Re: 5.0.8 is DOA
domingo, 17 abr 2011 at 09:51, it seems you wrote: > For the log files make sure that you search in hidden and system > folders as well. Gene, do what Raymund says. When you open the windows search dialog, you need to check in the options of the search one checkbox saying something like "look on system and hidden folders" -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
lunes, 18 abr 2011 at 15:51, it seems you wrote: > Can't repeat it here. With shift+drag on a blank space of the message list > pane, the thread breaks just fine. Steps? Try to rethread a message to himself. Is there any BT for this bug ??? -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Negative Unread Messages?
lunes, 18 abr 2011 at 17:23, it seems you wrote: > Is that IMAP or POP? On my case POP3. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folders are working finally in 5.0.8.1?
lunes, 18 abr 2011 at 19:06, it seems you wrote: > since 5.0.8.1 all virtual folders are updated for me correctly, anybody can > confirm? They update correctly. But they have one problem yet. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8559 -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ongoing Leak Problems
martes, 19 abr 2011 at 04:28, it seems you wrote: > Please see the attached image for a copy of the leak problem. > Can a fix be put in place to resolve this specific leak. Please, remember to use CTRL+C when you got any dialog from TB! and paste here the text of the dialog instead of sending one image. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.4 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folders are working finally in 5.0.8.1?
Hello Marek, Monday, April 18, 2011, 7:06:31 PM, among other things, you wrote: MM> Hello, MM> since 5.0.8.1 all virtual folders are updated for me correctly, anybody can MM> confirm? Partly. If an unread message appears in more than one virtual folder, the folder in focus updates when a message is 'read' but the other virtual folders containing the message do not update. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.44.2 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory Leaks when running maintenance center
--- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module tbmapi.dll at 000116F5. Resource leak: 2 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left Caller addresses listed below: 06104309 0610431A. v5.0.8.1 (BETA) HOME/Rick 4/18/2011 10:42:50 PM.031 POP:DoStoreMsg EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00AAC7F9 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 004C --- OK --- Date: 18 Apr 2011 22:42:50 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 1066/2039 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1730/2047 MB Address: 00AAC7F9 ClassName: EAccessViolation Message: Access violation at address 00AAC7F9 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 004C IsOSException: 1 Modules: 0040 20110417173323 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 00AAC7F9 [0040] 005C0047 [0040] 00AAD68F [0040] 00AAD155 [0040] 00BB3706 [0040] 00AADD73 [0040] 00AADEF1 [0040] 00AA8BBF [0040] 00AC884D [0040] 00B2F178 [0040] 00B2F72D [0040] 00405C38 [0040] 00473806 [0040] 00405ADC [0040] -- Rick Dear Boyfriend, I can make your girlfriend scream louder than you can. Sincerely, Spiders v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ongoing Leak Problems
Monday, April 18, 2011 Please see the attached image for a copy of the leak problem. Can a fix be put in place to resolve this specific leak. Thanks, Jerry -- Ethan J Mings President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7 Write to me at: qualityoff...@consultant.com Skype me at : ejmings<> Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TLS + Self Signed Certificate
Hello Vilius, Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 12:53:03 AM, you wrote: JS>>> That's weird - it certainly worked for me (I recently switched to JS>>> StartSSL for our mail server's certificate, and TB didn't know this JS>>> CA, so I added their certificate). >> I found out that the cert is wrong. It's in the name of our domain >> hoster, not our domain. Gee. Cannot blame TB! for that. >> I just don't know yet why I get this pop-up asking me to accept the >> wrong certificate when I am connected to the internet at the >> university, but not when in the office or at home (domain hoster and >> ISP are not related in any way). VŠ> Probably your university is filtering SSL traffic and evesdroping? I wouldn't rule that out. But then, if I click OK, I can send the message. Never mind, as I said earlier: It's not a big deal. Let's close this thread. -- Cheers, Thomas. Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
message list wrapping
question ... in any given folder, the bat wraps from last message to first message (no matter how old it is) using the 'previous' toolbar icon. can anyone explain the logic behind this? -- regards, .. m.davidson Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Hello Dwight, Monday, April 18, 2011, 3:30:33 PM, you wrote: DC> it's at To here And 5.0.81 fixed it here. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangro...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP6 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1
On Sunday, April 17, 2011, 7:10:57 PM, Rick wrote: >> On Sunday, April 17, 2011, at 22:36:14 [UTC+0200] (Sunday, April 17, >> 2011 22:36 my local time) Jernej Simončič wrote: >>> On Sunday, April 17, 2011, 21:31:45, Marek Mikus wrote: First of all, Reply now opens editors for all messages in thread, this is really crazy! >>> Can't confirm. >> Confirmed, but the number of opened editor windows depends on the >> position of replied message in the thread. > Can't confirm here I was about to not confirm with this message, since first try it didn't happen. But this reply also opened a reply for the one following in the sub-thread. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
On Saturday, April 16, 2011, 7:08:49 PM, Richard Newman wrote: > 1) Forward a message and the cursor starts in the body of the message > text rather than "To" it's at To here -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.8 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Skins
Hi Gunivortus, > Are there complete ready skins available for download? you can use my 'Minimal Design' glyph. This is fully compatible with the current version of TheBat!. http://thebat.zetema.de/minimal.html http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/minimal_batskin_v504.zip [89 KB] There are 5 other skins, but they are not fully adapted to version 5. http://thebat.zetema.de/glyphs.html -- Best wishes Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folders are working finally in 5.0.8.1?
Peter, On 18-04-2011 20:02, you wrote in : > On 18-04-2011 19:06, you wrote in : >> since 5.0.8.1 all virtual folders are updated for me correctly, anybody can >> confirm? > So far it looks good here. Not any more. -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Pro MyGate, RSS 4 IMAP (Courier) & 1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folders are working finally in 5.0.8.1?
Howdy, On 4/18/2011, 12:06 PM, Marek Mikus wrote in > Hello, > since 5.0.8.1 all virtual folders are updated for me correctly, anybody can > confirm? I've had one which stayed "Bolded as if there were unread messages, had to restart TB to get it to refresh. :( -- Art Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands. __ The Bat! Pro v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows 7 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folders are working finally in 5.0.8.1?
Marek, On 18-04-2011 19:06, you wrote in : > since 5.0.8.1 all virtual folders are updated for me correctly, anybody can > confirm? So far it looks good here. -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Pro MyGate, RSS 4 IMAP (Courier) & 1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TLS + Self Signed Certificate
Sveiki, Monday, April 18, 2011, 6:23:01 PM, you wrote: > Hello Jernej, > On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:41:31 +0200 GMT (08/Apr/11, 23:41 PM +0700 GMT), > Jernej Simončič wrote: >>> I think I mentioned it before: I added this somehow with the result >>> that no messages could be sent anymore. I had to go through the cert >>> list in TB! and delete the one in question. The result was that I get >>> asked every time and have to click "OK". JS>> That's weird - it certainly worked for me (I recently switched to JS>> StartSSL for our mail server's certificate, and TB didn't know this JS>> CA, so I added their certificate). > I found out that the cert is wrong. It's in the name of our domain > hoster, not our domain. Gee. Cannot blame TB! for that. > I just don't know yet why I get this pop-up asking me to accept the > wrong certificate when I am connected to the internet at the > university, but not when in the office or at home (domain hoster and > ISP are not related in any way). Probably your university is filtering SSL traffic and evesdroping? -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Skins
Hi Tbudlers, got this questions from a TB user passed: "I'd like to give my the bat another skin but don't want to dive deep into all kind of configuration. Are there complete ready skins available for download? Like many other programs have)." I never heard of it, but to be sure I'm asking here first. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.40 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Virtual folders are working finally in 5.0.8.1?
Hello, since 5.0.8.1 all virtual folders are updated for me correctly, anybody can confirm? -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Negative Unread Messages?
Hello Steven, On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:51:08 -0400 GMT (12/Apr/11, 2:51 AM +0700 GMT), Steven P Vallière wrote: SPV> Also, five new messages went into that folder so far today. SPV> When I noticed that, there was only -1 unread, so I opened SPV> the folder and saw there are actually NINE messages in the SPV> folder, and three of those were marked unread. When I went SPV> and marked them read, I now have -4 unread and 5 total but SPV> the numbers should be 0 unread and 9 total. Is that IMAP or POP? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TLS + Self Signed Certificate
Hello Jernej, On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:41:31 +0200 GMT (08/Apr/11, 23:41 PM +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: >> I think I mentioned it before: I added this somehow with the result >> that no messages could be sent anymore. I had to go through the cert >> list in TB! and delete the one in question. The result was that I get >> asked every time and have to click "OK". JS> That's weird - it certainly worked for me (I recently switched to JS> StartSSL for our mail server's certificate, and TB didn't know this JS> CA, so I added their certificate). I found out that the cert is wrong. It's in the name of our domain hoster, not our domain. Gee. Cannot blame TB! for that. I just don't know yet why I get this pop-up asking me to accept the wrong certificate when I am connected to the internet at the university, but not when in the office or at home (domain hoster and ISP are not related in any way). -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Hi, >The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at >http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar >[-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically Cannot confirm. TB filters only one message with the matching filter, the rest stay in "Inbox". try to make a "ReFilter" - still filters out one messages. Latest version where that "Refilter" works: *.138 Regards Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Luca: > Rick: > > > > Well, I'm glad, it works. But next time they invent a shift prefix out of > > > the > > > blue for a feature like that, they'd better speak loud. I feel a bit like > > > I've > > > been tricked :) > > > > Now try to break the threading. There is also a bug where the message will > > disappear > > Can't repeat it here. With shift+drag on a blank space of the message list > pane, the thread breaks just fine. Steps? No, wait, it can disappear, when you try to re-thread a message on itself: shift+drag a message and drop it on its own line, you're asked if you want to re-thread it, answer "yes", it disappear. Nasty. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Rick: > > Well, I'm glad, it works. But next time they invent a shift prefix out of > > the > > blue for a feature like that, they'd better speak loud. I feel a bit like > > I've > > been tricked :) > > Now try to break the threading. There is also a bug where the message will > disappear Can't repeat it here. With shift+drag on a blank space of the message list pane, the thread breaks just fine. Steps? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
> Well, I'm glad, it works. But next time they invent a shift prefix out of the > blue for a feature like that, they'd better speak loud. I feel a bit like I've > been tricked :) Now try to break the threading. There is also a bug where the message will disappear -- Rick Necrophiliacs need love too! v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Rick: > > Please, don't forget to fix manual rethreading. I'm reduced to keep the > > executable file of v.4 in the program folder and launch it instead of v.5 > > everytime I need to rethread a message, and it happens an awful lot of > > times. > > You might want to add a note to the item in bug tracker that it is still > broken in this release > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8542 Ehm... I did, and Tanurkov just answered: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8542#c25975 | Re-threading works only if you press and hold the Shift key while dragging. | It was so for quite a while AFAIR... Well, I'm glad, it works. But next time they invent a shift prefix out of the blue for a feature like that, they'd better speak loud. I feel a bit like I've been tricked :) -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1
Hello Jernej, hello List! * Jernej Simončič wrote '[1]: > On Sunday, April 17, 2011, 19:38:42, Maxim Masiutin wrote: >> [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping > Finally. There's still a small bug though: first message in collapsed > threads sometimes doesn't lose the unread style (until you switch to > another folder and back again), Confirmed. > and the unread counter in folder list sometimes reflects this (eg. > right now I can see 1 folder that shows 1 unread message, even > though there's no unread messages in that folder). Not here. But in the message view the counter isn't resetted. -- Regards, Christoph TheBat! v5.0.8.1 (BETA) unter Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 64bit [1] ~ Nachricht vom: 18.04.2011 @ 11:14:39 +0200 GMT mid:1962990957.20110418111...@eternallybored.org Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ghost Messages
Hello Dierk, hello List! * Dierk Haasis wrote '[1]: > With at least every first time start [on a given day] TB shows > messages on the MT that will not be shown in the MT browse message > window. Sometimes the messages are foud [as unread] in the folder > tree, like this time. Deleting them, or just marking them read, will > not stop the MT showing them. Confirmed. This bug exists since a couple of beta versions now. > I closed TB, got an error about the release of some unused > T-something, the MT ran on, after a while showing a non-existent, > empty message. Had to force-close TB via task manager. Confirmed. -- Regards, Christoph TheBat! v5.0.8.1 (BETA) unter Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 64bit [1] ~ Nachricht vom: 18.04.2011 @ 09:28:54 +0200 GMT mid:672449798.20110418092...@dh2publishing.info Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1
On Sunday, April 17, 2011, 19:38:42, Maxim Masiutin wrote: > [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping Finally. There's still a small bug though: first message in collapsed threads sometimes doesn't lose the unread style (until you switch to another folder and back again), and the unread counter in folder list sometimes reflects this (eg. right now I can see 1 folder that shows 1 unread message, even though there's no unread messages in that folder). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > [ The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1.7601.Service Pack 1 ] The more campaigning, the better. -- O'Brien's First Law of Politics Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 14:36:00 +0200, Viktor Kabelac wrote: >"Funnywise" this reminds me on all the GFs I tried to teach the same: >speak up on time, Which has been done, numerous times, for at least five (5), if not ten (10) years. Incessantly. >don't silently expect and be disappointed later. There is nothing to be disappointed about. Anyone who has been monitoring the Beta! development of The Beta! for some time should have expected this. There are more important things to be dissapointed or angry about. Like deforestation or global climate change. Arjan Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Hi Maxim, On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, at 20:38:42 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:38 where I live) you wrote about: 'The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)' > [-] Message List: Sorting Subject/From/To groups by latest time was not > functional Tnis is still not quite right. See image: -- Robert van der Hulst t...@heliks.nl Using The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows 7.6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 <> Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ghost Messages
Hello TBBETA Members! With at least every first time start [on a given day] TB shows messages on the MT that will not be shown in the MT browse message window. Sometimes the messages are foud [as unread] in the folder tree, like this time. Deleting them, or just marking them read, will not stop the MT showing them. I closed TB, got an error about the release of some unused T-something, the MT ran on, after a while showing a non-existent, empty message. Had to force-close TB via task manager. Here's a screen grab of the MT with ghost messages: http://screencast.com/t/KACLtoBt1A -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Buss’s Third Law of Human Mating: For every mating adaptation in one sex, there exists at least one co-evolved adaptation in the other sex designed to manipulate and exploit it. Buss’s Fourth Law of Human Mating: For every co-evolved exploitative mating adaptation, there exists at least one co-co-evolved defensive adaptation designed to circumvent being manipulated and exploited. Buss’s Seventh Law of Human Mating: Never reveal your first two laws of mating, lest they be used to manipulate and exploit you. [David Buss] Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
