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2005-11-04 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Vilius, No. RFC says: There is a convention in Usenet news of using -- as the separator line between the body and the signature of a message. Well, it doesn't say anything contrary to what I'm saying. The space after dashes MUST be encoded as =20 accordingly to quoted-printable

Bug: View modes: New from... does not work

2005-11-04 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. Well, the subject sort-of says it all. In View Modes in Preferences, select a view mode and click New From... Everything is definitely not copied: neither columns nor column widths. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, Sorting office has gone belly up for me. I can't change the destination folder in the Outgoing mail section unless I completely delete that particular filter and start all over again. I've tried adding another Move the message to a folder command and deleting the first one but

Re: Bug: View modes: New from... does not work

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, Well, the subject sort-of says it all. In View Modes in Preferences, select a view mode and click New From... Everything is definitely not copied: neither columns nor column widths. Cannot confirm. Everything is copied here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial -

Re: Bug: View modes: New from... does not work

2005-11-04 Thread 9Val
Hi Peter, PF Everything is definitely not copied: neither columns nor column widths. Can't confirm -- 9Val Current beta is 3.62.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, M Fully confirmed. Phew, thanks for that confirmation. I was seriously beginning to worry that I'd got one of those gremlins that affect just one individual for some reason but having you confirm it is like having it PGP signed :-) But I don't PGP sign my messages, so how do

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread 9Val
Hi Richard, Confirmed as already fixed :) -- 9Val Current beta is 3.62.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT:

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU, On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M But I don't PGP sign my messages, so how do you know it is really me M confirming it? It wasn't a very good analogy was it? OK then, having you confirm the problem made me know that there definitely is a problem and it's not

Re: Bug: View modes: New from... does not work

2005-11-04 Thread Peter Fjelsten
9Val, On 04-11-2005 11:47, you [9] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PF Everything is definitely not copied: neither columns nor column PF widths. 9 Can't confirm I am an idiot. Sorry about that. The error is actually something else: On changing threading mode, all columns and ditto widths are

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello 9Val, On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 9 Confirmed as already fixed : Oh good. Thanks a lot. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.62.11 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, M But I don't PGP sign my messages, so how do you know it is really me M confirming it? You are using RTV, aren't you? I know because my smiley ;-) wasn't quoted. This is another long standing bug/feature. A minor one, but which has led to some misunderstanding in the past. It

TB!3.62.11 Reply Template Anomaly

2005-11-04 Thread Robert D.
I verified this, it is repeatable here. In 3.62.10 a reply template for someone I do Beta Testing for works. In 3.62.11 it does not see the subject nor the From: address. I switched back and forth from one version to the other. Below, I will offer the offending Header minus a couple of things I

Re[2]:

2005-11-04 Thread Vili
Hello Stefan, There is a convention in Usenet news of using -- as the separator line between the body and the signature of a message. Well, it doesn't say anything contrary to what I'm saying. The space after dashes MUST be encoded as =20 accordingly to quoted-printable encoding

Re: Bug: View modes: New from... does not work

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Peter, Friday, November 4, 2005, 12:24:44 PM, you wrote: PF I am an idiot. You seem to like to state that. To make you feel even better, I'd say you're a masochistic idiot. Alas, idiots can't write, so...: Not Confirmed! :-) P.S.: One of your compatriots comes close: Kim Morten

Re: Bug: View modes: New from... does not work

2005-11-04 Thread Vili
Hello Peter, Well, the subject sort-of says it all. In View Modes in Preferences, select a view mode and click New From... Everything is definitely not copied: neither columns nor column widths. You are using .01 There was bug fixing related to this in later betas. -- Vili The Bat

Re: TB!3.62.11 Reply Template Anomaly

2005-11-04 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Hello Robert, Friday, November 4, 2005, 7:36:53 AM, you wrote: RD In 3.62.11 it does not see the subject nor the From: address. Confirmed and real problem. I suspect it will be fixed quickly. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta

Re: Problem with mailto: link, (was: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available)

2005-11-04 Thread Manuel Diaz
Hello Vili, On 04-11-2005, at 04:01 (local time here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try rename temporarily your tbuser.def and try again :)) It heals everything.. Not this time... no joy -- Best regards, M. Diaz

Re: Date problem MyGate(?)

2005-11-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:16:13 +0100 GMT (04/11/2005, 04:16 +0700 GMT), Peter Fjelsten wrote: PF Does anyone have any idea of why this is happening? Has anyone seen PF anything like this? Sorry no, I don't have any duplicates with MyGate. But why would you delete message on server

Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello mark, On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:43:00 -0500 GMT (04/11/2005, 04:43 +0700 GMT), mark davidson wrote: i went to bugtrack first but decided it was too complicated ... Yes, I'm lazy too ;-) md i like to think it's being efficient with my time. :) Not necessarily. Once you've entered it into

Re: Date problem MyGate(?)

2005-11-04 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Thomas, On 04-11-2005 14:41, you [TF] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: TF But why would you delete message on server when we are talking TF about a newsserver? I just thought it would avoid duplicates :-) I'll try setting it back when I get home from work and see if that changes anything... --

Re: TB!3.62.11 Reply Template Anomaly

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello Ethan, RD In 3.62.11 it does not see the subject nor the From: address. Confirmed and real problem. I suspect it will be fixed quickly. Are you saying that this happens to you with any message you reply to? I have been using this version since last night, have replied to a lot of email

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Richard, On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 05:49:43 +0100GMT (4-11-2005, 5:49 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RW I can't change the destination folder in the Outgoing mail section Confirmed, same goes for the Incoming section too. -- Groetjes, Roelof If 50 million people vote for something stupid,

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Manuel, On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MD Crashes here just the same with Opera 9, but we are using MD different OS. Yes, seems to be a 2000 problem. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.62.11 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600),

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU, On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M You are using RTV, aren't you? I know because my smiley ;-) wasn't M quoted. That's only 'cos I didn't select it :-) M This is another long standing bug/feature. A minor one, but which has M led to some misunderstanding in the

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, M You are using RTV, aren't you? I know because my smiley ;-) wasn't M quoted. That's only 'cos I didn't select it :-) H! You may be right. I switch to RTV, which I hardly used, to view your message and reply and yes, it seems that smiley at the end of a line (which I think

Re: TB!3.62.11 Reply Template Anomaly

2005-11-04 Thread Robert D.
Recently, MAU squawked: Are you saying that this happens to you with any message you reply NO.. NO .. With that PARTICULAR header, or header (mal)formation, or UTF-8 or lack of email in I saw a lot of header differences between ones that (11) replies correctly to and the one I just

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Ian A. White everyone else, on 03-Nov-2005 at 22:33 you (Ian A. White) wrote: ASK Every 10 seconds or so, while typing, for example the roguemoticon ASK image in the preview header pane (the part that is visible while the ASK editor is open) and everything flickers for the fraction of a

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Friday, November 04, 2005, 10:53 AM, you wrote: M You are using RTV, aren't you? I know because my smiley ;-) M wasn't quoted. That's only 'cos I didn't select it :-) H! You may be right. I switch to RTV, which I hardly used, to view your message and reply and yes, it

The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread 9Val
Hi All, The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi EXE only version is located here: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36212.rar --

Re: TB!3.62.11 Reply Template Anomaly

2005-11-04 Thread 9Val
Hi Ethan, RD In 3.62.11 it does not see the subject nor the From: address. EJM Confirmed and real problem. I suspect it will be fixed quickly. Check in .12 -- 9Val

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Günther Eisele
Hei, Manuel Diaz wrote: No problem if TB! is already open. Using The Bat! Version 3.62.11 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Confirmed with 3.62.11 under WinXP SP2 German. -- Automatic and free virus scanning with F-PROT, ROT13, a script for automatically deleting TB!'s

Re: The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Gleason Pace
9Val, Hi All, The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi EXE only version is located here: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36212.rar

Re: The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo 9Val, On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 19:37:47 +0200GMT (4-11-2005, 18:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36212.rar And now you can again alter the destination folder for existing filters. -- Groetjes, Roelof Encyclopedias for sale. Never

Re: The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Cees
Het was op vrijdag 4 november 2005 om 18:37 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available' : Hoi 9Val, 9 The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi up and running smoothly so far -- groeten, Cees

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Günther Eisele, Friday, November 4, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Using The Bat! Version 3.62.11 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Confirmed with 3.62.11 under WinXP SP2 German. And 3.62.12 as well. Not confirmed with Opera 9 preview and closed Bat 3.62.12

Re: The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val, The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi Installed and running fine. Well, at least you allowed us one day this time :) And be prepared, next week some people will start complaining because you do not release any

Re: The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof, And now you can again alter the destination folder for existing filters. Yeap! :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, H! You may be right. I switch to RTV, which I hardly used, to view your message and reply and yes, it seems that smiley at the end of a line (which I think was the problem) is quoted now. Really glad to hear this--I'd been experiencing the non-quoting Smiley bug as Fixed for

Re: The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val! On Friday, November 04, 2005, 11:37 AM, you wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi Up and running. No problems. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.62.12 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Günther, Friday, November 4, 2005, 6:48:03 PM, you wrote: Confirmed with 3.62.11 under WinXP SP2 German. GE And 3.62.12 as well. Didn't try it out with .11, but everything works as expected in .12 That is: as far as this problem is concerned. :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark

Re: Alt + Underscore Letter not working in Account Properties (Sft+Ctl+P)

2005-11-04 Thread Vili
Hello Greg, Using Alt + underscored letter does NOT work in the Account Properties. Confirm? Confirmed. -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Günther Eisele
Hei, Charlene Ferrara wrote: [Problem: AVs when open closed TB! via mailto: link from browser] Using The Bat! Version 3.62.11 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Confirmed with 3.62.11 under WinXP SP2 German. And 3.62.12 as well. Not confirmed with Opera 9 preview and

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Renate Brentjes
Hallo, yes here also up and running with no problems Renate vrijdag 4 november 2005, 19:25:33, schreef u: Hello 9Val! On Friday, November 04, 2005, 11:37 AM, you wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi Up and running. No problems. :)

Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread mark davidson
hi mary, Then (by now it's automatic), I click the Follow Next button and I'm back at the top. I would prefer the old behavior, where the window stayed open, focused on the last read message when there are no more unread messages left. I would find a dialogue box a distraction. the

Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello mark! On Friday, November 04, 2005, 1:44 PM, you wrote: Then (by now it's automatic), I click the Follow Next button and I'm back at the top. I would prefer the old behavior, where the window stayed open, focused on the last read message when there are no more unread messages left.

Re: The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, at 19:37:47 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:37 where I live) 9val wrote: The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi EXE only version is located

Re:

2005-11-04 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Vili, Do I understand it well: there is a QP message, that has a non-QP part, and it caused the problem? Isnt it illegal using QP and nonQP after that? No. Usage of trailing spaces in QP-encoded parts is illegal. Every MIME part of a message may have its own transfer encoding. -- Best

Re[2]:

2005-11-04 Thread Vili
Hello Stefan, Do I understand it well: there is a QP message, that has a non-QP part, and it caused the problem? Isnt it illegal using QP and nonQP after that? No. Usage of trailing spaces in QP-encoded parts is illegal. Ok, this is what I meant. My poor English. Every MIME part of

Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Manuel Diaz everyone else, on 03-Nov-2005 at 23:50 you (Manuel Diaz) wrote: Click on a mailto: link in your browser (tested with Maxthon 1.5.0, Opera 8.5 and Firefox 1.0.4) with TB! closed. After the splash screen I get three cascading AV: No problem here with Opera 8.5. --

Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello mark davidson everyone else, on 03-Nov-2005 at 02:23 you (mark davidson) wrote: 1. TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and instead creates a message in the last used account. to the best of my knowledge, this has never worked properly. When I tried to

Organisation header added to TO address

2005-11-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello everyone, TB shows the organisation headers contents after the FROM address in the header pane (thats nice). But when I right-click on the FROM address and select reply to this address the organisation header is added to the TO field in the editor. I faintly remember this has been

Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello ...in addition to my previous message... on 04-Nov-2005 at 22:51 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results, is there already an entry for this problem? That was my fault, I accidentally disabled cookies in my browser and it

Re: The Bat! 3.62.12 is now available

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Newman
Hello 9Val, 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi Installs fine and doesn't overwrite userdic.tlx (as promised). -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat! v3.62.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build

Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread mark davidson
hi alexander, 1. TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and instead creates a message in the last used account. to the best of my knowledge, this has never worked properly. Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results, is there already an

Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread mark davidson
hi alexander, 1. TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and instead creates a message in the last used account. to the best of my knowledge, this has never worked properly. Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results, is there already an

Re: TB!3.62.11 Reply Template Anomaly

2005-11-04 Thread Robert D.
Recently, 9Val squawked: RD In 3.62.11 it does not see the subject nor the From: address. EJM Confirmed and real problem. I suspect it will be fixed quickly. Check in .12 PERFECT !! TB! #.21.12 *understands* now the odd header that I got from that company. I did reply to them and all is OK

3.62.12: Wrong account used when clicking on email addresss in mesaage body

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello all, One of the many things I do with TB with folder templates and filters is: On certain messages that include an email address in the message body, like Delivery Status Notifications from postmaster or web queries, I click on this email address to send a message that will be caught by

Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello mark, 1. TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and instead creates a message in the last used account. to the best of my knowledge, this has never worked properly. Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results, is there already an

Re: 3.62.12: Wrong account used when clicking on email addresss in mesaage body

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello MAU, Can someone confirm a similar wrong behaviour with 3.62.12? I forgot to say something to 9Val and the other RIT guys. As it has been said many times in this list, no changes should be made between the last version tested (3.62.11 in this case) and the release version (3.62.12 in this

Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread Robert D.
Recently, MAU squawked: the mailto: problem indicated above seems to have been fixed in 3.62.12. Not really. See my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, whereas formerly, in my system here, it did NOT work, now it does. Just now, I tested two ways. First, I moved to this Lists account, reading The

Re[2]: Disabled menu items

2005-11-04 Thread Vili
Hello Peter, I have uploaded mine here: http://peter.fjelsten.dk/softwaretest/TB-disabled-menu.gif http://peter.fjelsten.dk/softwaretest/TB-OK-menu.gif For me it helps double-clicking the message an opening it in a separate window - as the screen shots attest. Thanks... So, its not just my

Re: 3.62.12: Wrong account used when clicking on email addresss in mesaage body

2005-11-04 Thread MAU
Hello MAU, I forgot to say something to 9Val and the other RIT guys. As it has been said many times in this list, no changes should be made between the last version tested (3.62.11 in this case) and the release version (3.62.12 in this case, which was announced as the last port-release

Re[2]: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread Vili
Hello Alexander, Searching the bugtracker for anything mailto related gives me no results, is there already an entry for this problem? See this: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4898 -- Vili The Bat 3.62.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1

TB! #.62.12 Overlay of Address-book context menu re-appears

2005-11-04 Thread Robert D.
Yes, it is true. When I highlight the address field, NOT the actual word To: or From: , then select add-to-AB, the AB comes up AND the context menu stays in the way forever. I think I said earlier that this problem went away. But I just ran version 10 -11-12 and it's in all of them. I took a

Re[2]: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?

2005-11-04 Thread Vili
Hello Alexander, When I tried to reproduce the AVs with mailto accounts when TB is not running, I ran into this problem as well. Even though NO account was set to be the default for mailto links, it used the previous account. Hmmm. It works now for me with 3.62.12... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.12

Re: Organisation header added to TO address

2005-11-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 02:40:07 +0100 GMT (05/11/2005, 08:40 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: TB shows the organisation headers contents after the FROM address in the header pane (thats nice). M No, from my PoV it is NOT nice at all. Headers displayed in the header M pane _should_ display what