TBBeta Mission Statement
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Re: 8.0.14 MSI files / EWS support
Hello Maxim, Thursday, November 30, 2017, 10:48:41 AM, you wrote: > We were not happy with the quality of it and were not inclined to > spend resources on improving it, so we have decided to focus on IMAP > instead which has room for improvement. Thank you for this update. I understand the decision. Maybe this can be investigated after you get the level of improvements you are hoping for in IMAP. Onward and upward. Have a great day. Jerry -- Ethan J Mings President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7 Write to me at: qualityoff...@consultant.com Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Guten Tag Dimitar Tomov, am Donnerstag, 30. November 2017 um 15:39 schrieben Sie: > Entering text in the quick search field jumps to the next fitting > message (not the first), but does not filter the list. You have to press ENTER to apply it as a filter for the whole folder. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.0.14 MSI files / EWS support
Hello Maxim, Thursday, November 30, 2017, 10:48:41 PM, you wrote: > Hello Thomas, > Wednesday, November 29, 2017, 6:49:38 AM, you wrote: >> 8.0.14 has been released without the EWS DLL. I promise that this will >> cause unhappy customers, and complaints all over. After I downloaded >> the DLL, EWS worked as usual, I didn't even need to restart TB!. >> So I wonder what purpose it serves to not include it. > We were not happy with the quality of it and were not inclined to > spend resources on improving it, so we have decided to focus on IMAP > instead which has room for improvement. Well, it was better than no support for EWS. If EWS is not supported at all, it is a show-stopper. We may or may not like EWS, but this is reality. My university uses it, and I do need to have access to that account. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 8.0.14 under Windows 10.0 Build 15063 Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bugtracker broken
Hello tbbeta, On Tue, 28 Nov 2017, at 17:13:34 [GMT +0100] (which was 17:13 where I live) Gwen wrote: > the Ritlabs Mantis Bugtracker is broken. Fixed now. Thanks. -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 8.0.14.1 (ALPHA) (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 16299 ) pgpU5qrolfTLu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.0.14.1
Hello Viktor, Thursday, November 30, 2017, 12:55:05 PM, you wrote: > The license validity now shown in English in my Czech-localized TB! - did > the language item change? Or was it always English...which wasn't my > impression? These are volunteers who translate language textual files from English to other languages on LGPL (Lesser GNU General Public Licence) bases. As about Czech language, it is Marek Mikus who last time has made translations in 2015. We keep the files at www.assembla.com/spaces/lng , they are accessible via SVN (Subversion) protocol. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Title: Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore. Dimitar, I have exactly the same. regards Michal Thursday, November 30, 2017, 3:39:45 PM, you wrote: > On Thursday, November 30, 2017, 2:09:36 PM, you wrote: >> 11/30/2017 6:57 AM >> Hi Viktor, >> On 11/30/2017 Viktor Kabelac wrote: VK>>> Pressing Enter always created a new tab - correct? >> Correct VK>>> Could it be that in the earlier versions, you could enter the quick VK>>> search text and have the list filtered without pressing Enter (which VK>>> would have created the tab before, too)? >> Yup. This is exactly how it works here right now. VK>>> I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: VK>>> - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say "viktor". VK>>> - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" VK>>> - select the search text, delete it, press Enter VK>>> - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" = Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? >> Why do you press Enter? Deleting the text in Quick Search returns the >> message list back to the previous state before doing a Quick Search. >> There is no need for using the Enter key unless you wish to create a Tab >> for the search criteria. For me it is brilliant! > Dear Paul, > Not for me - it does not work like that, using 8.0.14.1 alpha. > Entering text in the quick search field jumps to the next fitting > message (not the first), but does not filter the list. Clearing the > quick search text does not jump back, but changing the text does jump > further down the list to the next fitting message. Hitting ESC first > hides the quick search box and a second ESC hit resets the message > list, but does not close any tab. > Am I missing a setting here? > Best regards, > Dimitar mailto:dito...@gmail.com > > Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.0.14 MSI files / EWS support
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, November 29, 2017, 6:49:38 AM, you wrote: > 8.0.14 has been released without the EWS DLL. I promise that this will > cause unhappy customers, and complaints all over. After I downloaded > the DLL, EWS worked as usual, I didn't even need to restart TB!. > So I wonder what purpose it serves to not include it. We were not happy with the quality of it and were not inclined to spend resources on improving it, so we have decided to focus on IMAP instead which has room for improvement. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Bugtracker broken
Hello Gwen, Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 6:13:34 PM, you wrote: > the Ritlabs Mantis Bugtracker is broken. Thank you for letting me know, we have restored old behaviour. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
On Thursday, November 30, 2017, 2:09:36 PM, you wrote: > 11/30/2017 6:57 AM > Hi Viktor, > On 11/30/2017 Viktor Kabelac wrote: VK>> Pressing Enter always created a new tab - correct? > Correct VK>> Could it be that in the earlier versions, you could enter the quick VK>> search text and have the list filtered without pressing Enter (which VK>> would have created the tab before, too)? > Yup. This is exactly how it works here right now. VK>> I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: VK>> - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say "viktor". VK>> - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" VK>> - select the search text, delete it, press Enter VK>> - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" =>>> Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? > Why do you press Enter? Deleting the text in Quick Search returns the > message list back to the previous state before doing a Quick Search. > There is no need for using the Enter key unless you wish to create a Tab > for the search criteria. For me it is brilliant! Dear Paul, Not for me - it does not work like that, using 8.0.14.1 alpha. Entering text in the quick search field jumps to the next fitting message (not the first), but does not filter the list. Clearing the quick search text does not jump back, but changing the text does jump further down the list to the next fitting message. Hitting ESC first hides the quick search box and a second ESC hit resets the message list, but does not close any tab. Am I missing a setting here? Best regards, Dimitar mailto:dito...@gmail.com Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Hi Paul, Thursday, November 30, 2017, 1:16:16 PM, you wrote: VK>> Something tells me that the empty search term shouldn't be considered when VK>> entered in the search field and the whole addition not done. Or am I VK>> missing the point in searching for an empty string? > Refrain from pressing Enter. Quick Search is always "live". Pressing > Enter sets the tab to receive additional search criteria Thanks for your hints! I'm still not not sure though. My x32 8.0.14.1 doesn't filter the list when i type in a search term - it merely jumps to the first message fitting that filter. When I type in "noord", it jumps to the first message from you, if already on such one, nothing visible happens. This seems like a change to the behavior as I knew it. As for the empty search term: regardless on whether I use Enter right or not - do you see sense in adding an empty search term to the list to create "viktor +" or "viktor+ +Christmas"? -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
11/30/2017 7:12 AM Hi Viktor, On 11/30/2017 Viktor Kabelac wrote: VK> Something tells me that the empty search term shouldn't be considered when VK> entered in the search field and the whole addition not done. Or am I VK> missing the point in searching for an empty string? Refrain from pressing Enter. Quick Search is always "live". Pressing Enter sets the tab to receive additional search criteria - -- Paul 32bit TB 8.0.14 Windows 7 Pro 7600 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
11/30/2017 6:57 AM Hi Viktor, On 11/30/2017 Viktor Kabelac wrote: VK> Pressing Enter always created a new tab - correct? Correct VK> Could it be that in the earlier versions, you could enter the quick VK> search text and have the list filtered without pressing Enter (which VK> would have created the tab before, too)? Yup. This is exactly how it works here right now. VK> I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: VK> - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say "viktor". VK> - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" VK> - select the search text, delete it, press Enter VK> - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" =>> Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? Why do you press Enter? Deleting the text in Quick Search returns the message list back to the previous state before doing a Quick Search. There is no need for using the Enter key unless you wish to create a Tab for the search criteria. For me it is brilliant! - -- Paul 32bit TB 8.0.14 Windows 7 Pro 7600 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Servus Lüko, Thursday, November 30, 2017, 12:42:23 PM, you wrote: am Donnerstag, 30. November 2017 um 11:53 schrieben Sie: > I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: > - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say > "viktor". > - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" > - select the search text, delete it, press Enter > - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" =>> Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? > By this way you can refine your search. > After receiving this mail, you could enter in the search filed "Willms" and > should get a new tab with the mails found with "willms" among the files which > were previously selected with "Viktor" So that "+" is actually the separator of the previous search term and the new _empty_ one? I see what you mean, that sincerely didn't occur to me. While I would probably understand like this for "viktor + Christmas" - does it make the same amount of sense when the other search term is empty? Just tested now - you are right: I could create a tab saying "viktor+ +16". Something tells me that the empty search term shouldn't be considered when entered in the search field and the whole addition not done. Or am I missing the point in searching for an empty string? -- Cheers, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Guten Tag Viktor Kabelac, am Donnerstag, 30. November 2017 um 11:53 schrieben Sie: > I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: > - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say > "viktor". > - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" > - select the search text, delete it, press Enter > - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" =>> Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? By this way you can refine your search. After receiving this mail, you could enter in the search filed "Willms" and should get a new tab with the mails found with "willms" among the files which were previously selected with "Viktor" -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
[In Reply to: »Michał Lewiński« · 2017-11-30 · 11:01 h (CET)]
Moin, Michał et al.!
>>> But I do not use Message List Tabs¹ and I do not plan to use these.
>> How else can you see the various selections and chose between them?
> I have similar problem, I use quick search just to find email I need
> in this time, not to have permanent selection. In previous versions
> I could just type the word I was looking for, and after that delete
> the word, push enter and my list was full again.
Yep, that`s the point!
Btw: Enable Message List Tabs and then …
- Quick Search “sample” → [Enter] → Only mails containing “sample“ are
displayed in message list (tab {sample}).
- Quick Search cleared → [Enter] → New tab {sample+} is created.
> Now it is not working and extra combination CTRL + = is needed to
> reset filters. It not could be as it was before?
I created a shortcut [Esc] to reset the Quick Search:
→ Quick Search cleared → [Esc] → *All* mails are displayed again. ツ
Cheers!
VA
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Re: 8.0.14.1
Hello Maxim, On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, at 22:34:24 [GMT +0200] (which was 21:34 where I live) Maxim wrote: Broken UI elements for conditions/blocks in Sorting Office Confirm for: Voyager 7.4.4.1 The Bat! 8.0.14 and 8.0.14.1 See https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1355 -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 8.0.14.1 (ALPHA) (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 16299 ) pgpKqww4DO1BI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.0.14.1
Hello Maxim, Wednesday, November 29, 2017, 9:34:24 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 8.0.14.1 (ALPHA) is available at > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb80141-32.rar Running here, thank you! The license validity now shown in English in my Czech-localized TB! - did the language item change? Or was it always English...which wasn't my impression? -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Hello Michał, Thursday, November 30, 2017, 11:01:32 AM, you wrote: >>> I think it would be confusing when the tab says "sample" but >>> actually does not show a selection, but *ALL* >> But I do not use Message List Tabs¹ and I do not plan to use these. > How else can you see the various selections and chose between them? > I have similar problem, I use quick search just to find email I need in > this time, not to have permanent selection. In previous versions I could > just type the word I was looking for, and after that delete the word, > push enter and my list was full again. Now it is not working and extra > combination CTRL + = is needed to reset filters. It not could be as it was > before? To my knowledge, you can also press Esc once or twice to get rid of the tab you just activated, but yes, I also think the behavior now feels more tab-centric, less suited for those who prefer ad-hoc searches. Pressing Enter always created a new tab - correct? Could it be that in the earlier versions, you could enter the quick search text and have the list filtered without pressing Enter (which would have created the tab before, too)? I also see another behavior I'm not sure I saw before: - enter the name of one of us in the mailing list's message list, say "viktor". - pres enter, a tab will be created with the text "viktor" - select the search text, delete it, press Enter - *another tab* will be created sporting "viktor +" => Can anyone reproduce and possibly explain this? -- Best regards, Viktor Kabelacmailto:tbbeta-l...@kabelac.cz Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore.
Title: Re: Quick Search can not be reset anymore. I have similar problem, I use quick search just to find email I need in this time, not to have permanent selection. In previous versions I could just type the word I was looking for, and after that delete the word, push enter and my list was full again. Now it is not working and extra combination CTRL + = is needed to reset filters. It not could be as it was before? regards Michal Thursday, November 30, 2017, 6:30:58 AM, you wrote: Guten Tag Volker Ahrendt, am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017 um 12:49 schrieben Sie: >>> - Quick Search cleared → [Enter] → Still only mails containing >>> “sample“ are displayed in message list. >> If I want to return to showing *ALL* mails, I simply close the tab >> showing the seach word "sample", by clicking on the x. Then I'm >> back. >> I think it would be confusing when the tab says "sample" but >> actually does not show a selection, but *ALL* > But I do not use Message List Tabs¹ and I do not plan to use these. How else can you see the various selections and chose between them? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de Current beta is 8.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
