Re: TB for Android? - Take 'k9mail'

2012-06-22 Thread Matthias Walter
Joerg Schiermeier wrote:


> k9mail 
> K-9 Mail is an advanced email client for Android
> 


I use the new Aqua mail. That is certainly well worth a look.

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Re: TB for Android? - Take 'k9mail'

2012-06-22 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Friday, June 22, 2012, 8:21:16 PM, Joerg Schiermeier wrote:
 
> k9mail 
> K-9 Mail is an advanced email client for Android
>  

I've been pretty happy with k-9. much better than the native app that 
came with my phone. 
  
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Re: TB for Android? - Maybe?

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
I wrote (some time ago):

> Yes, good idea. But see this:
> Android is Linux.
> And 'The Bat!' is running under wine:
> 

There was an error in my thoughts, sorry.
'The Bat!' is running fine under wine on Linux/MacOS X/BSD/... (all
plattforms which are supported by wine.

> Take it. It works well.
Thats true (for 'The Bat!') - but not for wine:
wine didn't work on Android.
See:



This is for all 'The Bat!'-user who want to change to Linux (German only):
> If you can understand German than read also:
>


Sorry for this confusion I caused by being not clearly and exactly.

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Re: TB for Android? - Take 'k9mail'

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Dierk Haasis wrote:

>   Android*-version - most probably with some kind of cloud-connection
>   [to sync automatically with PC] - be a good idea? Probably better

So take this one:

k9mail 
K-9 Mail is an advanced email client for Android


Maybe helps you.

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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Vilmos Kertesz
>> being an Apple product and Android not being Apple. Android might be
>> BSD but it isn't iOS. So maybe Wine could run on Android if it isn't
> Please read what I wrote.
> Android isn't BSD.

There is K9 for Android, do the job. Multiple account, onestep
download. Good business emailer.

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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Gleason wrote:

> being an Apple product and Android not being Apple. Android might be
> BSD but it isn't iOS. So maybe Wine could run on Android if it isn't

Please read what I wrote.
Android isn't BSD.

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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Aam,

 --->>> a...@avenarius.sk / Friday Fri  22. Jun 2012, 09:36 PM
TB for Android?


>>   *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ...

You just got me ;)  Now I must answer to your remarks.


> ... Oh, when I say happy, that doesn't really fully apply to TB
> anymore...

I am using TB! since about 1998 and never felt to be left struggling.
When I moved to TB!beta it was obvious that there will be glitches.
But nothing wild so far.


> I hear Version 5 is so atrocious I haven't found the courage to
> upgrade so far.

That is why you find it atrocious because you never upgraded.


> Of course, iOS's email app is a joke in terms of ultra-minimal
> functionality, but at least they got IMAP right,

Sorry, I am using four IMAP accounts with success. Can you make more
accurate statements of what TB! is missing? That sure would help.


> and I've been using iOS's "Mail" instead of TB for most short
> messages throughout the workday, because TB can be such a pain in
> the behind to use oftentimes. :-/ I nowadays mostly only use TB in
> the evenings to clean up my Inbox after a day of work, and to deal
> with longer messages that need to be typed.

Good for you. It seems you have not gotten it right. I am maintaining
several accounts and use solely TB! on them. So I don't see you
problem.


> That being said, I'd welcome TB for iOS, but not if it's such a
> disaster as Version 5. I bought iOS's alternative email client,
> Sparrow, but it's a disaster, too, next to unusable. Sometimes
> "simple is better", and Apple are masters in implementing that
> mantra into practice.

If  you are not happy with TB! under Windows you sure will not like it
under iOS.

Suggestion:  Try  to use TB! in private and business, POP and IMAP and
play a bit more serious. Maybe you can find the Love for it.

Enjoy playing with TB!


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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Friday, June 22, 2012, 1:36:39 PM, a...@avenarius.sk wrote:
 
> wouldn't trade iOS for Android, especially not on the tablet.

I  agree that I haven't seen an android tablet I'd take over my iPad, 
and  my  iPod  touch  is  about  the best for mp3 players, but I sure 
wouldn't  trade  my android phone for the limitations imposed by iOS. 
I've watched friends and family use their iPhones. 

> I hear Version 5 is so atrocious I haven't found the courage to
> upgrade so far. 

very silly remark, etc. You certainly can't believe all you hear. 
  
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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Gleason

Joerg,

> Dierk Haasis wrote:

>>   *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ...

> iOS is based on BSD and so on MacOS X.
> wine also runs under MacOS X.

> Try it.
> :-)

I would be very surprised if you could get Wine to run on iOS. iOS
being an Apple product and Android not being Apple. Android might be
BSD but it isn't iOS. So maybe Wine could run on Android if it isn't
locked down like iOS systems are.


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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Dierk Haasis wrote:

>   *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ...

iOS is based on BSD and so on MacOS X.
wine also runs under MacOS X.

Try it.
:-)

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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Dierk Haasis wrote:

>   As I see Voyager still being alive and kicking, wouldn't an
>   Android*-version - most probably with some kind of cloud-connection
>   [to sync automatically with PC] - be a good idea? Probably better
>   than a USB-stick variant?

Yes, good idea. But see this:
Android is Linux.
And 'The Bat!' is running under wine:


Take it. It works well.

If you can understand German than read also:


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Re: 5.1.6.6

2012-06-22 Thread Bob Riley
Hi Maxim,

Friday, June 22, 2012, 12:08:24 PM, you wrote:

MM> The Bat! 5.1.6.6 is available at
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5166.rar

MM> What's new in 5.1.6.6 since 5.1.6.4:
[snip]

Up and running very well after the installation. I haven't tested that
all the gains/fixes/features work, however, having neither the time
nor Bat skills to test them.

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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread aam
A Bat-fellow, Dierk Haasis,
wrote on Friday, 22nd June 2012 at 20:12:31 (GMT +0200),
which was ditto in Bratislava --

>   *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ...

Very silly remark...  :-p  I've been a happy iOS & TB user for many years,
and wouldn't trade iOS for Android, especially not on the tablet. Oh,
when I say happy, that doesn't really fully apply to TB anymore...
I hear Version 5 is so atrocious I haven't found the courage to
upgrade so far. Of course, iOS's email app is a joke in terms of
ultra-minimal functionality, but at least they got IMAP right,
and I've been using iOS's "Mail" instead of TB for most short messages
throughout the workday, because TB can be such a pain in the behind
to use oftentimes.  :-/  I nowadays mostly only use TB in the evenings
to clean up my Inbox after a day of work, and to deal with longer
messages that need to be typed.

That being said, I'd welcome TB for iOS, but not if it's such a disaster
as Version 5. I bought iOS's alternative email client, Sparrow, but
it's a disaster, too, next to unusable. Sometimes "simple is better",
and Apple are masters in implementing that mantra into practice.

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Re: 5.1.6.6

2012-06-22 Thread Eddie
Title: Re: 5.1.6.6


Dear Maxim,

 --->>> Maxim Masiutin / Friday Fri  22. Jun 2012, 09:08 PM
        5.1.6.6


> The Bat! 5.1.6.6 is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5166.rar

U&R so far well


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TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello TBBETA Members!

  As I see Voyager still being alive and kicking, wouldn't an
  Android*-version - most probably with some kind of cloud-connection
  [to sync automatically with PC] - be a good idea? Probably better
  than a USB-stick variant?


  *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ...


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5.1.6.6

2012-06-22 Thread Maxim Masiutin
The Bat! 5.1.6.6 is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5166.rar

What's new in 5.1.6.6 since 5.1.6.4:
[-] Again some fixes in time zone handling to make loading of large folders on 
XP faster, but the bug "Incorrect time is displayed for messages received in 
daylight saving time when it is standard time and vice versa" may come back
[-] Message create/receive time is correctly displayed without degrading folder 
loading performance (incorrect time is displayed for messages received in 
daylight saving time when it is standard time and vice versa)
[-] When a filter was applied to several selected message using Hotkey, only 
the first message could was used for checking agaist filter condition
[-] Text settings like (Date/Time separator) were not retrieved from the 
system's registry if the text was exactly 1 character long
[-] Message list can loose changes made by incoming filters (setting color 
group in IMAP folder for incoming messages wasn't visible before refreshing 
folder)




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voyager 5.1.6.5

2012-06-22 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,

Please test whether Voayger 5.1.6.5 is OK, and let us know

The Bat! Voyager 5.1.6.5 is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_5-1-6-5.exe

What's new since Voyager 5.0.32.1 released on 25-Jan-2012:

[-] Command line parameter /EXIT starts program termination before command line 
processing is finished
[-] (#0009018) The "&" characters in IMAP folder names were not rendered 
properly
[*] (#0009010) it is now possible to enable/disable prompt on printing of 
multiple messages
[-] Preferences "HTML Viewer" was translated. Translated by Inna Demcenko
[-] Mark as Junk (Mark as Not Junk) can raise "List index out of bounds" 
exception
[*] "Messages header" hint design was changed
[*] URL Hint design was changed
[-](#0009014) Additional page /5.0.32/
[-] Memory corruption when task is executed very fast (short tasks like "Mark 
message as read")
[*] URL Hints were redesigned
[-] (#0009032) Non-MIME forwarding of multiple messages to a single address was 
processing wrong messages
[-] (#0009037) Message list item at start of a branch was not updated 
immediately when messages were grouped by subject/sender/recipient
[-] (#0009007) Change of message's colour group while viewing a Virtual Folder, 
was not immediately shown.
[*] "Mark as not Junk" is now moving messages from Junk folder to Inbox as in 
versions before v5
[-](#0009041) Problems with HTML message display
[-] IMAP. Appended message must be fetched from server because it can be 
implicitly modified ("Sizes differ!!" error when moving messages between 
accounts).
[-] (#0008975) There was no right mouse button menu in the message redirect 
dialogue's address part
[-](#0008821) 5.0.18.2 When multiple messages are forwarded, the body disappears
[-](#0009042) v5.0.34 Lost spaces
[-] (#0009042) Spaces in some ill-formed HTML messages were lost
[-] Cannot connect to "localhost" (cannot correctly resolve this host name)
[-] (#0009021) Message list did not support Quick Search and filtering that 
used Unicode characters
[-] Forwarding multiple messages to a single address from a Common Folder was 
not working correctly
[-] "Connection failed" error when failed to connect to the first address of 
the host with multiple addresses
[*] TEST (BETA ISSUE)
[-] Orphanned Quick Search input control appeared in the Message Finder window
[-] (#0009057) A default account was used without trying to find the most 
suitable one when replying to messages from Common Folders
[-] (#0009053) Problems when parent was changed for a newly created folder
[-] Program hangs when selecting folder
[*] Quick Search in the message list doesn't "eat" erroneous input anymore
[-] Incorrect time is displayed for messages received in daylight saving time 
when it is standard time and vice versa
[-] Incorrect UTC offset is displayed in "Received" field for messages received 
in daylight saving time when it is standard time and vice versa (message 
headers panel)
[*] (#0009001) Read filters are now invoked after an attempt of moving away 
from the current message even when the current messages stays the same.
[-] IMAP. When Outbox is local and Sent is remote there is error in log that 
message cannot be moved to Sent folder, but actually it WAS successfully moved
[-] If birthday in address book was specified with 0 (zero) year then error is 
displayed on every program start
[*] (#0007820) It is now possible to save messages in various formats from the 
message editor 
[*] UI changes in the Address Book menu
[-] (#0008810) OTFE: Messages were not deleted from the server when they were 
deleted from the Trash folder
[-] (#0008999) Resending messages from a Common Folder was not working correctly
[-] (#0009078) "Delete message from server" filter action was not working for 
IMAP folders
[-] IMAP. If program was abnormally terminated then filters can be triggered 
again by already filtered messages
[-] When a separate message viewer was open without message list shown, the 
viewer was not focused making navigation uncomfortable
[-] (#0009069) Colour Group's background colour was not used in the CG 
selection menu
[*] Windows Split Mode icons were redesigned
[-] Maximum number of commands in IMAP session was limited to 1 due to 
incorrect parsing of tag (first character was lost)
[-] Address fields with encoded quoted text wasn't correctly displayed 
(example: "\"Jonh Smith\"")
[-] (#0009089)  Batch-forwarded messages were not receiving the "Forwarded" flag
[-] Attachment with invalid characters in name cannot be extracted by filter
[-] (#0007903) Main Window was blank if it was called from the MailTicker after 
starting minimised
[-] It was not possible to change the current ViewMode of a message list 
through the "Manage View Modes" dialogue
[-] (#0008858) Attachments stored separately on a mapped network drive were not 
deleted when needed
[-] Transfer encoding for non-ASCII characters in message headers cannot be 
changed (combo-box was disabl

voyager 5.1.6.5

2012-06-22 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,

Please test whether Voayger 5.1.6.5 is OK, and let us know

The Bat! Voyager 5.1.6.5 is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install_5-1-6-5.exe

What's new since Voyager 5.0.32.1 released on 25-Jan-2012:

[-] (#0008959) Missing string "Download Folder Contents task" in CC queue
[-] (#0008985) Translated labels in QR Code Generator are wrongly positioned
[-] (#0008990) Option "Do not store password, prompt for mail retrieval" is 
enabled by default when creating new account
[-] (0008646) /EXPORT command line parameter gave "Invalid pointer operation" 
error
[-] Fixed Access Violation error when adding or viewing untrusted Root 
certificates during a TLS connection
[-] Scheduler event cannot be deleted after execution (dirty fix)
[-] Scheduler event cannot be auto-deleted after execution
[-] IMAP. Some servers are known to return 0 as UIDNEXT (resulting infinite 
counter update)
[+] "Print Preview" - big icon
[+] Print Preview big icon
[-] Changed https to http, now redirecting on the techsupport site works 
properly.


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