not want HTML nor do they
Hello Marcus,
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:33:46 +0100 GMT (26/02/2005, 04:33 +0700 GMT),
Marcus Ohlström wrote:
MO When I first started using TB!, HTML was merely not a question. Now it
MO is.
Same here. I joined this list in 1999, and I couldn't care less about
HTML at the time. Times have changed.
jueves, 24 feb 2005 at 23:20, it seems you wrote:
If you will notice that The Bat! will loose simplicity to install it, just
let me know!
Windows programs prepared to run in multi-user environment should not
need to write in other folders different than DocumentSettings/User
because a
viernes, 25 feb 2005 at 04:06, it seems you wrote:
2. samewise, each user should be able to configure TB! as if this user
were to be the single TB! user. This means that configuration data, be
it in the Registry or in an initialisation file, should also be stored
under the current user area
Hello Tony,
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:47:44 + GMT (26/02/2005, 02:47 +0700 GMT),
Tony Boom wrote:
TB And the reason TB is lacking it is because it's taken us years of
TB campaigning to keep it that way.
I don't want TB to be known as the email client of the nineties. I
was against
sábado, 26 feb 2005 at 16:39, it seems you wrote:
We are not talking about this. We are talking about the *option* of
whitelisting newsletters individually for download of images. The
option will be turned off by default, and who wants to whitelist any
address does it on his own risk. I
Het was op zaterdag 26 februari 2005 om 16:30 uur dat jij iets schreef over
'html whitelist wish' :
Hallo Thomas,
___\/___
o/\o
TF Please do not protect *me* from myself. I do not take well to
TF nannying. If I cause a problem to my system by downloading images, it
TF will be my own
On 2/26/2005 Mic Cullen wrote:
MC But as an analogy, that's one of the most ridiculous I've seen. Ever.
2/26/2005 10:51 AM
Hi Mic,
Seems right at home with some others that were offered.
--
Take Care,
Paul
The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4
On 2/26/2005 Goncalo Farias wrote:
GF It doesn't work very well when you need to reply to the message.
2/26/2005 10:55 AM
Hi Goncalo,
I have no clue what this means...
--
Take Care,
Paul
The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4
On 2/26/2005 David Calvarese wrote:
DC All we want is the option to be able to view it correctly
DC withough having to use a web browser, thus letting us reply to it if we
DC need/want to.
2/26/2005 10:57 AM
Hi David,
I have never been challenged to reply to an HTML message. What is the
On 2/26/2005 Thomas Fernandez wrote:
PVN They can selectively download attachments when circumstances
PVN warrant it on a case by case basis. If the configuration files
PVN are made inaccessible to the user so they are protected from
PVN themselves,
TF Please do not protect *me* from myself. I
On 2/26/2005 NetVicious wrote:
The problem here it's this:
N Spammer A sends a spam-mail to you with the from email as
N [EMAIL PROTECTED] In your TB! you have this address in the
N whitelist of downloading images.
N The mail has a transparent image from a php file with a
Paul Van Noord wrote:
I have never been challenged to reply to an HTML message. What is the
problem?
Unfortunately, I have at work. We have one vender that forces us to use
HTML Email forms. Pain in the ass in my opinion, and it means we have
to use a client that's capable of handling them
NetVicious wrote:
The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of
the current mail. And this should be made manually every time.
That's what I suggested originally... And that works fine for me. (It's
also the default way of operating in Thunderbird).
--
Dave Calvarese
Hello Paul,
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:08:01 -0500 GMT (26/02/2005, 23:08 +0700 GMT),
Paul Van Noord wrote:
TF Please do not protect *me* from myself. I do not take well to
TF nannying. If I cause a problem to my system by downloading images, it
TF will be my own fault and I will have to deal with
Hello NetVicious,
Saturday, February 26, 2005, 5:07:09 PM, you wrote:
We are not talking about this. We are talking about the *option* of
whitelisting newsletters individually for download of images. The
option will be turned off by default, and who wants to whitelist any
address does it on
Hello David!
On Saturday, February 26, 2005, 10:33 AM, you wrote:
The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of
the current mail. And this should be made manually every time.
That's what I suggested originally... And that works fine for me. (It's
also the default
Mary Bull wrote:
The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of
the current mail. And this should be made manually every time.
That's what I suggested originally... And that works fine for me. (It's
also the default way of operating in Thunderbird).
I would have no
Hello Mary,
Saturday, February 26, 2005, 11:52:12 AM, you wrote:
Hello David!
On Saturday, February 26, 2005, 10:33 AM, you wrote:
The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of
the current mail. And this should be made manually every time.
--snipped--
Hello NetVicious,
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:07:09 +0100 GMT (26/02/2005, 23:07 +0700 GMT),
NetVicious wrote:
N The problem here it's this:
Yes, I see that. It's a risk I want to be able to take.
N Now the spammer knows you email account it's readed, and you hace
N read the spam mail.
I'll
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Hello tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com
On Saturday, February 26, 2005, at 11:33:51 AM
You wrote:
DC NetVicious wrote:
The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of
the current mail. And this should be made manually every time.
NetVicious wrote:
The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of
the current mail. And this should be made manually every time.
... and this is ThunderBird's current offering and one that I agree
with. Of course, if one feels that a particular address is unlikely to
be
Hello David!
On Saturday, February 26, 2005, 10:57 AM, you wrote:
The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of
the current mail. And this should be made manually every time.
That's what I suggested originally... And that works fine for me. (It's
also the default way
Hello Dennis!
On Saturday, February 26, 2005, 11:01 AM, you wrote:
Are we getting close to consensus here? ...
TB!'s history has been one of penultimate user configuration. As long
as the default is as Nancy Reagan waould say, Just say No, then I
wouldn't see why anyone would object. In
Mary Bull wrote:
Umm, no. I'd prefer if the button stay off with no option to force it
on. That way, if you want to view the HTML/remote Images you have to
click the button for each and every message. Especially since each
message is different and you probably don't want it set to ON. :)
Hello Mary,
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:46:42 -0600 GMT (27/02/2005, 00:46 +0700 GMT),
Mary Bull wrote:
MB I would like to be able to protect myself from inadvertently pushing
MB it. :)
Just don't activate the option, and everything will be as it used to
be.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
I have an
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
PVN Hi David,
PVN I have never been challenged to reply to an HTML message. What is the
PVN problem?
Then you should try it first and argue with us after it!
--
Best regards,
Goncalo Farias
. This tagline is SHAREWARE! To register, send me $10
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
Paul,
can you reply below the quotes you want to reply to and strip the non
relevant issues instead of replying below the whole message?
And, I know this is a pain in the arse, your signature delimiter is
non conformant with the list rules. They want it
Hello Cees,
A reminder of what Cees on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 14:25:14 GMT +0100
C Outlook and/or Express
Believe it or not Lookout Distress can do everything incredimail can and
can do it better.
I've already conceded defeat on the html issue but what happens if it does
Saturday, February 26, 2005, 2:54:34 PM, you wrote:
Strange isn't it, all this arguing over something that can't be tested on
a beta test list.
On point!
--
Ethan J. Mings
Principal, The Desk
Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha
Hello Goncalo,
A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 15:11:53 GMT +0100
GF Is it too much to have an option to enable full HTML support?
I'm going to make one last comment on this subject. For years most people
on this list have in the past voiced
Het was op zaterdag 26 februari 2005 om 20:54 uur dat jij iets schreef over
'duh' :
Hallo Tony,
C Outlook and/or Express
TB Believe it or not Lookout Distress can do everything incredimail can and
TB can do it better.
Incredimail totally sucks!
I'm on a list with some people using that
Het was op zaterdag 26 februari 2005 om 21:03 uur dat jij iets schreef over
'html whitelist wish' :
Hallo Tony,
GF Is it too much to have an option to enable full HTML support?
TB I'm going to make one last comment on this subject. For years most people
TB on this list have in the past
Hello Goncalo,
A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 15:17:47 GMT +0100
GF They want an enhanced version with what other clients have best, you
GF seem to want a client tailored to your personal needs and tastes!
Er no, I want The Bat as it is with all
Hello Goncalo,
A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 15:20:50 GMT +0100
GF Users like you are of big prejudice for business, scaring customers
GF away!
Boo!
--
Tony.
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10
:gentoo:
www.gentoo.org
smime.p7s
Hello Goncalo,
A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 15:26:05 GMT +0100
GF Where is the moderator now?
I was going to ask that quite a few messages ago but so far I've managed
to keep my tongue very firmly bit.
--
Tony.
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10
Hello Thomas,
A reminder of what Thomas Fernandez on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 16:36:49 GMT +0100
TF I do not take well to nannying.
Mothering yes but Nannying no :)
On an off topic note, I watched a program about your neck of the woods
Thomas, not sure how close to it you are
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
TB Hello Cees,
TB A reminder of what Cees on TBBETA typed on:
TB 26 February 2005 at 14:25:14 GMT +0100
TB Strange isn't it, all this arguing over something that can't be tested on
TB a beta test list.
Like we only use TB! and test it in this list...
Hello Thomas,
A reminder of what Thomas Fernandez on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 16:36:43 GMT +0100
TF Same here. I joined this list in 1999, and I couldn't care less about
TF HTML at the time. Times have changed.
Turncoat :)
--
Tony.
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10
:gentoo:
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
TB Hello Goncalo,
TB A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on:
TB 26 February 2005 at 15:11:53 GMT +0100
GF Is it too much to have an option to enable full HTML support?
TB I'm going to make one last comment on this subject. For years most
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
C Het was op zaterdag 26 februari 2005 om 20:54 uur dat jij iets schreef over
'duh' :
C Hallo Tony,
C Just my opinion i really DON'T want the ultimate html-support. If I
C really wanted that, I'd be using another e-mailclient by now!
Well,
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
TB Hello Goncalo,
TB A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on:
TB 26 February 2005 at 15:17:47 GMT +0100
GF They want an enhanced version with what other clients have best,
GF you seem to want a client tailored to your personal needs
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
TB Hello Goncalo,
TB A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on:
TB 26 February 2005 at 15:20:50 GMT +0100
GF Users like you are of big prejudice for business, scaring customers
GF away!
TB Boo!
AAA... :)
--
Best regards,
Hello Cees,
A reminder of what Cees on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 21:10:10 GMT +0100
C I'm on YOUR side.
I know, and I thank you. Seems everyone else who used to share my opinion
has abandoned a sinking ship.
The irony of it is, in a few months time we'll all have great html
Hello Goncalo,
A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 21:25:38 GMT +0100
GF er.. ah, EVOLUTION!
I think you'll find it's oo ah Cantona (:
Seriously though, I don't care either way as long as this list don't get
bombarded with floods of html. I know
Tony Boom wrote:
GF They want an enhanced version with what other clients have best, you
GF seem to want a client tailored to your personal needs and tastes!
Er no, I want The Bat as it is with all the bugs ironed out before any
completely new untested extras are added.
I won't disagree
Hello Cees,
A reminder of what Cees on TBBETA typed on:
26 February 2005 at 21:09:04 GMT +0100
C I'm on a list with some people using that crap
I bought incredimal, joined one incredimail list and got banned from 50
incredimail lists within a week.
C tbbetahtml perhaps??
Oh no, not
Hello Cees everyone else,
on 26-Feb-2005 at 14:24 you (Cees) wrote:
Outlook and/or Express :-)
I added the subject of this thread to my ignore filter, and now you're
changing the subject, how cruel is that?
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
Suppose you
Het was op zaterdag 26 februari 2005 om 22:41 uur dat jij iets schreef over
'duh' :
Hallo Alexander,
Outlook and/or Express :-)
ASK I added the subject of this thread to my ignore filter, and now you're
ASK changing the subject, how cruel is that?
call me: creative!
--
groeten,
Cees
Hello Tony!
On Saturday, February 26, 2005, 2:03 PM, you wrote:
Tony Hello Goncalo,
Tony The Bat html free... Where are they all now? They've all jumped
ship and
Tony are now sitting firmly on the fence and it appears, I am the
only one who
Tony is keeping true to my original convictions.
I
Hi Tony Boom,
On 26/2/2005 3:12 PM, you wrote:
3 months time, The Bat has the best html engine of any email client
available...
It will likely not have that. Not for a long time .. even if it is
planned.
Still no working flawless IMAP ability but great
comic book features. Hands up all
Hi Tony Boom,
On 26/2/2005 3:03 PM, you wrote:
I'm going to make one last comment on this subject. For years most
people on this list have in the past voiced *very* strong opinions
about keeping The Bat html free... Where are they all now? They've
all jumped ship and are now sitting firmly
Hi Tony Boom,
On 26/2/2005 3:50 PM, you wrote:
Seriously though, I don't care either way as long as this list
don't get bombarded with floods of html. I know html isn't allowed
on here but that's not going to stop people is it.
TB! has been capable of constructing and sending HTML mail since
At 21:07 [GMT+0100] on Saturday February 26 (actual time - 4:07am on Sunday in
Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:
I totally disagree with all this html stuff.
First off: e-mail is for information purposes only, hence, text will
suffice.
And if you only ever email yourself, and
At 20:12 [GMT+] on Saturday February 26 (actual time - 4:12am on Sunday in
Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:
3 months time, The Bat has the best html engine of any email client
available... Still no working flawless IMAP ability but great comic book
features.
As soon as you say
At 20:03 [GMT+] on Saturday February 26 (actual time - 4:03am on Sunday in
Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:
I'm going to make one last comment on this subject. For years most people
on this list have in the past voiced *very* strong opinions about keeping
The Bat html free... Where
On 2/26/2005 Goncalo Farias wrote:
PVN I have never been challenged to reply to an HTML message. What is the
PVN problem?
GF Then you should try it first and argue with us after it!
2/26/2005 7:35 PM
Hi Goncalo,
You seem challenged with an understanding of English. I do it all the
time with
On 2/26/2005 Goncalo Farias wrote:
GF can you reply below the quotes you want to reply to and strip the non
GF relevant issues instead of replying below the whole message?
This is done when pertinent, please review previous messages.
GF And, I know this is a pain in the arse, your signature
At 19:44 [GMT-0500] on Saturday February 26 (actual time - 8:44am on Sunday in
Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:
GF And, I know this is a pain in the arse, your signature delimiter is
GF non conformant with the list rules. They want it like '-- ' instead of
GF '--'.
Strange that none of
Hi Tony,
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, at 20:03:11 [GMT +] (which was 1:03 PM where
I live) you wrote:
TB I'm going to make one last comment on this subject. For years most
TB people on this list have in the past voiced *very* strong opinions
TB about keeping The Bat html free... Where are they all
Hello NetVicious,
Sunday, February 27, 2005, 12:07:09 AM, you wrote:
N The problem here it's this:
N Spammer A sends a spam-mail to you with the from email as
N [EMAIL PROTECTED] In your TB! you have this address in the
N whitelist of downloading images.
N The mail has a
Hello Tony,
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:22:58 + GMT (27/02/2005, 03:22 +0700 GMT),
Tony Boom wrote:
TF Same here. I joined this list in 1999, and I couldn't care less about
TF HTML at the time. Times have changed.
TB Turncoat :)
Call me that if you want.
Email was invented to be plain-text
Hello Leif,
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:05:26 -0700 GMT (27/02/2005, 08:05 +0700 GMT),
Leif Gregory wrote:
LG Now, TB is a for profit application. That means their time is money
LG (whose isn't). We've had TB users in the past who were visually
LG disabled.
I thinnk most have left, because we don't
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
PVN On 2/26/2005 Goncalo Farias wrote:
GF And, I know this is a pain in the arse, your signature delimiter
GF is non conformant with the list rules. They want it like '-- '
GF instead of '--'.
PVN Strange that none of the moderators have indicated
Hello Leif,
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:05:26 -0700 GMT(2/26/2005, 7:05 PM -0600 GMT),
per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Leif Gregory wrote:
Nope. I still don't want HTML support either, I'm just tired of always
arguing about it.
This thread is really about opinions. Everyone has one. :-)
...snip
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
PVN time with no problem but then I do not have a vendor that
PVN requires me to fill out an HTML form. My solution to this would
PVN be to have Thunderbird available or use web mail for such a
PVN unique circumstance.
I refuse to have 2
Hello Tony,
Saturday, February 26, 2005, 10:12:08 PM, among other things, you wrote:
TB Er no, I want The Bat as it is with all the bugs ironed out before any
TB completely new untested extras are added.
TB We've had this discussion in the past a dozen times, why add new things
TB that will
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
RP HTML I only use very rarely for special circumstances. As it is
RP installed now it is adequate for everything except graphics and as
RP others have pointed out there is a very simple work around for
RP viewing them. Putting this capability into TB
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