Re: Reply to address
Howdy Marck, Saturday, July 9, 2005, 10:16:23 AM, Marck wrotened: MDP Hi TB Beta list members, MDP Reply to sender and reply to this address is not working at all for MDP me. Is anyone else seeing this? Nopers MDP If I pick a message from a mailing list and ask to reply to sender, I MDP get a reply to the list. If I right click on any address in the header MDP or the body, and pick Reply to this address I get a message to the MDP list. MDP No, of course I don't use folder templates!!! You sure? You do love them so! MDP I make extensive use of AB templates and have quite a sophisticated MDP message formatting default template. I can imagine the macros in my MDP reply template kicking in and overriding the address I have chosen by MDP basing their work on the default message reply address. And yet my simple ones work better.. grin MDP It's because the TO address isn't set before the reply macros start MDP working. MDP This is a pretty bad bug actually. Any confirmations? Any previous MDP reports / BugTraq entries I've missed? A level below showstopper? Not confirmed and not that i know of. You'll notice i CC'd this to the list just coz i clicked on reply to this address. -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v3.51 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
how to kill a bat
Howdy Flying Rodent fans, try adding a 20meg attachment that'll slow the bat up something badly. -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.51 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM When all else fails, violence prevails. Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: how to kill a bat
Hello Ben Allen everyone else, on 08-Jul-2005 at 23:11 you (Ben Allen) wrote: try adding a 20meg attachment that'll slow the bat up something badly. Thats the punishment for having the idea of sending a 20meg file via email, of course. :-D -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Which would you rather have, a bursting planet or an earthquake here and there? -- John Joseph Lynch Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: how to kill a bat
Howdy Alexander, Sunday, July 10, 2005, 8:56:01 AM, Alexander wrotened: ASK Hello Ben Allen everyone else, ASK on 08-Jul-2005 at 23:11 you (Ben Allen) wrote: try adding a 20meg attachment that'll slow the bat up something badly. ASK Thats the punishment for having the idea of sending a 20meg file via email, ASK of course. :-D Silly me... In fact it refused to send at all... (after three days of it trying to send every 5 mins i gave up) So i just sent a 10 meg one really quickly instead -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.51 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: how to kill a bat
Hello Ben Allen everyone else, on 10-Jul-2005 at 10:16 you (Ben Allen) wrote: So i just sent a 10 meg one really quickly instead You can enable the SMTP logging (in the protocol.ini file in the mail dir of the account) - maybe your provider returns status information for the server limits during login. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Every tomorrow has two handles. We can take hold of it with the handle of anxiety or the handle of faith. -- H. W. Beecher Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: how to kill a bat
Hallo Ben, On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:11:38 +0100GMT (8-7-2005, 23:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BA try adding a 20meg attachment that'll slow the bat up BA something badly. Just picked a 33 MB attachment and started to send it. Took TB quite some time, maybe a minute to act upon the start sending command. It was using 47% of the CPU and wildly varying amounts of memory, up to 150 MB. When it actually started sending (It's still busy, looks like my server is choking a bit on the message.) CPU usage dropped heavily. The file I just sent to myself was one I actually received by mail, the idiot that sent it complained that I was the only one that received it. He didn't even get a message that the other addressee didn't get it, because his own ISP was refusing the (overly large) bouncing message. That in itself shows that it's a bad idea to send this kind of attachments. As I'm writing this message, I'm getting my 47 MB (yes, that is how big a 33 MB attachment gets on an almost empty message) message back It takes TB almost 3 seconds to display the message in the preview, even though it only says something like; 'Hi Roelof, this is a test' Opening the attachment took six or seven seconds (I'm keeping attachments in the message body), surprised me a bit that scanning it for viruses didn't take more time. -- Groetjes, Roelof If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you! The Bat! 3.51 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpW05AdbLy9x.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: how to kill a bat
Hallo Roelof, On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:22:33 +0200GMT (10-7-2005, 14:22 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO It takes TB almost 3 seconds to display the message in the preview, As an add-on. It took three seconds too to delete (move to trash) it. -- Groetjes, Roelof I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. The Bat! 3.51 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpLlVB8AhQUg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: how to kill a bat
7/10/2005 8:31 AM Hi Roelof, On 7/10/2005 Roelof Otten wrote: BA try adding a 20meg attachment that'll slow the bat up BA something badly. RO As I'm writing this message, I'm getting my 47 MB (yes, that is how RO big a 33 MB attachment gets on an almost empty message) message back YouSendIt at https://s17.yousendit.com/ works real well for getting large files to someone. I use it for most everything over 1 mb. Also, the recipient gets to choose when they want to download it without messing up their normal mail usage. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Message List not showing fully
Hi all, The capture better shows what I'd otherwise have difficulty explaining. http://pics.aimlink.name/weird.png The list columns can easily hold within the space provided, and yet the subject column is not in full view. The absence of the scroll-bar makes it very difficult to fix the problem too. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- NEWS! Police begin campaign to run down jaywalkers Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Server side outbox
On Saturday, July 09, 2005 at 2:10:24 PM [GMT -0500], Allie Martin wrote: Each time the message draft is to be auto-saved while composing, I get the following error: - !9/7/2005, 14:06:42: IMAP - 1: Could not compose the message for uploading Please verify the amount of free disk space Integrity checking of the folder Outbox would not be a bad idea The error seems to come up while composing the first message after a TB! startup. It disappears after that. However, I'm now having a buildup of draft messages in my outbox, so here ends my testing which has failed on two different IMAP servers, i.e., MDaemon Pro and FastMail's Cyrus IMAP. I'm now back to using a local Outbox. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- Diplomacy - the art of letting someone have your way. Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: how to kill a bat
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ASK Hello Ben Allen everyone else, ASK on 10-Jul-2005 at 10:16 you (Ben Allen) wrote: So i just sent a 10 meg one really quickly instead ASK You can enable the SMTP logging (in the protocol.ini file in ASK the mail dir of the account) - maybe your provider returns status ASK information for the server limits during login. Why is TB! so sluggish with big attachments? Anyone has comparable experiences with other e-mail clients? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias 1/5 HS Students carry a weapon - the others are dropouts! Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message List not showing fully
Hallo Allie, On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:16:28 -0500GMT (10-7-2005, 16:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AM The list columns can easily hold within the space provided, and yet the AM subject column is not in full view. That's odd, that's almost the same as I had, about an hour ago. I was reading Cees' message about his cat pictures tbot and from the subject I got only 'My Zippo.. love that cat!!' instead of 'really off-topic... cool! My Zippo.. love that cat!!' On scrolling down I kept seeing only the last part of the subject line. AM The absence of the scroll-bar makes it very difficult to fix the problem AM too. Confirmed, that was until I pressed the left arrow and that cured it. Note that I'm on POP3 not on IMAP, so it appears not to be connected to the connection type. -- Groetjes, Roelof Modem. A deterrent to phone solicitors. The Bat! 3.51 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgphZ8oUY3xQk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message List not showing fully
Hallo Roelof, On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:46:47 +0200GMT (10-7-2005, 16:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO reading Cees' message about his cat pictures tbot and from the subject That should read on tbot -- Groetjes, Roelof This program must die under Microsoft Windows. The Bat! 3.51 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp111qU9zkYN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message List not showing fully
Hello Allie Martin everyone else, on 10-Jul-2005 at 16:16 you (Allie Martin) wrote: The absence of the scroll-bar makes it very difficult to fix the problem too. That sounds like the bug I was describing in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe its related? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The simplest schoolboy is now familiar with truths for which Archimedes would have sacrificed his life. -- Ernest Renen Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: how to kill a bat
On 10/07/2005 09:44, Goncalo Farias wrote... Why is TB! so sluggish with big attachments? Anyone has comparable experiences with other e-mail clients? I just sent/received a 32M attachment with Thunderbird. I used POP to POP, IMAP to POP and POP to IMAP. Thunderbird works fine, processing the large send/receive in the background. The attachment opens without a hitch. I did all this via a broadband connection (DSL). Yes, Thunderbird is my primary e-mail client now, I no longer trust TB! to safely handle my critical communications. -- Mike Using Thunderbird 1.1a1 on Win XP SP2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Lycos mail plugin....
hehehe http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php You get to sing up! -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: IMAP: Server side outbox
On 10 July 2005 at 15:21, Allie wrote: Each time the message draft is to be auto-saved while composing, I get the following error: - !9/7/2005, 14:06:42: IMAP - 1: Could not compose the message for uploading Please verify the amount of free disk space Integrity checking of the folder Outbox would not be a bad idea The error seems to come up while composing the first message after a TB! startup. It disappears after that. However, I'm now having a buildup of draft messages in my outbox, so here ends my testing which has failed on two different IMAP servers, i.e., MDaemon Pro and FastMail's Cyrus IMAP. See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4666. I had this problem in 3.5.0.11. I haven't had this problem in a while and I am using remote outboxes. I do have the problem with lots of draft messages being saved, but it usually clears itself out with a compress. Not ideal, but workable for me. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v3.51 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 IMAP-UW Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Test
Hello tbbeta, -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.5.36 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message List not showing fully
On Sunday, July 10, 2005 at 10:36:42 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: That sounds like the bug I was describing in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe its related? I no longer have the message in my tbbeta folder and therefore can't comment. I also can't search for messages by msgid on the archives pages. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- (A)bort (R)etry (F)ail (U)nplug (S)ell. Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
On Sunday, 10 July 2005 at 10:39 PM, Wayne Howard wrote: Hello tbbeta, Hi Wayne, everything fine so far? ;-) -- Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message List not showing fully
On Sunday, July 10, 2005 at 3:40:28 PM [GMT -0500], Allie Martin wrote: I no longer have the message in my tbbeta folder and therefore can't comment. I also can't search for messages by msgid on the archives pages. Alexander, Thanks for sending the message off-list. This is very similar to what you describe. The interesting thing is that the problem with the list remains when you exit and reopen the folder with the problem. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat! v3.5.36 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- It is bad luck to be superstitious. Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test
Hello Wayne, On Sunday, July 10, 2005, at 4:39:11 PM, you wrote re: Test: WH Hello tbbeta, Sorry, I didn't mean to actually send this test. I was just configuring The Bat! and was testing how new messages would look. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.5.36 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.31 vs 3.5.30
Hi Alexander NVP To achieve best results - OK, any results at all - you'll need all the NVP following macros. How do you insert new macros into TB! I'd say that Natasha meant Quick Templates. Oops! I did indeed. Thanks for spotting that one. Also, a minor modification to one of the QTs. =[ Begin QuoteMIDOfQuotedMessage ]= %REM='Returns the MID of the message from which text is quoted in a format suitable for quoting in the body of a message' mid:%SETPATTREGEXP=;(.*)%REGEXPMATCH=%OMSGID%- =[ End QuoteMIDOfQuotedMessage ]= Enjoy! -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Lycos mail plugin....
On 7/10/05, Liz wrote: hehehe http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php You get to sing up! Another I scratch your back - you scratch my back promotion deal. Anything for money. It could just as easily have been sin up. As far as I can tell, you don't even get POP3 access - in other words, the ability to use TB - unless you pay for it. Even if you pay, there does not seem to be any option for IMAP. http://secure.mail.lycos.co.uk/services/content/advdetail.jsp?advid=advdetailsadvsvc=advcompare Pretty soon we may see a link for corn flakes on the RL download page. -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.51 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Lycos mail plugin....
Hi Jay, In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JW On 7/10/05, Liz wrote: JW As far as I can tell, you don't even get POP3 access - in other words, JW the ability to use TB - unless you pay for it. Even if you pay, there JW does not seem to be any option for IMAP. JW http://secure.mail.lycos.co.uk/services/content/advdetail.jsp?advid=advdetailsadvsvc=advcompare Accordingly to your link, the basic package has HTTP/IMAP... -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias How it should look Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: Lycos mail plugin....
On 7/11/05, Goncalo Farias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JW http://secure.mail.lycos.co.uk/services/content/advdetail.jsp?advid=advdetailsadvsvc=advcompare Accordingly to your link, the basic package has HTTP/IMAP... You are right, Goncalo. No POP3 unless you pay, but HTTP/IMAP even for free. So what is HTTP/IMAP? -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.51 Current beta is 3.51 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
