Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Hello RS, DC unless there is some reason why marking it read right away DC interferes with what one wants to do with the message In example you read or just scan a message but you don't have time to deal with it at the moment . In that way it stays in example in your main (cumulative) folder and waits for it's turn. Solution would be creating additional VF and tag messages somehow but for instance in my TB! all VF values are reset to zero and in that way if I use that solution I will not know that there is any message pending to be handled... I think it is a bit pointless to continue with this discussion, no one is going to convince the other if there is a bug or not. Anyway, I will tell you how I do things myself which, of course, to me, it seems a bit more logic. I hardly use any Incoming filters, just a few to sort messages for lists like this one and a couple of news letters. I mainly rely on Read and Reply filters. This way, most of my incoming email just stays in the Inbox, where I will go to see if I have any new and 'unread' messages. I normally use Smart Space to browse/read a message and when I get to the end the message is marked as read and I'm automatically taken to the next. That's what Smart Space does. Now, when I have one message selected in the Inbox Message List and displayed in the Preview pane, I may do several things with it if I just don't delete it: 1.- Just finish reading it and file it in appropriate folder When message is marked as read by Smart Space, Read filters trigger and one of them (most based on sender being in an AB Group) will move the message to appropriate folder. 2.- Reply to it and then file it As soon as I 'Send now' or 'Put in the outbox' the reply, Replied filters are triggered and one of them, with similar logic as Read ones (i.e. AB Groups) will move both the message being replied and the reply to appropriate folder. 3.- Keep it for later reply or further action Before Smart Space marks it as read I flag it. Then, when marked as read, a Read filter will move the message to my 'Action - Reply' folder, which is the folder I will look at for pending actions/replies. When I do reply/act on any of them, again Read and Replied filters will file them appropriately. Under 'Action - Reply' I have a VF which looks into it and with Advanced filter settings: Age is greater than 10 days AND Massage (attributes) is not replied And that is all. Have a good day. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:07 AM, MAU miguel.ur...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is a bit pointless to continue with this discussion, no one is going to convince the other if there is a bug or not. Anyway, I will tell you how I do things myself which, of course, to me, it seems a bit more logic. Well, there is one thing I find pretty convincing: The old VF behaviour (not removing the currently selected message) would not destroy your process, while the current behaviour destroys ours. So what's the argument against keeping the currently selected message in the VF list until the user selects another? I haven't seen one. So why don't we agree on that this should be fixed? BRgds, Carsten Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Hello Carsten, So what's the argument against keeping the currently selected message in the VF list until the user selects another? I haven't seen one. So why don't we agree on that this should be fixed? Forget it. Do you understand what 'pointless' means? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Hello Carsten, So what's the argument against keeping the currently selected message in the VF list until the user selects another? I haven't seen one. So why don't we agree on that this should be fixed? Forget it. Do you understand what 'pointless' means? Sorry to interject, but it seems to be working as DESIGNED. If you don't want read messages to show, then they DON'T. There WERE some refresh issues with VFs which I believe were fixed. VFs don't show deleted emails. Perhaps that should be a feature request? -- Rick People are like stained glass windows: They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, But when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light shining from within. v5.1.6.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Questions about Message Tags management
Hello all, I would like to raise two issues: 1) Do I understand it correctly, that at the moment it is not possible to delete Message Tags? You can create them and add them to a message, but you cannot delete them from the tag library. 2) Is it work by design, that it is not possible to change the name of a message tag? Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 Pro on Windows 7 SP1 32Bit, without OTFE Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions about Message Tags management
Hello mse, 1) Do I understand it correctly, that at the moment it is not possible to delete Message Tags? You can create them and add them to a message, but you cannot delete them from the tag library. 2) Is it work by design, that it is not possible to change the name of a message tag? Have you seen my mid:161337125.20120426120...@gmail.com? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Hello Rick, Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 5:00:56 PM, you wrote: R VFs don't show deleted emails. Perhaps that should be a feature request? Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I have a Virtual Folder for today's messages [I know, this might sound strange to some :-)] and when I delete messages in there, they are still shown, except, from then on, Trash is being mentioned as the folder they are in. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 5.1.6.2 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
On Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 3:11:24 PM, Mark Partous wrote: when I delete messages in there, they are still shown, except, from then on, Trash is being mentioned as the folder they are in. empty the trash, and they will most likely no longer be in the virtual folder -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.1.6.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions about Message Tags management
Hello MAU, M Hello mse, M 1) Do I understand it correctly, that at the moment it is not possible to delete Message Tags? You can create them and add them to a message, but you cannot delete them from the tag library. 2) Is it work by design, that it is not possible to change the name of a message tag? M Have you seen my mid:161337125.20120426120...@gmail.com? I really should read more... I'll have a look at those threads later on. Thank you Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 Pro on Windows 7 SP1 32Bit, without OTFE Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions about Message Tags management
Hello mse, Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 9:51:39 PM, you wrote: m 1) Do I understand it correctly, that at the moment it is not possible to m delete Message Tags? You can create them and add them to a message, but you m cannot delete them from the tag library. It seems so. m 2) Is it work by design, that it is not possible to change the name of a m message tag? I think that it is a feature for which programming has not been completed yet. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 5.1.6.2 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions about Message Tags management
Hello MAU, Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 10:06:20 PM, you wrote: M Have you seen my mid:161337125.20120426120...@gmail.com? I do not have that message anymore. Is that the one in which you said you had found a unconventional trick to delete the tags, without further explanation of the procedure, or did you write a follow-up to that one? Personally I have one tag, the first one I made when the feature became available, that doesn't show up when you right-click a message and choose labels. The other ones were added after installing a more recent version (or beta ftm) and they do show up. I suppose that deleting, then recreating the tag (label) would make it show up in the right-click-list. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 5.1.6.2 MyMacros 1.11a Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions about Message Tags management
Hello Mark, M Have you seen my mid:161337125.20120426120...@gmail.com? I do not have that message anymore. Is that the one in which you said you had found a unconventional trick to delete the tags, without further explanation of the procedure, or did you write a follow-up to that one? It is actually a follow up with Subject: About Tags (II). I do explain the 'dirty trick' for deleting tags and many other things. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.1.6.2 VF bug still there
Hello Dwight, Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 10:13:04 PM, you wrote: DC empty the trash, and they will most likely no longer be in the virtual DC folder :-) I would consider that to be a purged message. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 5.1.6.2 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Questions about Message Tags management
Hello MAU, Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 11:19:13 PM, you wrote: M It is actually a follow up with Subject: About Tags (II). I do explain M the 'dirty trick' for deleting tags and many other things. Oops, must have escaped me... Could/would you send me a copy via PM? Thanks in advance! [Or: No problem! if you can't/don't want to :-) ] -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 5.1.6.2 Current beta is 5.1.4.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
